Differences between Christians and Jehovah's witness.

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TheLearner

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There are many quotes by early church fathers supporting the Trinity and Deity of Christ. The argument is simple. They were taught by the Apostles. There is really one you can document as being taught by John.
 

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https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/the-watchtowers-flickering-light
This watchtower justification for changing their doctrines, don't laugh too hard: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1995363
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w95 5/15 pp. 10-15
Flashes of Light in Apostolic Times
“Light itself has flashed up for the righteous one, and rejoicing even for the ones upright in heart.”—PSALM 97:11.
1. How do Jehovah’s Witnesses today resemble the early Christians?
HOW much we, as true Christians, appreciate the words of Psalm 97:11! ‘Light has flashed up’ for us repeatedly. Indeed, some of us have seen Jehovah’s flashing illumination for decades. All of this reminds us of Proverbs 4:18, which reads: “The path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established.” In our appreciation for the Scriptures instead of tradition, we Witnesses of Jehovah resemble the early Christians. Their attitude can be clearly seen from the historical books of the Christian Greek Scriptures and from its letters, written under divine inspiration.
2. What were among the first flashes of light that Jesus’ followers received?
2 Among the first flashes of light the early followers of Jesus Christ received were those having to do with the Messiah. Andrew told his brother Simon Peter: “We have found the Messiah.” (John 1:41) Some time later, the Father in heaven enabled the apostle Peter to testify to that effect when he said to Jesus Christ: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”—Matthew 16:16, 17; John 6:68, 69.


https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1995363
 

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https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/the-watchtowers-flickering-light
This watchtower justification for changing their doctrines, don't laugh too hard: https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1995363
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w95 5/15 pp. 10-15
Flashes of Light in Apostolic Times
“Light itself has flashed up for the righteous one, and rejoicing even for the ones upright in heart.”—PSALM 97:11.
1. How do Jehovah’s Witnesses today resemble the early Christians?
HOW much we, as true Christians, appreciate the words of Psalm 97:11! ‘Light has flashed up’ for us repeatedly. Indeed, some of us have seen Jehovah’s flashing illumination for decades. All of this reminds us of Proverbs 4:18, which reads: “The path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established.” In our appreciation for the Scriptures instead of tradition, we Witnesses of Jehovah resemble the early Christians. Their attitude can be clearly seen from the historical books of the Christian Greek Scriptures and from its letters, written under divine inspiration.
2. What were among the first flashes of light that Jesus’ followers received?
2 Among the first flashes of light the early followers of Jesus Christ received were those having to do with the Messiah. Andrew told his brother Simon Peter: “We have found the Messiah.” (John 1:41) Some time later, the Father in heaven enabled the apostle Peter to testify to that effect when he said to Jesus Christ: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”—Matthew 16:16, 17; John 6:68, 69.


https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1995363
 

TheLearner

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Psalm 97:11
Common English Bible
11 Light is planted like seed for the righteous person;
joy too for those whose heart is right.

Their NWT mistranslation which was revised in 2013???

11 Light has flashed up for the righteous

And rejoicing for those upright in heart

Proverbs 4:18
Common English Bible
18 The way of the righteous is like morning light
that gets brighter and brighter till it is full day.


Their translation has nothing to do with chaging doctrine.

Proverbs 4:18
New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures (Study Edition)



18 But the path of the righteous is like the bright morning light
That grows brighter and brighter until full daylight
 

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Jehovah Whitnesses DO NOT Observe Holidays... because today is my Birthday or any other at least give myself a pat on the back day, ok I Will empty all of those noodles(do not turn the water on hot(pot of water with noodles on stove burner.)and then forget about it... noodles are all sticky and the water even got burnt.
Water won't burn if you turn down the heat.
 

TheLearner

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JW "new light" immediately reversed/contradicted

September 2022 Study Watchtower - par. 14 p. 18 - "After all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world. The unrighteous must have practiced these vile things before their death."

This statement reverses a decades old 'truth' – based on a literal interpretation of Romans 6:7 – which is false and should also have been reversed.

