Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine

[wolfwint]

I never said it was about people in Germany. It's about people everywhere suffering the consequences of receiving the gene altering injection.

March 2022
Pfizer mRNA vaccine goes into liver and changes into DNA, Swedish study finds

But i Was talking about the numbers in germany and you told me there is an answer in this thread.

Because they’re lying about the numbers world wide. This is a world wide agenda. What about the countries that did just fine without enforcing the pandemic? I also wouldn’t trust the politicians in Germany as well. They are in cahoots with each other. Merkel? 👎🏼

The credit card system is apart of it as well. Except they are developing subcutaneous microchips where we can pay hands free. Have you researched that? Also, hard currency is eroding away to the point of all digital. Think we’ll have control when everything will be all digital?

First you told me the answer of my question is already given in this thread.
But you cant say mw where.
And you gave me the response all are lying because its a World wide agenda.
In germany the politcans have nothing to do with the numbers of Covid. The numbers are open to see. Why every hospital and involved medical should lie?
You believe also certain sources, how you will know that they are not payed for or give this Informations for selfinterest?

So long you cant give me an serious proof that more people died because of the vaccine and not about the virus. I believe the sources I have, instead of certain conspiracy theories.

The thing i focus in this Christian Chat is that if someone has an different view

The content of what you post should be evidence enough that judgment and neurological damage can be a result.

Thanks, you are to nice!

 

[TruthSeekerJG]

But i Was talking about the numbers in germany and you told me there is an answer in this thread.

First you told me the answer of my question is already given in this thread.
But you cant say mw where.
And you gave me the response all are lying because its a World wide agenda.
In germany the politcans have nothing to do with the numbers of Covid. The numbers are open to see. Why every hospital and involved medical should lie?

I disagree. Simply because if you follow the money…then you would see that many politians are in the back pockets of big pharma. They pay off lobbyists in order to implement more corrupt legislation to push this pseudo science. Simply because there hasn’t been long term clinical trials in order to see long term outcome. Meaning do we die in 5-10 years from taking a foreign man-made substance.

Why should they lie? Because there’s incentives. You know how much money the medical establishment made by diagnosing and treating COVID? Thousands! Also, if you go against the mains stream mindset, then there’s a possibility they will lose their job. Which I know for a fact because my Moms friends Daughter got fired because she didn’t comply to the lies.

 

[Moses_Young]

You don't accept the proof already provided in this thread. You don't commit to your own search to find the data that contradicts your assertion in favor of the ''vaccine''.

Get the shot, see what happens.

Remember one fact though. When a chemical goes into your bloodstream you will never be the same again.
Your immune system reacts immediately. Your genetics are impacted anytime you get a shot.

No, I'm not going to show proof of that fact either. You demonstrate those aren't your priority. Rather,you appear to like to stoke controversy.
That's not a good look.

I said the same thing to another guy on this site when the vaxx first started rolling out. I don't see him anymore. Perhaps he died. But some people have gotta learn from their own folly.

 

[ZNP]

You say not true?
Then you should proof what you claim. In germany, and i can speak for germany, the numbers of covid death are minimum 90 times higher than death through the vaccine.

Please give us the link that supports this claim

 

[wolfwint]

Please give us the link that supports this claim

https://amp2.wiwo.de/politik/deutsc...schlecht-altersgruppe-und-monat/27585446.html

https://www.echo24.de/welt/pei-astr...ech-nebenwirkung-corona-impfung-90574215.html

Well, this datas are with numbers from April 2022
It is 68 times, not 90 times more. Sorry, for bad counting.

There is a link which said that millions were saved through the vaccine.
https://www.forschung-und-lehre.de/forschung/impfen-hat-millionen-corona-tote-verhindert-4809

But anyway you will not believe it.
I gave you some links

So please give me links which proof that more people died because of the vaccine then because of the virus.

 

[ZNP]

https://amp2.wiwo.de/politik/deutsc...schlecht-altersgruppe-und-monat/27585446.html

https://www.echo24.de/welt/pei-astr...ech-nebenwirkung-corona-impfung-90574215.html

I cannot read your links because they are asking me to subscribe. Can you please copy the article to google translate, and then give us the english translation.

Well, this datas are with numbers from April 2022
It is 68 times, not 90 times more. Sorry, for bad counting.

Can't you understand the incredible flaw in your claim? I haven't read the articles yet and am looking forward to reading them, but how can you tell us how many are yet to die from the vaccine? You can't. So what you are really saying is that a virus that has had 2 1/2 years to kill people has killed more people that a vaccine that may have had a month.

