Vaccine is killing more people than covid
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You are right that unscrup
ulous individuals, almost certainly of the pro vaxx sicophants, have sullied this man, and hurt his family with fake pictures. I'm sorry I put the fake picture up. This appears to actually be the Dr.
But you are dead wrong in thinking that there isn't a conspiracy surrounding the deadly gene altering injection. I could literally be here for weeks giving thousands of examples of those that have died from this poison.
Lorne E. Segall | Department of Otolaryngology (utoronto.ca)
But you are dead wrong in thinking that there isn't a conspiracy surrounding the deadly gene altering injection. I could literally be here for weeks giving thousands of examples of those that have died from this poison.
Lorne E. Segall | Department of Otolaryngology (utoronto.ca)
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You are right that unscrup
ulous individuals, almost certainly of the pro vaxx sicophants, have sullied this man, and hurt his family with fake pictures. I'm sorry I put the fake picture up. This appears to actually be the Dr.
But you are dead wrong in thinking that there isn't a conspiracy surrounding the deadly gene altering injection. I could literally be here for weeks giving thousands of examples of those that have died from this poison.
Lorne E. Segall | Department of Otolaryngology (utoronto.ca)
But you are dead wrong in thinking that there isn't a conspiracy surrounding the deadly gene altering injection. I could literally be here for weeks giving thousands of examples of those that have died from this poison.
Lorne E. Segall | Department of Otolaryngology (utoronto.ca)
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I feel the same about people like you.
This is your future as you inject more "boosters" of this poison into yourself.
You will get sicker and sicker as your immune system get's more and more destroyed. Repeatedly catching this, and other viruses.
I honest to God feel incredibly sad for you.
This is your future as you inject more "boosters" of this poison into yourself.
You will get sicker and sicker as your immune system get's more and more destroyed. Repeatedly catching this, and other viruses.
I honest to God feel incredibly sad for you.
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Anyone supporting this vaccine, please post a "serious study" that has been done since people have been double vaxxed and double boosted that supports the claim that this is better than no vaccine.
I am looking for a study that will stand up to scrutiny.
So far all we have gotten is unsubstantiated claims from Wolfwint (aka Aiden) and insults and slander from ChristianTonyB
I am looking for a study that will stand up to scrutiny.
So far all we have gotten is unsubstantiated claims from Wolfwint (aka Aiden) and insults and slander from ChristianTonyB
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Look at this! This person has been making unsubstantiated claims repeatedly, claiming to have many "serious studies". Yet when you ask for one he runs, he hides, he obfuscates, he squirms.
Once again:
Show me one "serious study" that can stand up to scrutiny, that people who have been double vaxxed and double boosted are better off than those who didn't get the shot.
He claims he has many such studies and yet has never produced one.
Once again:
Show me one "serious study" that can stand up to scrutiny, that people who have been double vaxxed and double boosted are better off than those who didn't get the shot.
He claims he has many such studies and yet has never produced one.
Over the last 7 days Wolfwint has posted 7 times to this thread and 39 times to the thread "Survey Poll: Will you take the Covid 19 Vaccine" yet he wants you to believe it would be "a waste of his time" to provide just one of these studies from the many he claims to have.
Let's see one "serious study" that can stand up to scrutiny, that people who have been double vaxxed and double boosted are better off than those who haven't.
He has told us that he is a medical professional that speaks for Germany. Let's see this "serious study".
Let's see one "serious study" that can stand up to scrutiny, that people who have been double vaxxed and double boosted are better off than those who haven't.
He has told us that he is a medical professional that speaks for Germany. Let's see this "serious study".
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Here's one!
Oh wait. Nevermind. It shows the vaxxed are WORSE off than the pure.
STUNNING... New England Journal of Medicine: Unvaxxed COVID Patients Contagious for LESS TIME than Vaxxed COVID Patients (thegatewaypundit.com)
Oh wait. Nevermind. It shows the vaxxed are WORSE off than the pure.
STUNNING... New England Journal of Medicine: Unvaxxed COVID Patients Contagious for LESS TIME than Vaxxed COVID Patients (thegatewaypundit.com)
Liars, cheats, frauds, scam artists, and phony NIH officials also share these traits.
So let's hope that Wolfwint will quickly dispel any hint of this and present the "serious studies" that support his claim that the double vaxxed and double boosted are better off than those who have not had the shot.
So let's hope that Wolfwint will quickly dispel any hint of this and present the "serious studies" that support his claim that the double vaxxed and double boosted are better off than those who have not had the shot.
Lancet Study concludes fewer people will die from Covid after the 3rd dose of vaccine
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(22)00158-9/fulltext
This study is so poorly done and yet the journal is so prestigious that I have to believe this is not due to incompetence.
Issues with the study
1. There is no accounting for the adverse effects from the vaccine! You can't use this study to determine if it is worth the risk to get the vaccine because they are looking at a single factor -- deaths.
2. Their research shows there is little to no effect after the first or second dose. Yet they show this big drop after the 3rd dose. The problem with this is that we have seen with both doses there is a short term positive effect which wears off quickly. It only makes sense that those who got the third dose have gotten that for the shortest period of time.
