so you disagree when Paul says ALL of Israel will be saved?
This does not include unbelievers of any nationality, whether they be Jew or Greek or Geek.
so you disagree when Paul says ALL of Israel will be saved?
Do you have a clear understanding of the office of a prophet? They repeat what God puts in their mouth and obeys what He has them do. Do you not think God could put those words there? Really!that's ENOCH and then Jude.
which Old Testament Jew knew this other than from Enoch?
even though they followed Yahweh and obeyed His command to sacrifice
so they are not saved?
Yes, and I don't understand how the likes of little me, can understand it and yet those claiming to know more fail to see it. I just can't get that. It is like God placed the blindness and heart hardening on them as well. By by the grace of God.........Jesus told them they must be born again. He told them who He was and gave them many signs and wonders to provide proof of His deity. Some believed, some did not, and some of the worst hate-mongers demanded His crucifixion. Hopefully they asked forgiveness later, but if they did not, they will be standing before the Great White Throne with the Gentile unbelievers.
God set it up didn't He so it would point the right way.
so the jews were saved then!
you hate jews just admit and i will stop debating!
Amen!I shall humbly confess that the salvational state of Jews who died thousands of years ago is beyond the scope of my ministry, but I do recall Jesus telling a certain Jew named Nicodemus that he must be born again.
if Jesus, Peter, Paul, Jude, and John quote Enoch, it does not have to be a Biblical source voted by MEN, it only has to be a truthful source and why they quote it.I know which is why I included that, because earlier you claimed they quoted from the gnostic text of the book of Enoch which is not a Biblical source.
same here, but i have reread your answers and if you were God and this was Judgement Day, you would not only send the Jews to Hell but do it with a smile.I am a Jew by birth, but raised as a Christian. So how can I hate my own people? Again those unclean fingers point. Have you no control?
i just said Paul said ALL PEOPLE and the NATION of Israel will be saved.
but they weren't the Generation chosen to reject Christ. and if ALL Israel does not mean ALL Israel will be Saved, then what does it mean?John 3:14
“And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:”
Those that neglected to look upon that brass serpent perished.
here's the People of Israel:That is quite a mouthful. Are you sure you don't want to redact that?
where did I question the Office of a Prophet at?Do you have a clear understanding of the office of a prophet? They repeat what God puts in their mouth and obeys what He has them do. Do you not think God could put those words there? Really!
but they weren't the Generation chosen to reject Christ. and if ALL Israel does not mean ALL Israel will be Saved, then what does it mean?
so to you, even though Paul said the jews were hardened (good example is Pharaoh), you don't think being hardened by God no matter the Signs and Wonders (like Pharaoh) would change their mind? it didn't change Pharaoh's mind. he still tried to kill the Hebrews.Jesus told them they must be born again. He told them who He was and gave them many signs and wonders to provide proof of His deity. Some believed, some did not, and some of the worst hate-mongers demanded His crucifixion. Hopefully they asked forgiveness later, but if they did not, they will be standing before the Great White Throne with the Gentile unbelievers.
so to you, even though Paul said the jews were hardened (good example is Pharaoh), you don't think being hardened by God no matter the Signs and Wonders (like Pharaoh) would change their mind? it didn't change Pharaoh's mind. he still tried to kill the Hebrews.
here's the same Greek text Jerome used in 350 AD.So tell me what you believe then.
Do you think all Jews are predestined to go to Heaven, or just those of the Jesus generation?
no, Pharaoh was not God's Chosen People.I suppose you shall be trying to put Pharoah in Heaven as well?