Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

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Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine if it is considered safe and effective?

  • Yes

    Votes: 35 21.7%
  • Never

    Votes: 98 60.9%
  • I will wait a year or more to see what happens with people who take it.

    Votes: 28 17.4%

  • Total voters
    161

TruthSeekerJG

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Very important interview. Famines to come this fall possibly because of the supply chain interruption caused by this scamdemic. Very real folks! Jesus warned us.

Even if we say we saved lives, which isn’t true…more lives are in jeopardy because of the supply chain interruptions caused by stopping our economy for lockdowns.

Here’s the link of the interview between Jordan Peterson and Michael Yon (who travels the world following these trends, literally the frontlines):


Also wouldn’t be surprised if they came up with the beast system solution. Hegelian dialectic (problem, reaction and solution)
 
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That is what the apostle refers to about despising your brother.

He needs to be warned that not only is he violating the rules of this forum but he is in danger of very serious judgement from the Lord.
Agree. He states he does not consider us to be his brothers or sisters. Well I know I am a believer and I know you are and many others here who did not offer an arm to be experimented on. We are one in Christ; not one in everything we think, do or how we conduct ourselves on a daily basis.

I see people like that turning believers in when the time comes. Life must be cheap to some.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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We may be witnessing the neurological damage from the jab.
Really wondering because I’ve been trying to literally show my friends here at home that received it….no response. Probably thinking I’m crazy from all the indoctrination they have taken in from the tube.
 
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Many people won't believe the vaccine is a horror show until it happens to them or a loved one. Even then some refuse to admit the truth.
So sorry for this young lady, but at least she doesn't deny the truth:

It's heartbreaking. You know, the interesting thing, at least to me, is that I never even prayed about whether or not to get jabbed. I just heard about it and having already experienced some bad effects from another vacc (an actual vacc and not experimental) I decided there was no way I was going to get that who knows what put into my already hurting system.

I had all the vaccines when I was a kid and no problems. But I might just be becoming anti-vacc and not shy about it either. It's not my choice for others, but my choice is to say you have a choice, but don't tell me what I should do.

Our neighbors (older) both were jabbed. The husband did not want to be but his wife nagged him until he did. then the booster of course and both have now had covid and he got it twice...but the variant. I'm concerned it might not end well. He knows better, but the nagging......:cautious: Of course they also believe that we almost lost the democracy on Jan 6th of 2020, so....
 

PennEd

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It's heartbreaking. You know, the interesting thing, at least to me, is that I never even prayed about whether or not to get jabbed. I just heard about it and having already experienced some bad effects from another vacc (an actual vacc and not experimental) I decided there was no way I was going to get that who knows what put into my already hurting system.

I had all the vaccines when I was a kid and no problems. But I might just be becoming anti-vacc and not shy about it either. It's not my choice for others, but my choice is to say you have a choice, but don't tell me what I should do.

Our neighbors (older) both were jabbed. The husband did not want to be but his wife nagged him until he did. then the booster of course and both have now had covid and he got it twice...but the variant. I'm concerned it might not end well. He knows better, but the nagging......:cautious: Of course they also believe that we almost lost the democracy on Jan 6th of 2020, so....
This is pretty much exactly my situation.

I was NEVER anti vax until the Covid “vaccine”.

I looked at those who were as a little cooky.

But now I am utterly convinced just about all of them are bad for you.

This documentary from yrs ago was eye opening and disturbing:

https://rumble.com/vxt4ol-vaxxed-do...lationship-between-early-combination-vac.html
 

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I thought it was pretty much acknowledged that the tremendous increase in autism was from the mercury in the vaccines and they quietly removed it without owning up.
 