3. There is no accounting for long term effects. We have lots of evidence of myocarditis which is a deadly condition but which might not kill you for months or years.
4. If someone dies from Myocarditis after getting the vaccine it won't be counted in this study because they are only counting those who die from Covid. If a woman has a miscarriage, it won't be listed, if there are serious adverse reactions, not listed here.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(22)00158-9/fulltext
This study is so poorly done and yet the journal is so prestigious that I have to believe this is not due to incompetence.
Issues with the study
1. There is no accounting for the adverse effects from the vaccine! You can't use this study to determine if it is worth the risk to get the vaccine because they are looking at a single factor -- deaths.
2. Their research shows there is little to no effect after the first or second dose. Yet they show this big drop after the 3rd dose. The problem with this is that we have seen with both doses there is a short term positive effect which wears off quickly. It only makes sense that those who got the third dose have gotten that for the shortest period of time.
3. There is no accounting for long term effects. We have lots of evidence of myocarditis which is a deadly condition but which might not kill you for months or years.
4. If someone dies from Myocarditis after getting the vaccine it won't be counted in this study because they are only counting those who die from Covid. If a woman has a miscarriage, it won't be listed, if there are serious adverse reactions, not listed here.
Here is what makes me angry
1. It is not our job to prove the vaccine is deadly, it is their job to prove that it is both safe and effective.
2. When we ask relevant questions we are insulted, slandered, accused of being "anti vaxx", etc. etc. etc. That is not how someone who is honest and trustworthy would respond to relevant and logical questions.
3. When they do produce studies that pretend to show that the vaccine is safe and effective they don't. This Lancet study I posted #857 is one example.
4. We are seeing young, healthy, athletic people dropping dead at alarming rates. Why aren't they doing autopsies and telling us why they died? If you are not transparent then of course people will assume you are hiding something.
5. We have had a worldwide effort to vaccinate people and at the same time a new sudden death syndrome among healthy adults is taking place. Any reasonable and responsible person would want a study done including autopsies to prove that this is not related to the vaccine. The accusations of unfounded conspiracy theories tells me they are liars. Obviously, anyone familiar with the Pharma industry and the long history of drugs that were not safe and effective and yet were sold and marketed should show that being skeptical is the appropriate response.
6. Everything they tell us is false. We were told that if you got the vaccine you wouldn't get Covid. False. We were told that if you got the vaccine it would help society because you wouldn't transmit the virus. False. They told us to wear useless masks. False. They told us shutting down schools and the economy was the best way to fight this. False. They told us HCQ and Ivermectin were not effective and were dangerous. False. They told us the way to treat this was with Remdesvir. False. They put people onto ventilators which was essentially a death sentence. Cuomo and others sent contagious people back into the nursing homes and yet they told us he was the gold standard of how to deal with this. False. They told us Trump was holding super spreader events. False. They accused Desantis of not respecting the science. False. In my opinion, you tell me all these falsehoods there is no way I will listen to anything you say.
1. It is not our job to prove the vaccine is deadly, it is their job to prove that it is both safe and effective.
2. When we ask relevant questions we are insulted, slandered, accused of being "anti vaxx", etc. etc. etc. That is not how someone who is honest and trustworthy would respond to relevant and logical questions.
3. When they do produce studies that pretend to show that the vaccine is safe and effective they don't. This Lancet study I posted #857 is one example.
4. We are seeing young, healthy, athletic people dropping dead at alarming rates. Why aren't they doing autopsies and telling us why they died? If you are not transparent then of course people will assume you are hiding something.
5. We have had a worldwide effort to vaccinate people and at the same time a new sudden death syndrome among healthy adults is taking place. Any reasonable and responsible person would want a study done including autopsies to prove that this is not related to the vaccine. The accusations of unfounded conspiracy theories tells me they are liars. Obviously, anyone familiar with the Pharma industry and the long history of drugs that were not safe and effective and yet were sold and marketed should show that being skeptical is the appropriate response.
6. Everything they tell us is false. We were told that if you got the vaccine you wouldn't get Covid. False. We were told that if you got the vaccine it would help society because you wouldn't transmit the virus. False. They told us to wear useless masks. False. They told us shutting down schools and the economy was the best way to fight this. False. They told us HCQ and Ivermectin were not effective and were dangerous. False. They told us the way to treat this was with Remdesvir. False. They put people onto ventilators which was essentially a death sentence. Cuomo and others sent contagious people back into the nursing homes and yet they told us he was the gold standard of how to deal with this. False. They told us Trump was holding super spreader events. False. They accused Desantis of not respecting the science. False. In my opinion, you tell me all these falsehoods there is no way I will listen to anything you say.
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Thats why it makes no sense to sense you any study or report.
I had respondet to you in the false thread.
The theme of this thread here is what I meant.
This thread claimes that the vaccine is killing more people then covid. Without bringing any proof for this claim.
Not i have to bring a proof, what you would anyway reject.
The starter of this thread has to bring the proof. But he cant. As you all cant bring this proof. Because it is not true.