There is a link which said that millions were saved through the vaccine.
https://www.forschung-und-lehre.de/forschung/impfen-hat-millionen-corona-tote-verhindert-4809

Same thing, I do not subscribe to this magazine, can you cut and paste the article to google translate, and then post the English version on this forum so I can read it.

But anyway you will not believe it.
I gave you some links

I can assure you that I will read these with great interest if you will translate them into English (takes one second on google translate) and the post on this forum. I will read it critically but I am very open to what they have found.

So please give me links which proof that more people died because of the vaccine then because of the virus.

I have never made this claim, direct this to the person who made the claim.

 

[Bluesproverb]

I said the same thing to another guy on this site when the vaxx first started rolling out. I don't see him anymore. Perhaps he died. But some people have gotta learn from their own folly.

I wouldn't put it past the pharmaceutical companies sending,hiring,people to troll social media, forums of all kinds, so to push the population control by injection agenda.

The DNC did this years ago during one of HRC's bid for president.
If a political think tank will do that for the votes it's not impossible for someone do the same thing to further concession to the human population culling agenda.

People who deny this injection danger is dangerous and a myth are insulting those who have buried their loved ones after they died after getting this injection.

Now the agenda includes injecting babies from 6 months of age.

Imagine if that little one was impacted already because mommy got the injection and boosters while pregnant.

It's viral and ''vaccine'' warfare. All of it manufactured by Satanic men and women.

 

[Angela53510]

The vaccine against Covid was an illegal human experiment. It violated the Nuremberg laws to mandate an experimental vaccine. They lied about this saying the vaccine was no longer experimental, yet they gave people the experimental one.

That alone ties this into Psalm 120: 1 In my distress I cried unto the Lord, and he heard me. 2 Deliver my soul, O Lord, from lying lips, and from a deceitful tongue.

The Psalms are prophetic of each year since 1901 with 120 being 2020, the year of the pandemic. (It would be much too long for me to go into this here, I have covered this extensively in my blog and there is a book on this called "The Prophecy in the Psalms" and I have linked many messages from S4C Global community which covers these prophecies extensively).

Joel tells us that a worldwide pandemic that shuts down the world's economy because God is proclaiming a sabbath rest is a sign that the day of the Lord is at hand. We have had pandemics before, but never one that shut down the worldwide economy.

Revelation tells us that the sorcerers will be severely judged, these are not a few weirdo witch doctors in some tribe in the Amazon or Africa. These guys impacted the entire world and will be judged accordingly. The vaccine was pushed by liars, was a major sign of the Lord's return, and was created in a Frankenstein lab of sorcerers.

First, this prophecy in the Psalms tied to years is utter nonsense. Take a course in hermeneutics, which is Bible interpretation, and you will see how wrong what you have said is.

Second, a little over 100 years ago, we had the Spanish influenza, which literally covered the world. It was much more deadly than COVID. A lot of people were terrified COVID was going to be like Spanish flu. We are lucky it was not!

"It is estimated that about 500 million people or one-third of the world’s population became infected with this virus. The number of deaths was estimated to be at least 50 million worldwide with about 675,000 occurring in the United States."
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-pandemic-h1n1.html

One third of the earth's population. My grandfather had it. So did all his friends. He lost all is hair as a young 20 year old man. But all his friends died, so he did well. The economy is always going to be affected by a pandemic. True, there was no mandates shutting down business, but there were mask mandates, and people could be arrested for not wearing a mask. This pandemic coincided with the end of WWI, and the American soldiers were put in camps to keep them and Americans safe. The opposite happened. The soldiers got sick and quickly died without good sanitation and medical care.

You need to study history! This COVID Was not a bad as the Spanish flu. Although many died from the flu, and others got sick, the population of the world is so much higher! I. 1918 there were only 1.5 billion people in the world. Today there are 8 billion people in the world.

"Covid-19 is continuing to spread around the world, with more than 550 million confirmed cases and more than six million deaths reported across almost 200 countries."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-51235105.amp

COVID only hit the 50 million more people, despite the earth having Over 5 times as many people! As far as deaths, COVID only had 6 million deaths, compared to Spanish flu killing 50 million people. Spanish flu was much more deadly and it hit people in the prime of life - 20s & 30s, taking out the next generation, whereas COVID mostly took out old people, because of terrible care received in LTC

This reading the newspaper to figure out prophecy never works! John Hagee in 2016 predicted the appearance of 4 blood moons meant the end, but here we are still going strong. God will send Jesus for his second coming in his time. No trying to match the Bible with modern events will tell you anything!

 

[Angela53510]

In which way do you disagree Angela? Obviously we mean strengthening our immune system when it’s weak. Unless we should take the jab to weaken our “STRONGER” than normal immune system. Which is not speculation, but fact!