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I thought it was pretty much acknowledged that the tremendous increase in autism was from the mercury in the vaccines and they quietly removed it without owning up.
You know a lot about these things.
The manufacturers were getting so much flack and opt outs that they remove the Thymerisol/ Mercury from the ingredients list.
They did not remove the use of Mercury in the vaccines, just the listing enclosures.
The only ones that are supposed to be preservative free are the single dose vials that are special order only. I personally wouldn't trust pharma companies to be honest about those either.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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I do a lot of analysis, and I make value judgements based on logic and reason. I am chilled.

It's true, I've thrown a few Liverpool kisses around in my posts to try and jolt reason into your hard heads, but that's obviously bounced off. But I'm not continuing my discourse with you to try and change your mind, but in hope that those viewing this discussion might see an alternative to the extreme and illogical view you and your colleagues are propagating.
So now your presenting an alternative view? It’s amazing how one counterfeits.

In what way is it illogical? I’d like a reasonable opinion.
 

TruthSeekerJG

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This is pretty much exactly my situation.

I was NEVER anti vax until the Covid “vaccine”.

I looked at those who were as a little cooky.

But now I am utterly convinced just about all of them are bad for you.

This documentary from yrs ago was eye opening and disturbing:

https://rumble.com/vxt4ol-vaxxed-do...lationship-between-early-combination-vac.html
This blows my mind. There's a reason why my Mom didn't want me to take vaccines growing up. Unfortunately my Dad secretly took me to get mine because he was deceived. Thankfully he came to understand. A lot of us were deceived.
 
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Reposting my reply above for two reasons. 1] I previewed before posting and it was a properly formed post. I've noticed some [OSTs end up with errors once committed to post. Sometimes my post publishes twice. No idea what's going on.

And 2] I just can't let what was written without typos stand. Even after the edit window closed. The above post is aggravating to read as is.



Chiming in on my part here. I'm not against vaccines.

I am against the gene altering jab that's being promoted by its makers and colluding politicians as a safeguard against COVID-19.

Joe Biden is in my view one of the most outstanding cautionary tales for the C19 anti-''vax'' campaign.

He's now suffering COVID-19 for a fourth time. He's vaccinated and has all his boosters. Yet he repeatedly comes down with COVID-19.

The proponents of the jab diminish the suffering families have gone through for having received the shot and even boosters.

A TV judge, when all this first happened lost a family member to COVID-19. An opportunist funeral director charged her over 20 thousand dollars for a coffin to be specially sealed against the virus.

Recently,though he later rescinded his order , a Chicago judge, James Shapiro, barred a divorced mother from visiting her son because she wasn't ''vaccinated''.
He then had the nerve to ask members of the courtroom gallery if they were vaccinated.

I think you're wise to exercise caution.

Years ago a huge number of people were dying after getting the flu shot. Long before COVID.

Turns out the vaccine they thought was a single flu strain contained multiple strains. That flu strain,swine flu and avian flu.

Those who died were in the at risk category for the simple flu. Which is why they thought they'd safeguard their health with a flu shot.

The reason for that push of an unconscionable cocktail into their bloodstream?

Money! Profit and loss balance sheets!

The Swine and Avian flu vaccines were near their expiration date. To avoid the $loss it was decided to add them to the current vaccine.

Always think before committing the rest of your life to something being injected into your bloodstream.

Because once it's in there there is no going back.



God protect us.🕊️😔

















 

Angela53510

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How did he know his friends did not take the vaccine? It's not like if they took it just before they died, they would be able to tell him. Look at how doctors, government and the media today are trying desperately to hide all the vaxx-deaths. And that is with the internet. Imagine how easy it would be for them to hide the deaths without.

Most vaccines (probably all) don't work. Hence anti-vaxxers. The milk maids still got "cow pox". How did they know it was "cow pox" and not "small pox"? Did you know they "cured" polio by renaming it something else? Just like they got rid of influenza for a year by renaming it covid. Now the flu has come back, given they aren't calling every case "covid".


