“OBEDIENCE WAS REQUIRED TO KEEP POSSESSION OF THE PROMISED LAND IN CANAAN! ETERNAL SALVATION WAS NOT BASED ON WORKS”
“Or
despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God
leadeth thee to repentance?
But after thy hardness and
impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; Who will render to every man according to his deeds: to them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
but
unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
but
glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the
Jew first, and also to the
Gentile: for there is no respect of persons with God.”
Romans 2:4-11 KJV
how can you guys insist there’s some form of salvstion apart from wha ta always been written ? It’s always been there
If we don’t repent and start obeying thy gospel we’re in this group
unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
“indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; “
hat includes every living soul and it’s Paul writing it to the church lol how can you gracera come to a Bible discussion forum with the doctrine of ignoring the Bible and saying grace ?
This is the hypergrace doctrines and how it operates
“Let us hear
the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
For
God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.”
Ecclesiastes 12:13-14 KJV
The hypergracers “ non thy ya t
Not true our works don’t apply we’re already forgiven we’ll never be judged by our own works well
Never receive Wes try and I dig action if we don’t repent and obey like Paul says in Roman’s
no Paul said “grace grace your saved “
Paul writes tonthe church who thinks that
“For
we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.”
2 Corinthians 5:10-11 KJV
the hyoergracer “ no. I well never be judged by our works good and evil and no if our works are evil we’re saved still well Never receive jidgement and wrath no matter what we do our works mean nothing we’re already saved grace grace
Paul writes tonthe church
indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; “
That doesn’t apply to me says the hyoergracer my works will never matter I’ll never have to answer for my deeds
I’ve already inherited salvstion and the kingdom grace grace
Paul writes to the church who thinks that
“Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children; and walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour. But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Be not ye therefore partakers with them.”
Ephesians 5:1-7
but the hypergrace doctrine just says grace grace none of that applies nothing that’s really there in Paul’s writings is for us lol just the word grace and of course grace means “ I never have to repent and obey God now I have faith “
it would be comical if it wasn’t much of a blindfold
no matter how much we quote this verse
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast.”
Ephesians 2:8-9
it doesn’t change what’s in the same letters it all goes together without Jesus giving his life we couldn’t have been saved by any work that’s how grace saves us he makes it possible for us to accept hi gospel and be saved by his promises within it
One day every Christian will have to newer for thier own works whether good or bad if we are found as disobedient and contentious against his word , we’re going to receive whatnot says indignation and wrath , we can choose to repent d start learning to walk after the gospel d have our sins remitted but grace doesn’t change what happens to evil and what happens to good
grace doesn’t save satans children who chose to follow his Willit saves Gods children who are born believing they gospel and become disciples of Jesus trusting him as our lord and savior
what do you guys do just out of curiosity whe. You cross the pages of the Bible and see it repeated that we have to repent and can’t keep serving sin and expect the reward of faith ? Do you just say grace erases those verses or I can’t grasp how this grace term has convinced so many that Gods eternal and everlasting and unchanging word isnt for them or doesn’t apply to them ?
every soul of man covers us all and it seems to plainly say “ your going to face e eternal judgement of Christ according to what you have done , those who seek immortality d do good will receive glory and honor and eternal life
“Who will render to every man according to his deeds: to them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: “
Those who contend and revel and refuse to repent and obey they will receive what Paul is saying to the church
unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
how come grace has to eliminate the rest of what Paul wrote in the same epistles in order to come to the conclusion our works have nothing to do with salvstion ? How do you reconcile it all just say grace and forget the word ? And say I’m saved we’re all saved grace grace ?
