Were Nephilim (Gen 6) judged differently by God?
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You haven't presented ANY Scripture in these 3 passages; you have only quoted Scriptures from other passages, but not from the passages you claimed that there are fallen angels (Dan 10, Eph 6, 1 Pet 5). n
Just because Michael fights evil angels in Revelation 12 does not mean that is who he is fighting in Daniel 10.
These passages do not say they are "fallen angels".
You are assuming what Scripture says.
In an attempt to understand why you call them "fallen angels" in these 3 passages...since you won't (can't) provide Scripture to justify why... I'm taking that as your opinion rather than Scripture.
Just because Michael fights evil angels in Revelation 12 does not mean that is who he is fighting in Daniel 10.
These passages do not say they are "fallen angels".
You are assuming what Scripture says.
In an attempt to understand why you call them "fallen angels" in these 3 passages...since you won't (can't) provide Scripture to justify why... I'm taking that as your opinion rather than Scripture.
God did not record His Word for us in the format which you desire.
HE did record the Truth for us to know which only comes from believing every word that HE spoke.
Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. And when He had fasted forty days and forty nights, afterward He was hungry. Now when the tempter came to Him, he said, “If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.”
But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ”
Matthew 4:1-4
No precise phrase such as "fallen angel" in Matthew 4:1-4 and yet there is a fallen angel in this passage.
Peace
HE did record the Truth for us to know which only comes from believing every word that HE spoke.
Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. And when He had fasted forty days and forty nights, afterward He was hungry. Now when the tempter came to Him, he said, “If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.”
But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ”
Matthew 4:1-4
No precise phrase such as "fallen angel" in Matthew 4:1-4 and yet there is a fallen angel in this passage.
Peace
Because God said so in His Word.
KEY to understanding = 2 Timothy 3:14-16
But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, 15and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for [c]instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
KEY to understanding = 2 Timothy 3:14-16
But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, 15and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for [c]instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
After about two months since the question was asked, and a few thousands years since the event happened; nope God still hasn't changed his mind about the first round of fallen angels that forsook their heavenly habitation to mess around with the women in the generations that incurred the flood of God. They're still in hell, quite powerless in chains of darkness, in Jesus name, amen.
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Good Morning Brother Evmur,
Angels are only asexual in their "spiritual domain" as the Scripture clearly states.
The fallen angels who came to earth left/departed/abandoned their "spiritual domain" and took on flesh and cohabitated with human flesh = "the daughters of men" = as the Scripture states.
Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.
"And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strivewith man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown."
Genesis ch6
"But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe. And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."
Jude ch1
Peace
Angels are only asexual in their "spiritual domain" as the Scripture clearly states.
The fallen angels who came to earth left/departed/abandoned their "spiritual domain" and took on flesh and cohabitated with human flesh = "the daughters of men" = as the Scripture states.
Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.
"And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strivewith man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown."
Genesis ch6
"But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe. And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."
Jude ch1
Peace
Only the specific fallen angels who, as you said, "that forsook their heavenly habitation to mess around with the women in the generations that incurred the flood of God.", are the ones in chains to this present day.
The vast majority of "a third of the stars" that follow the Dragon, are not locked up but are in daily warfare against Messiah and His People and the people on earth.
The vast majority of "a third of the stars" that follow the Dragon, are not locked up but are in daily warfare against Messiah and His People and the people on earth.
A third will fall in the future, whether some of them have been seduced already to the dragon's side is unknown, but either way the angels have regulations they have to follow too. If they break them, for instance, if they bring another false gospel contrary to the gospel that the holy known apostles gave us found in the Bible, then then you may curse them, and they will be cursed Even in the future round of the fallen angels before the day of the Apocalypse, their end and the judgement against them is marked out already and foretold even before it happens, and then they'll be slaughtered by Jesus and thrown into the lake of fire. So for those angels still alive thinking on siding with the Devil they should know that the result is going to be just the same for them as their brethren that fell before the flood, and God's mind will not change on this matter for them, in Jesus name, amen.
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Good Morning,
Yes, absolutely - they are the direct creation of God just as we are, except they were not created for the earth/flesh.
The angels domain is above us and beyond us in the spiritual dimension.
#1 Dwell on this = Hebrews 2:5-9
"For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.
But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him?
Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:
Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man."
#2 SEE here = Job 38:7
Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?
Tell Me, if you have understanding.
5Who determined its measurements?
Surely you know!
Or who stretched the line upon it?
6To what were its foundations fastened?
Or who laid its cornerstone,
7When the morning stars sang together,
And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
#3 PURE undeniableTRUTH here = Luke 20:34-36
Jesus answered and said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage. 35But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage;
36nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
Peace to you Brother Evmur
Yes, absolutely - they are the direct creation of God just as we are, except they were not created for the earth/flesh.
The angels domain is above us and beyond us in the spiritual dimension.
#1 Dwell on this = Hebrews 2:5-9
"For unto the angels hath he not put in subjection the world to come, whereof we speak.
But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him?
Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:
Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.
But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man."
#2 SEE here = Job 38:7
Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?
Tell Me, if you have understanding.
5Who determined its measurements?
Surely you know!
Or who stretched the line upon it?
6To what were its foundations fastened?
Or who laid its cornerstone,
7When the morning stars sang together,
And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
#3 PURE undeniableTRUTH here = Luke 20:34-36
Jesus answered and said to them, “The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage. 35But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage;
36nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
Peace to you Brother Evmur
i fully agree = angels in their spiritual state/domain do not have procreative ability = Luke 20:34-36
The angels that rebelled and came to earth, leaving their spiritual domain and entered the realm of flesh are the only ones that can procreate with "the daughters of men" = just as the Word declares = Jude ch1 and Genesis ch6
"But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.