The polio vaccine causes polio. Even the lamestream news now admits it, to try to regain some of their credibility.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/polio-cases-now-caused-vaccine-wild-virus-67287290

You claim that you weren't harmed. Come back and tell me that in 2 years, or 3. If you're able to tell me you weren't harmed in 3 years, I'll admit there's a good chance you were right.


Vaccines are evil. They try to improve on God's creation. Who is wiser - God, or man? By their very intent, vaccines are evil. MRNA ones moreso, as they change the very genetic nature of God's creation. Ordinary vaccines only poison his creation.

Good that you learned not to use experimental medicines. I thought most of us learned that lesson after the Nuremberg trials. Hopefully, you will learn that the ordinary poisons are also causing more harm than good.
The reason I know that my Grandfather's friends did not get a vaccine for the Spanish flu, was because they lived in a small village in Galacia (Western Ukraine) during WWI. When WWI was over, Russia moved into Ukraine and took it over. No opportunity to get a vax ever. You were tough and lived, or soft and died.

As for the difference between Small Pox and Cow Pox, It's probably like the difference between cow pox and chicken pox! Different symptoms. The milk maids across Europe never died. Almost everyone who got small pox died. So another way to tell the difference.

I've had pneumonia over and over since I was a small baby. Some winters I would get it it 7 or 8 times. Since I started on the pneumococcus vaccine, I only had it once in 7 years- and that was COVID pneumonia, which the pneumococcus would not stop. I have not had Strep A or B or Staph A or B since I started on the pneumococcus vaccine in 2015. My husband, with no spleen, almost died several times from Staph & Strep infections. He started taking pneumococcus in the 90's, he was able to stop penicillin prophylactics daily. He didn't get sick till 2008, when he almost died of a staph infection. That's because he didn't get his 5 year vax in Alberta, for over 9 years. The first thing we did when we moved back to BC was he got the pneumococcus vaccine, he's been 7 years without a staph or strep infection landing him in the ICU. So, the vax definitely works, despite your mean mouth!

Your theological understanding about God is so limited. We can never improve upon God. But we can improve on this evil, sick, sin world that we got after Adam and Eve sinned, and brought sickness and death into the world. I have Rheumatoid Arthritis and 3 other autoimmune disease. RA can easily be seen in fossils of men. Today, we still have these painful and deforming diseases. The difference is we have meds that can help us by stopping the immmune system from attacking the body. I am on chemo drugs which have helped me, except when they failed. Much better life than even 50 years ago. I had a cousin who got Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis. Her only help was to leave cold Alberta winters for Arizona. It is horrible what this disease did to her and her grandmother, before the strong biologics came out.

God gave men intelligence to use to better ourselves, because we live in a fallen world. Medicine has made huge strides in many areas. Not perfect, but better for me than being stuck in bed in agony, instead of riding my bicycle, playing my flute, and raising my children. I praise God that he did give us the intelligence to find both medicines and vaccines to help our lives be better. I don't think I will be affected by the vaxes. The biologics I take actually killed the mRNA vaccines. Only 33% efficacy of the biologic, Rituximab, that I am on now! I know the vaxes did not affect me after the shots, and I don't believe they will in 2 or 3 years. My
Immune system is very different from a normal one.

I hope you find out that we live in a fallen world, like the Bible described in Genesis 3. While God is perfect, we are not! These are fundamentals of the Christian faith. Perhaps read your Bible daily. 3 chapters of the OT daily and 1 of the NT and you will get through the Bible in a year! I know you can do it!
 

iamsoandso

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The reason I know that my Grandfather's friends did not get a vaccine for the Spanish flu, was because they lived in a small village in Galacia (Western Ukraine) during WWI. When WWI was over, Russia moved into Ukraine and took it over. No opportunity to get a vax ever. You were tough and lived, or soft and died.

As for the difference between Small Pox and Cow Pox, It's probably like the difference between cow pox and chicken pox! Different symptoms. The milk maids across Europe never died. Almost everyone who got small pox died. So another way to tell the difference.

