Vaccine is killing more people than covid

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ZNP

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This is a reasonable conclusion, since between about 85 to 98% of adults in the richer countries have apparently been vaccinated. Most of the studies being done, and peer reviewed, are in the richer countries. They are being hospitalised, yes, but the rate of deaths is nowhere near that which was occurring before vaccines were produced. You're misusing the statistics.
So then the vaccine does not prevent you from catching Covid, it doesn't prevent you from transmitting Covid and it doesn't prevent you from dying from Covid.

Tell me again why it is for the good of society that anyone should get the shot and why the government felt compelled to mandate this?
 

shittim

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So then the vaccine does not prevent you from catching Covid, it doesn't prevent you from transmitting Covid and it doesn't prevent you from dying from Covid.

Tell me again why it is for the good of society that anyone should get the shot and why the government felt compelled to mandate this?

Seems it prevents the perpetrators from being charged if they call it a "vaccine".
 

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Roger Seheult is a Christian medical doctor and teaching professor in the US.
This is very good, Thank you. :)
Sars is a complex virus in how it attacks the body for some people.

It is really disappointing the amount of disinformation and misinformation "Christians" have engaged in and promoted.
 

PennEd

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Debunk this:



Will physicians EVER speak out?

Or will they continue to shrug their shoulders and refuse to look at the data showing that these vaccines are the biggest scandal in medical history?

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The deaths:



Dates of death: July 17, 18, 20.
Look at how close together the dates are! All three died in a 3 day period just days after they gave the 4th shot. All are young doctors. You can see from their pictures. All three at Trillium Health in Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
No mention of the vaccination date or cause of death.
 

ZNP

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Debunk this:



Will physicians EVER speak out?
Or will they continue to shrug their shoulders and refuse to look at the data showing that these vaccines are the biggest scandal in medical history?

Steve Kirsch
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The deaths:



Dates of death: July 17, 18, 20.
Look at how close together the dates are! All three died in a 3 day period just days after they gave the 4th shot. All are young doctors. You can see from their pictures. All three at Trillium Health in Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
No mention of the vaccination date or cause of death.
Matthew 24:4 Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many.

Thank you for focusing on the facts and not on the propaganda that some on this thread keep posting. I am tired of them claiming my concerns are "myths" and that the data is "disinformation". They have been warned, they have shut their ears and shut their eyes. The Lord will take it from here.
 
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Debunk this:



Will physicians EVER speak out?
Or will they continue to shrug their shoulders and refuse to look at the data showing that these vaccines are the biggest scandal in medical history?

Steve Kirsch
Jul 23
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The deaths:



Dates of death: July 17, 18, 20.
Look at how close together the dates are! All three died in a 3 day period just days after they gave the 4th shot. All are young doctors. You can see from their pictures. All three at Trillium Health in Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
No mention of the vaccination date or cause of death.
I searched for these doctors names on Trillium's Web and Facebook sites, and got no hits. You would think there would be some reference there to them. I google searched the Web to see what references are made to the names, and except for one reference on RateMD to one of the names, which would be credible, to say that the other sites that referenced them would be untrustworth would be an understatement. Check them out and you'll see what I mean. The conspiracy being conspired here is by the conspiracy theorists themselves, and not by rational thinking human beings.
 

PennEd

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I searched for these doctors names on Trillium's Web and Facebook sites, and got no hits. You would think there would be some reference there to them. I google searched the Web to see what references are made to the names, and except for one reference on RateMD to one of the names, which would be credible, to say that the other sites that referenced them would be untrustworth would be an understatement. Check them out and you'll see what I mean. The conspiracy being conspired here is by the conspiracy theorists themselves, and not by rational thinking human beings.

I'm sure their family members would be crushed to hear that their dead loved ones don't exist. Please consider them..

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Nehemiah6

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They are being hospitalised, yes, but the rate of deaths is nowhere near that which was occurring before vaccines were produced. You're misusing the statistics.
The only reason there were ANY deaths is because the medical establishments, public health agencies, and pharmacies all SABOTAGED Ivermectin and the HCQ combo pack!

Now a doctor -- Mary Bowden -- who was attacked by Houston Methodist Hospital for doing the right thing is suing that hospital for 25 million dollars. They actually defamed her and suspended her privileges because she was treating patients with Ivermectin etc. So -- once again -- all those COVID deaths were actually mass murders, and all the COVID Nazis should have been executed like the former Nazis at Nuremberg.
 

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I searched for these doctors names on Trillium's Web and Facebook sites, and got no hits. You would think there would be some reference there to them. I google searched the Web to see what references are made to the names, and except for one reference on RateMD to one of the names, which would be credible, to say that the other sites that referenced them would be untrustworth would be an understatement. Check them out and you'll see what I mean. The conspiracy being conspired here is by the conspiracy theorists themselves, and not by rational thinking human beings.
We have a thread for tin foil hat conspiracy theorists, you should post this on that thread.
 

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New Study Shows Ivermectin Can Reduce Chance Of Death By 92%
A new large prospective observational study of 88,000 people shows ivermectin works; the greater the dose, the better it works.



So why was Ivermectin sabotaged as seen here: "But the WHO, NIH, and FDA all recommend[ed] that you avoid using it..."