Yes, learning how to reboot your metabolism, gut bacteria, and supplementing with good nutrition and medicinal herbs DO help. A holistic approach vs a man made approach trying to play God.

Sure, in the Spanish flu 104 years ago, 50 million people died. They had no vaccines, limited medical care. Is that what you mean by letting your own system didn't work for them? Only 6 million died of COVID. I doubt the vaxes did anything, they did not help me! And all those natural things, I do daily. My gut has improved remarkably. Of course, I've been a vegetarian for 52 years, and grow all my organic vegetables. No junk food is owed in my house!

But eating healthy didn't stop me from getting COVID, nor has it stopped all my autoimmune diseases. My fibromyalgia is the worst it has been in 12 years, since I first was diagnosed with it. My RA is doing well, the biologic I am on is incredibly strong, and it has knocked out my flares.

A STRONG immune system means the body is attacking the immune system. A normal immune system does not attack itself. It just defends the body against foreign substances, like bacteria and viruses. For people with autoimmune diseases, the body can't tell which cells belong to the body and which are foreign, so it attacks everything! It's also why people with autoimmune diseases usually have more than one. I have 4 of them.

 

[Angela53510]

It was a bogus question. Everyone can see many aspects of Christ being crucified in the story of Abraham offering Isaac, but they were not identical stories. Jesus said the end of the age would be "as the days of Noah" doesn't mean it will be identical.

I'm sorry if I don't take you seriously, but you do it to yourself. If you don't see the correlation between WWII and the tribulation fine, that is your prerogative. I am not obligated to answer every idiotic question you can come up with, sorry.

More "newspaper" history for prophecies. Except these days, between books and videos, we know a lot about WWII. It is NOT the tribulation. Yes, it was a horrible war. What happened in msny places was appalling. But, you just can't take a biblical topic, and plug WWII into it. It's not a good fit for one thing. Learn more about history and interpreting the Bible.

I believe you are very sincere in your love of God, But you make a mockery of God with this newspaper prophecy! Learn how to read the Bible correctly, and you will have biblically defensible topics. Right now, you really have a bunch of trash glued together with a vivid imagination. Learning Koine Greek and Biblical Hebrew can also help tremendously. Then you can see what the original words were, not various translations.

 

[Angela53510]

If you couldn't see the Holocaust in 1938, you were blind

Now you can see why we have a holocaust. Some people refuse to be warned. There were plenty of warnings prior to the holocaust. In 1919 the story began that Germany lost WWI because the Jews stabbed them in the back. But it isn't until September of 1941 all Jews are required to wear a star of David.

Use your common sense, why would it be a law that if you are a Jew you have to wear a star of David? You are clearly being othered. Maybe they want to destroy your business. OK, so then why are you staying in a country that hates you? But it has to be more than just to destroy your business because if that was the case they would simply put signs on every Jewish owned business.

Long before this in 1938 there were anti Jewish laws which prohibited Jews from certain businesses. The minute they do that you should have packed up and left.

In August of 1938 if a Jew did not have a recognizable Jewish name they had to adopt a middle name of Sarah or Israel. This is simply a precursor of the star of David. You don't have to be a genius to realize this is a way of othering you and for whatever reason they feel they need to identify every Jew in the country. To me it is very clear, Jews should have left Germany in 1938. You probably could have sold your house, your business and simply left.

However, by August of 1938 it was clear to some Jews so Austria set up a special office where if you want to leave Austria you must pay a big fee and give up virtually all of their property. At that point it had to be very clear. Anyone who stays after that point is simply making excuses for why they don't want to suffer a financial loss.

Kristallnacht was November 1938. In December of 1938 it was illegal for Jews to own businesses.

You had until October of 1941, up to that point they encouraged emigration of Jews.

The Holocaust was a terrible thing. 6 million Jews died. Others were psychologically damaged. But do you know where Hitler got his idea for the Holocaust?

From Stalin, and his Holomodor in 1932-33. He killed 10 million Ukrainians by starvation and shooting them. The stories are awful, in letters set to a Canada, about eating grass and frogs, but there was not even enough of that. After Stalin killed Ukrainians, esp in the east, Donbas and so forth, he moved Russians into those Oblasts. And they are still fighting about it, but most people know nothing of why those Russians are in Ukraine,

Stalin had a devil's mind, and also in 1938, sent thousands of Ukrainians to the Gulags in eastern Russia. There are many stories about people walking thousands of miles to go back home to Ukraine. Every rotten idea Stalin had, he told it to Hitler, who implemented it in his war.