I've had pneumonia over and over since I was a small baby. Some winters I would get it it 7 or 8 times. Since I started on the pneumococcus vaccine, I only had it once in 7 years- and that was COVID pneumonia, which the pneumococcus would not stop. I have not had Strep A or B or Staph A or B since I started on the pneumococcus vaccine in 2015. My husband, with no spleen, almost died several times from Staph & Strep infections. He started taking pneumococcus in the 90's, he was able to stop penicillin prophylactics daily. He didn't get sick till 2008, when he almost died of a staph infection. That's because he didn't get his 5 year vax in Alberta, for over 9 years. The first thing we did when we moved back to BC was he got the pneumococcus vaccine, he's been 7 years without a staph or strep infection landing him in the ICU. So, the vax definitely works, despite your mean mouth!

Your theological understanding about God is so limited. We can never improve upon God. But we can improve on this evil, sick, sin world that we got after Adam and Eve sinned, and brought sickness and death into the world. I have Rheumatoid Arthritis and 3 other autoimmune disease. RA can easily be seen in fossils of men. Today, we still have these painful and deforming diseases. The difference is we have meds that can help us by stopping the immmune system from attacking the body. I am on chemo drugs which have helped me, except when they failed. Much better life than even 50 years ago. I had a cousin who got Juvenile Rheumatoid Arthritis. Her only help was to leave cold Alberta winters for Arizona. It is horrible what this disease did to her and her grandmother, before the strong biologics came out.

God gave men intelligence to use to better ourselves, because we live in a fallen world. Medicine has made huge strides in many areas. Not perfect, but better for me than being stuck in bed in agony, instead of riding my bicycle, playing my flute, and raising my children. I praise God that he did give us the intelligence to find both medicines and vaccines to help our lives be better. I don't think I will be affected by the vaxes. The biologics I take actually killed the mRNA vaccines. Only 33% efficacy of the biologic, Rituximab, that I am on now! I know the vaxes did not affect me after the shots, and I don't believe they will in 2 or 3 years. My
Immune system is very different from a normal one.

I hope you find out that we live in a fallen world, like the Bible described in Genesis 3. While God is perfect, we are not! These are fundamentals of the Christian faith. Perhaps read your Bible daily. 3 chapters of the OT daily and 1 of the NT and you will get through the Bible in a year! I know you can do it!

There wasn't any vaccine until right before ww2 I thought so how could anyone on the planet have taken it? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza_vaccine
 

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HealthAndHappiness

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Fake news. Poisoned vaccines have been around since at least the 1800s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccination_Act
Correct.
Even the infamous Polio "vaccine" that everyone mistakenly give credit to for eliminating the disease.

Check this out Moses:
Post far and wide. This contains interviews of those villains that spread death to millions of trusting souls.

 

HealthAndHappiness

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I admit I should have narrowed it down to the Flu(influenza) vaccine being the vaccine that did not exist until ww2 but in my defense I thought everyone would realize I was referring to the one they were discussing...
It was used to cause one of my family members sudden last stage dementia that tortured her for a couple years until she died.
Her husband got the flu from the vaccine and it never relented for over a year until it killed him. You know how bad you feel with the flu for a day or two. Now think about being sick for over a year from it. All the while the evil doctors and nurses tell you that can't happen and offer absolutely no help. Can you image having the flu for a year?
 

iamsoandso

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It was used to cause one of my family members sudden last stage dementia that tortured her for a couple years until she died.
Her husband got the flu from the vaccine and it never relented for over a year until it killed him. You know how bad you feel with the flu for a day or two. Now think about being sick for over a year from it. All the while the evil doctors and nurses tell you that can't happen and offer absolutely no help. Can you image having the flu for a year?

Maybe I should have also stated that I was not defending or endorsing the Flu(influenza) vaccine but instead had noticed that no one could have possibly taken it before it was invented?