You can show all the mistakes people are doing. You can show how imperfect this vaccine is, but you cant bring the proof that the vaccine is killing more people then the virus itself.
And because you cant do it, you attack every meaning which is not supporting your view.
I had respondet to you in the false thread.
The theme of this thread here is what I meant.
This thread claimes that the vaccine is killing more people then covid. Without bringing any proof for this claim.
Not i have to bring a proof, what you would anyway reject.
The starter of this thread has to bring the proof. But he cant. As you all cant bring this proof. Because it is not true.
You can show all the mistakes people are doing. You can show how imperfect this vaccine is, but you cant bring the proof that the vaccine is killing more people then the virus itself.
And because you cant do it, you attack every meaning which is not supporting your view.
The vaccine is an experimental vaccine. It has not been proven to be either safe or effective. The burden of proof is on the vaccine makers. It is illegal to mandate it until that has been proven.
We have lots and lots of indicators that it is not safe. Birth rates have plunged, miscarriages have spiked, people are dropping dead at an astounding rate. The only way to prove whether or not the vaccine is responsible is to have a high quality study done, this would include autopsies of these sudden death syndrome among adults which has just started. Until you provide proof that the vaccine is not responsible I can choose to not get it.
I can look at actions taken by the government and it undermines any trust in them. They have been wrong about what to do repeatedly and worse, when professionals tried to point this out they were fired, shut down, and slandered.
They accuse people who are skeptical of the vaccine of being anti vaxx. This is a blatant lie. I was a school teacher and required to get all my shots before I could teach. I had no issue with that. However, I teach science and I know as a general rule it takes 50 years before they got any of these mandated vaccines. You have to have 10-20 years of data to prove it is safe long term. I also know that we don't make vaccines for a corona virus because they mutate too rapidly, all the professionals knew that and yet they never tried to address that seeming contradiction. Instead, now a year in they are like "oh this mutates rapidly" as though that was some kind of surprise. It wasn't and pretending it was is a lie. I also know that every pandemic in the past died out due to herd immunity. The appropriate response would have been to simply practice social distancing. You don't need six feet and you don't need a mask. What you do need is to take people's temperature at the front door, don't go to work if you have symptoms, and keep 3 feet apart. Sneeze shields are also good. If they had done that we would be over this. They accused Trump of holding super spreader events when in reality the opposite took place, those states with these large rallies had less issue with Covid while those states with the harshest lockdowns had the worst. I also know that this mRNA vaccine is not the same as the previous vaccines we have had. Up till now if you get a vaccine it means you get immunity, you don't get the virus and you don't transmit it. Calling this a vaccine is deceitful. Then they tell us that the vaccine will make it so you get less sick and yet that has already been proven false in that Lancet study I shared. They show that getting one or two shots does not reduce the likelihood that you will get hospitalized. They say that the third shot is the charm but we all know that the data on that was a joke. How about waiting a year after the third shot to determine if that is true?
Everything about this vaccine is a lie. That is why I have no confidence in anything you say. You claim to be a medical professional and yet don't know any of this?
We have lots and lots of indicators that it is not safe. Birth rates have plunged, miscarriages have spiked, people are dropping dead at an astounding rate. The only way to prove whether or not the vaccine is responsible is to have a high quality study done, this would include autopsies of these sudden death syndrome among adults which has just started. Until you provide proof that the vaccine is not responsible I can choose to not get it.
I can look at actions taken by the government and it undermines any trust in them. They have been wrong about what to do repeatedly and worse, when professionals tried to point this out they were fired, shut down, and slandered.
They accuse people who are skeptical of the vaccine of being anti vaxx. This is a blatant lie. I was a school teacher and required to get all my shots before I could teach. I had no issue with that. However, I teach science and I know as a general rule it takes 50 years before they got any of these mandated vaccines. You have to have 10-20 years of data to prove it is safe long term. I also know that we don't make vaccines for a corona virus because they mutate too rapidly, all the professionals knew that and yet they never tried to address that seeming contradiction. Instead, now a year in they are like "oh this mutates rapidly" as though that was some kind of surprise. It wasn't and pretending it was is a lie. I also know that every pandemic in the past died out due to herd immunity. The appropriate response would have been to simply practice social distancing. You don't need six feet and you don't need a mask. What you do need is to take people's temperature at the front door, don't go to work if you have symptoms, and keep 3 feet apart. Sneeze shields are also good. If they had done that we would be over this. They accused Trump of holding super spreader events when in reality the opposite took place, those states with these large rallies had less issue with Covid while those states with the harshest lockdowns had the worst. I also know that this mRNA vaccine is not the same as the previous vaccines we have had. Up till now if you get a vaccine it means you get immunity, you don't get the virus and you don't transmit it. Calling this a vaccine is deceitful. Then they tell us that the vaccine will make it so you get less sick and yet that has already been proven false in that Lancet study I shared. They show that getting one or two shots does not reduce the likelihood that you will get hospitalized. They say that the third shot is the charm but we all know that the data on that was a joke. How about waiting a year after the third shot to determine if that is true?
Everything about this vaccine is a lie. That is why I have no confidence in anything you say. You claim to be a medical professional and yet don't know any of this?
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