However, four paragraphs later, the Writing Committee reversed the reversal:

September 2022 Study Watchtower, p. 19, par. 18 - “Based on what “deeds” will resurrected ones be judged? Will it be the deeds they practiced before they died? No! Remember, they were acquitted of their previous sins when they died. Here, then, “their deeds” cannot be deeds from their former life. Rather, these must refer to their deeds.....in the new world."

In other words, evil deeds carried out by people after they are resurrected.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/to...w-new-light-immediately-reversed-contradicted

I wonder if those publications are online to check the quotes.
 

TheLearner

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Primary source to check quotes:

12 Who will teach the unrighteous? The great crowd and the resurrected righteous ones. In order for the unrighteous to have their names written in the book of life, they will need to develop a relationship with Jehovah and dedicate themselves to him. The progress of all these unrighteous ones will be followed with great interest by Jesus Christ and his fellow judges. (Rev. 20:4) Any who refuse to respond favorably to such help will be removed—even though they may be 100 years of age. (Isa. 65:20) Jehovah and Jesus can read hearts and will see to it that no one will be allowed to cause any ruin in the new world.—Isa. 11:9; 60:18; 65:25; John 2:25.

14 In the past, we understood Jesus’ words to refer to the deeds the resurrected ones will practice after their resurrection; that is, some will come to life and practice good things while others will come to life and practice vile things. However, note that Jesus does not say that those who have just come out of the memorial tombs will do good things or will practice vile things. He uses the past tense. He speaks of those who “did good things” and those who “practiced vile things.” This indicates that these actions took place before their death. That makes sense, does it not? After all, no one will be allowed to practice vile things in the new world. The unrighteous must have practiced these vile things before their death. How, then, are we to understand Jesus’ words about “a resurrection of life” and “a resurrection of judgment”?
https://www.jw.org/en/library/magaz...tember-2022/Is-Your-Name-in-the-Book-of-Life/

18 Based on what “deeds” will resurrected ones be judged? Will it be the deeds they practiced before they died? No! Remember, they were acquitted of their previous sins when they died. Here, then, “their deeds” cannot be deeds from their former life. Rather, these must refer to their deeds in response to their training in the new world. Even such faithful men as Noah, Samuel, David, and Daniel will have to learn about Jesus Christ and exercise faith in his sacrifice. How much more so will the unrighteous!

https://www.jw.org/en/library/magaz...tember-2022/Is-Your-Name-in-the-Book-of-Life/

Always best to check sources.
 

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TheLearner

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Wow, that's a lot of info!
You did your homework.
🙂👍

Do you have a lot of JWs in your area?
Only my pet one in Island Lake. Seriously, one Holloween, I wanted people to walk on one side of the road because we have no street lights. Under the few lights I posted Pet Lost signs of an Aligator picture. The next summer My family was the only ones who went into the lake. No one asked me about my signs. DNR came ove one day to ask questions. Over coffee, I explained it was a Holloween prank. So, with them I help put up signs that it was safe to go into the water, it was a Holloween prank. But, it was not told to the general public, who did not see the signs until five years later.
 

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Only my pet one in Island Lake. Seriously, one Holloween, I wanted people to walk on one side of the road because we have no street lights. Under the few lights I posted Pet Lost signs of an Aligator picture. The next summer My family was the only ones who went into the lake. No one asked me about my signs. DNR came ove one day to ask questions. Over coffee, I explained it was a Holloween prank. So, with them I help put up signs that it was safe to go into the water, it was a Holloween prank. But, it was not told to the general public, who did not see the signs until five years later.
The auto "correct" likes to change everything I write. You must've read my first post before I went back to change the auto change.
I wrote JWs and it put Jaws. 😄

That's OK. That's a funny prank!
You wouldn't believe what pets I've had.
Alligators are what I call modern dinosaurs. They never went extinct like most of the great reptiles. They are definitely Jaws.
Check this one out, getting his picture taken with this gal.