The unavoidable conclusion is that there was an actual conspiracy to vaccinate everyone and then see the fallout in depopulation, debilitation, and decimation. A DIABOLICAL agenda to destroy humanity.
 
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I'm sure their family members would be crushed to hear that their dead loved ones don't exist. Please consider them..

Dr. Jakub Sawicki
Knowledge 5. Dr. Jakub Sawicki treated me for a few years. I was one of his very first patients at his own office. He was very polite, calming, and always had the utmost respect for his patients. We bonded on so many levels- as far as patient doctor relationship does. I'm extremely saddened by the loss of this incredible young educated doctor.
  • Location: Mississauga, L4T0, 8
Dr. Jakub Sawicki - Mississauga, ON - Family Doctor Reviews ... - R…
https://www.ratemds.com/doctor-ratings/3914106/Dr-Jakub-Sawicki-Mississauga-ON.html/


Dr lorne segall obituary
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dr lorne segall obituary
Dr lorne segall obituary |The obituary for Dr. Lorne Segall was made public by his family members on social media. Despite this, the family of Dr. Lorne Segall has not released any information about the upcoming obituary, including when it will be published.
It may be difficult for the family and friends of Dr. Lorne Segall to express their feelings about him on social media because it is the most personal topic for them to discuss.
The family of Dr. Lorne Segal has prepared an obituary, however
There has been no mention of a specific date. Dr Lorne’s family and friends must be going through a difficult period. Please accept our deepest sympathies. Our thoughts and prayers are always with Dr. Lorne’s family and loved ones. However, the cause of death for Dr. Lorne is as follows:
However, we can tell our readers that as soon as it becomes available, we will let them know. We ask our readers to keep Dr. Lorne’s family and friends in their thoughts and prayers at this time. Our thoughts and prayers are with the family of the deceased.
In such a difficult moment, Lorne Dr Segall.




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The first one you referred to is the one I mentioned was referenced on RateMD. The only other reference I saw about that person was on a Polish website. I did say that their appears to be one credible report.

The second reference you make, to Lorne Segall, shows a picture of Stephen Seagal, the martial artist and actor, who the last I heard is alive and kicking in Russia, rubbing shoulders with Vlad.

You’ve been conned by so many deceptions, you are conditioned now to accept any that are served up to you. I feel sick in my stomach for you, but mostly I’m angry that you are giving credibility to the lies you are propagating on a website that bears Christ’s name. You insult me by doing so, but far more dangerous is that you insult the Lord Jesus and the Father by the rubbish you and your fellow conspiracy theorists are publishing under Their Names.
 
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The only reason there were ANY deaths is because the medical establishments, public health agencies, and pharmacies all SABOTAGED Ivermectin and the HCQ combo pack!

Now a doctor -- Mary Bowden -- who was attacked by Houston Methodist Hospital for doing the right thing is suing that hospital for 25 million dollars. They actually defamed her and suspended her privileges because she was treating patients with Ivermectin etc. So -- once again -- all those COVID deaths were actually mass murders, and all the COVID Nazis should have been executed like the former Nazis at Nuremberg.
This is just ridiculous conjecture. No one is claiming mistakes haven't been made. We are all learning about the virus and how best to mitigate against it, on the fly. But to suggest that there is collusion by governments, the medical and pharma fraternities and others to intentionally harm the populace is just idiocy.
 

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You’ve been conned by so many deceptions, you are conditioned now to accept any that are served up to you. I feel sick in my stomach for you, but mostly I’m angry that you are giving credibility to the lies you are propagating on a website that bears Christ’s name. You insult me by doing so, but far more dangerous is that you insult the Lord Jesus and the Father by the rubbish you and your fellow conspiracy theorists are publishing under Their Names.
Who are you that judges another?

They insulted you! That is terrible! Doesn't that violate our guidelines. You should report this! What did they say about you? Ohhh, hold it, I get it, you disagree with what they say, if they don't toe the line and spout the official dogma then that is an insult to you?

I still don't get it, who put you in charge of making sure everyone spouts the same official line that you do about the jab? Oops I means jabs. To be specific the "double vaxxed and double boosted" crowd. So is this your job and because PennEd is not toeing the line you are receiving flack from your overlords?

Hold it, wait a second. You say that PennEd is insulting God the Father and Jesus Christ? That makes you the judge? Who made you judge? Before the Lord Jesus PennEd will stand or fall.

James 4:11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. 12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?
 

shittim

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We may expect to be witnessing the neurological issues linked to the spike proteins here among the ones who took the poison.
 

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So then the vaccine does not prevent you from catching Covid, it doesn't prevent you from transmitting Covid and it doesn't prevent you from dying from Covid.

Tell me again why it is for the good of society that anyone should get the shot and why the government felt compelled to mandate this?
It is in all points better, then to have no vaccine. And there are enough serious studies about it.
 

ZNP

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It is in all points better, then to have no vaccine. And there are enough serious studies about it.
Wow, really? Why not post one of those studies on this site instead of just making these unsubstantiated claims.

Sadly, IMHO, you are perhaps the least credible person on this forum.
 

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Wow, really? Why not post one of those studies on this site instead of just making these unsubstantiated claims.

Sadly, IMHO, you are perhaps the least credible person on this forum.
Thats the problem. And thats why it makes no sense to search any studies. You would not believe them.
But thats makes your view about the things not automatically right.