And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day;
as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."
"Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose."
100% Clear Truth from Scripture
The angels that rebelled and came to earth, leaving their spiritual domain and entered the realm of flesh are the only ones that can procreate with "the daughters of men" = just as the Word declares = Jude ch1 and Genesis ch6
"But I want to remind you, though you once knew this, that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.
And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day;
as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."
"Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose."
100% Clear Truth from Scripture
I don't think it is as clear cut as that.
What creative abilities do angels have? whether in their first estate or not, to enable themselves to develop procreative capabilities ... angels have no ability to create.
Jude. v.5
I will therefore put you in remembrance, though you once knew this, how that the Lord having saved the people out of the land of Egypt afterward destroyed them that believed not
6. and the angels which kept not their first estate but left their own habitation. He hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgement of that great day.
[You make no comparison here between two groups of people who sinned and fell under God's judgement but you leap to make the comparison between the angels [in the way you suppose them to have sinned] and the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah in verse 7.]
7.
Even as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities about them in like manner ...
[in like manner refers to the cities round about and Sodom and Gomorrah, they sinned in like manner. It is not saying they sinned in like manner to the angels that fell ... and also the sin is different from the Genesis reference for the sons of God were attracted to women, the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was that they were attracted to men or strange flesh.]
The idea that that angels had sex with women comes from the book of Enoch.
Peace.
What creative abilities do angels have? whether in their first estate or not, to enable themselves to develop procreative capabilities ... angels have no ability to create.
Jude. v.5
I will therefore put you in remembrance, though you once knew this, how that the Lord having saved the people out of the land of Egypt afterward destroyed them that believed not
6. and the angels which kept not their first estate but left their own habitation. He hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgement of that great day.
[You make no comparison here between two groups of people who sinned and fell under God's judgement but you leap to make the comparison between the angels [in the way you suppose them to have sinned] and the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah in verse 7.]
7.
Even as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities about them in like manner ...
[in like manner refers to the cities round about and Sodom and Gomorrah, they sinned in like manner. It is not saying they sinned in like manner to the angels that fell ... and also the sin is different from the Genesis reference for the sons of God were attracted to women, the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah was that they were attracted to men or strange flesh.]
The idea that that angels had sex with women comes from the book of Enoch.
Peace.
Brother Evmur - only in thier original spiritual state are angels/sons of God nonsexual beings. Reproduction was only created by God for this realm on earth = the flesh.
Angels are a Higher Creation then man. Thus we mortals look forward to the Resurrection when we also will be Translated into the Likeness of the Son of God = just as the LORD said.
In Genesis ch6 and confirmed in Jude we see how some angels forsook/abandoned their spiritual domain and came to earth taking on physical bodies by which they were then able to procreate with = "the daughters of men".
God made this very clear distinction in Genesis ch6 by the precise use of words = "the sons of God saw the daughters of men"
Jude confirms exactly this rebellion by these angels and why they have been locked up while the vast majority of fallen angels are still roaming about in rebellion serving satan for the final battle that is coming.
Satan has been orchestrating a repeat of Genesis chapter 6 but in with a different approach/method since he knows he cannot send angels as before. This is recorded in the book of Daniel.
This end time deception is part of the lying wonders spoken of in 2 Thessalonians ch2.
ALSO = Jude is in fact saying that the angels violated their spiritual status by coming to earth and going after "strange flesh" which for them was cohabitating with the "daughters of men".
Reproduction/sexual union was created for the flesh, on this earth. For angels to abandon their spiritual status and take on human form, they rebelled against the parameters set forth by God and in so doing polluted the entire planet = "all flesh has been corrupted before Me" = therefore the LORD said: "I will destroy all flesh" whereby only Noah was genetically pure before God.
Peace
Angels are a Higher Creation then man. Thus we mortals look forward to the Resurrection when we also will be Translated into the Likeness of the Son of God = just as the LORD said.
In Genesis ch6 and confirmed in Jude we see how some angels forsook/abandoned their spiritual domain and came to earth taking on physical bodies by which they were then able to procreate with = "the daughters of men".
God made this very clear distinction in Genesis ch6 by the precise use of words = "the sons of God saw the daughters of men"
Jude confirms exactly this rebellion by these angels and why they have been locked up while the vast majority of fallen angels are still roaming about in rebellion serving satan for the final battle that is coming.
Satan has been orchestrating a repeat of Genesis chapter 6 but in with a different approach/method since he knows he cannot send angels as before. This is recorded in the book of Daniel.
This end time deception is part of the lying wonders spoken of in 2 Thessalonians ch2.
ALSO = Jude is in fact saying that the angels violated their spiritual status by coming to earth and going after "strange flesh" which for them was cohabitating with the "daughters of men".
Reproduction/sexual union was created for the flesh, on this earth. For angels to abandon their spiritual status and take on human form, they rebelled against the parameters set forth by God and in so doing polluted the entire planet = "all flesh has been corrupted before Me" = therefore the LORD said: "I will destroy all flesh" whereby only Noah was genetically pure before God.
Peace
Genesis 6 says that the "sons of God" took WIVES. A "wife" is not merely a "cohabitation". And the angels in the book of Jude "despised dominion" and "left their own habitation". Actually, God threw them out. The ones in the Book of Jude who "defiled the flesh" / "went after strange flesh" were the Sodomites.