I would recommend you read "Bloodlands" by Timothy Snyder. It would add greatly to your understanding of Hitler. It is gruesome, but true.

 

[Angela53510]

The devil and vile spirits don't listen, people involved in exorcism know of this by experience dealing with them, they just repeat one lie and denial after another. Thus can we identify those from the Godly.

No wonder when one claims to be a medical professional of some level and they continually post as at best a much lower level, say custodian, we know the fruit of the tree identifies the tree.

I can't think of a word that adequately describes what a slanderous non Christian you are!

What are the basic commands of Jesus? Love the Lord your God with all your strength, mind and spirit. Second is "love your neighbour as yourself!" You can't even love a fellow Christian. But I guess ad hominem attacks are all you have, cause you don't have any actual genuine facts to present, with credible sources.

 

[Angela53510]

I can't think of a word that adequately describes what a slanderous non Christian you are!

What are the basic commands of Jesus? Love the Lord your God with all your strength, mind and spirit. Second is "love your neighbour as yourself!" You can't even love a fellow Christian. But I guess ad hominem attacks are all you have, cause you don't have any actual genuine facts to present, with credible sources.

The other sad fact about this forum, is the way people stick by their friends instead of the truth. They support you, instead of making up their minds for themselves. It is such a sad inditement of Christianity today. Following Jesus should be our goal, instead of approving of someone constantly slandering another member.

I'm not saying people have to agree with Wolfwint. The vax did nothing for me, I got severe COVID with pneumonia. But the monoclonal antibodies did save me.

What I am talking about is the fact the Wolfwint is a highly qualified supervisor nurse in a hospital in Germany! But over & over Shittim keeps calling him a janitor. Once would have been cute, or funny. I've counted 5 or 6 times. I've also reported him every time for slander. But not for either view on the vaccine.

I was looking forward to participating in the forum again. But this place has lost its morals and standards. A very unfriendly and unChristian forum. At least the BDF!

 

[shittim]

I don't see any fruit that indicates a medical professional by the posts that are made.
Your lashing out may also be a reaction from the poison vax, I hope not.
We know Jesus said He would separate His sheep from the goats and so far I know of no one who is led by the Spirit to take the poison, I know most are are guided to not be subjected to the devils poison in this time of the great end times deception.

 

[shittim]

 

[ZNP]

First, this prophecy in the Psalms tied to years is utter nonsense. Take a course in hermeneutics, which is Bible interpretation, and you will see how wrong what you have said is.

Second, a little over 100 years ago, we had the Spanish influenza, which literally covered the world. It was much more deadly than COVID. A lot of people were terrified COVID was going to be like Spanish flu. We are lucky it was not!

"It is estimated that about 500 million people or one-third of the world’s population became infected with this virus. The number of deaths was estimated to be at least 50 million worldwide with about 675,000 occurring in the United States."
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandemic-resources/1918-pandemic-h1n1.html

One third of the earth's population. My grandfather had it. So did all his friends. He lost all is hair as a young 20 year old man. But all his friends died, so he did well. The economy is always going to be affected by a pandemic. True, there was no mandates shutting down business, but there were mask mandates, and people could be arrested for not wearing a mask. This pandemic coincided with the end of WWI, and the American soldiers were put in camps to keep them and Americans safe. The opposite happened. The soldiers got sick and quickly died without good sanitation and medical care.

You need to study history! This COVID Was not a bad as the Spanish flu. Although many died from the flu, and others got sick, the population of the world is so much higher! I. 1918 there were only 1.5 billion people in the world. Today there are 8 billion people in the world.

"Covid-19 is continuing to spread around the world, with more than 550 million confirmed cases and more than six million deaths reported across almost 200 countries."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-51235105.amp

COVID only hit the 50 million more people, despite the earth having Over 5 times as many people! As far as deaths, COVID only had 6 million deaths, compared to Spanish flu killing 50 million people. Spanish flu was much more deadly and it hit people in the prime of life - 20s & 30s, taking out the next generation, whereas COVID mostly took out old people, because of terrible care received in LTC

This reading the newspaper to figure out prophecy never works! John Hagee in 2016 predicted the appearance of 4 blood moons meant the end, but here we are still going strong. God will send Jesus for his second coming in his time. No trying to match the Bible with modern events will tell you anything!

I am well aware that the Spanish flu was deadlier than Covid19, I am also well aware that it was a worldwide pandemic. Yes, in individual locations they may have mandated a mask but that was not universal. Never before in History have we seen a worldwide shutdown, that is what is unique. We have seen deadly plagues, pestilences, epidemics and even pandemics before. However, a "pandemic" that spans the globe is going to be directly affected by travel and prior to commercial airfare that was limited, at least in time. Ships would certainly carry diseases from one port to the next, but it was easy to quarantine a ship and since it could take a week or more to get from one port to the next you would generally see people on the ship come down with the disease and so refuse to let them disembark.

However, this post of yours has left us all breathless for this marvelous insight you must have from your years of studying hermeneutics. Don't stop here otherwise we would think you are telling us to not watch for the Lord's coming, a direct contradiction to His command to us. When asked about His coming He gave the signs to the disciples. So please, by all means, enlighten us.

 

[ZNP]

More "newspaper" history for prophecies. Except these days, between books and videos, we know a lot about WWII. It is NOT the tribulation.

The Bible says there is "the" antichrist and also that there are many antichrists. No two snowflakes are the same and yet when you have seen one it makes it easier to recognize the next.

Yes, it was a horrible war. What happened in msny places was appalling. But, you just can't take a biblical topic, and plug WWII into it. It's not a good fit for one thing. Learn more about history and interpreting the Bible.

WWII led to the Jews returning to Israel, that is Bible prophecy. It was only the second time in History we had a "world war" that also is something that is prophesied. WWI led to the defeat of the Ottoman empire and the Balfour Declaration. That is Biblical prophecy. The holocaust is a reference to a Jewish burnt offering. That also was tied to Biblical prophecy as the required sacrifice after Jesus crucifixion. Prophecy is pattern, I'm sure your hermeneutics course mentioned that. Abraham offering Isaac gives us the pattern of Jesus being offered, etc.

I believe you are very sincere in your love of God, But you make a mockery of God with this newspaper prophecy! Learn how to read the Bible correctly, and you will have biblically defensible topics. Right now, you really have a bunch of trash glued together with a vivid imagination. Learning Koine Greek and Biblical Hebrew can also help tremendously. Then you can see what the original words were, not various translations.

Wow. Well I believe I will stand before the Lord, not you. That I will be judged on whether or not I was faithful to His word to me, not based on your judgement. However, I also believe that at the judgement seat this word you have spoken will be replayed.

 

[ZNP]

The other sad fact about this forum, is the way people stick by their friends instead of the truth. They support you, instead of making up their minds for themselves. It is such a sad inditement of Christianity today. Following Jesus should be our goal, instead of approving of someone constantly slandering another member.

I'm not saying people have to agree with Wolfwint. The vax did nothing for me, I got severe COVID with pneumonia. But the monoclonal antibodies did save me.

What I am talking about is the fact the Wolfwint is a highly qualified supervisor nurse in a hospital in Germany! But over & over Shittim keeps calling him a janitor. Once would have been cute, or funny. I've counted 5 or 6 times. I've also reported him every time for slander. But not for either view on the vaccine.

I was looking forward to participating in the forum again. But this place has lost its morals and standards. A very unfriendly and unChristian forum. At least the BDF!

Shittim is saying that because Wolfwint is Aidan. Repeatedly Aidan would say he was in a German hospital and would make unsubstantiated claims and speak as though his opinion should be authoritative. However, when someone referred to him as a doctor he corrected us. So then we asked what he did at the hospital and he was vague and would not give a direct response. I had no idea he was a "highly qualified supervisory nurse" as you say, I am wondering how you found this out. I may have missed that post because I have learned to ignore most of what he posts.

 

[ZNP]

For comparison we estimate 1.2 million were evacuated in the US due to Katrina

 

[ZNP]

For comparison we estimate 1.2 million were evacuated in the US due to Katrina

Revelation 12:13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child. 14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent. 15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

There is one very interesting point that should be considered. The 3 gorges dam is somewhat like the biology of the woman's reproductive system, and the word "rapture" is also used for when a woman's water breaks. If the 3 gorges dam were to break it would result in a flood of 500 million people, it would destroy China's industrial heartland, and it would be "apocalyptic" in the sense of being an event so huge that you could see John referencing it in Revelation. Of course "the dragon" is a symbol of China, just as the Bear is of Russia or "the Great Eagle" is of the US. But because of this threat of war with Taiwan I feel that Taiwan's first response to any attack would be to blow up this dam. Foolish and ignorant people will say that it is hard to blow up a dam because if you hit the concrete dam with a missile it may very well bounce off. That is not how you would blow it up. Water is an excellent medium to transmit force. If a very large explosive detonated underwater the pressure would blow open the dam, particularly this one since it isn't curved like the Hoover dam.

(BTW I realize Angela53510 will consider this useless newspaper prophecy, I have considered what she has said and given it the response it deserves).