Who is a Jew?

[RichGladden]

11 For the life of the creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you on the altar to make atonement for your lives—for it is the blood that makes atonement because of the life.

(in religious contexts) reparation or expiation for sin:
"an annual ceremony of confession and atonement for sin"


That does not mean saving!

 

[oyster67]

so there was sacrificing going on in the Temple when Jesus was alive and sin offering?

Jesus, and all the other Jews that had seen and accepted Him, informed them of the fact that it was time the change gears. Paul was blinded, but this led him toward the Truth, not away from it. Paul never gave any of the unbelieving Jews a false sense of security like some are doing today.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

(in religious contexts) reparation or expiation for sin:
"an annual ceremony of confession and atonement for sin"


That does not mean saving!

but all of the ancient Hebrew/Jews in the Old Testament did this and was later saved through Christ.

so the Jews of Jesus day were doing this and later Jesus would save them.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Jesus, and all the other Jews that had seen and accepted Him, informed them of the fact that it was time the change gears. Paul was blinded, but this led him toward the Truth, not away from it. Paul never gave any of the unbelieving Jews a false sense of security like some are doing today.

so you disagree when Paul says ALL of Israel will be saved?

 

[RichGladden]

but all of the ancient Hebrew/Jews in the Old Testament did this and was later saved through Christ.

so the Jews of Jesus day were doing this and later Jesus would save them.

Not with unbelief.....ever. They have to believe on Jesus, no matter how many sacrifices they made.

 

[oyster67]

Amen!

but until Jesus became the sacrifice, sacrifices in the Temple was how the Jews sins were covered [temporarily] correct?

They were saved by what these rituals pointed to.

 

[pottersclay]

but all of the ancient Hebrew/Jews in the Old Testament did this and was later saved through Christ.

so the Jews of Jesus day were doing this and later Jesus would save them.

If they beleived jesus was their messiah

 

[RichGladden]

They were saved by what these rituals pointed to.

A great way of stating it!

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Not with unbelief.....ever. They have to believe on Jesus, no matter how many sacrifices they made.

so all ancient Hebrews who did not know Jesus is in hell even though they followed Yahweh and obeyed His command to sacrifice?

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

If they beleived jesus was their messiah

the ancient Jews before the New testament thought Messiah was coming as a Ruler and King. so they would not be thinking of him like He did come. so they are not saved?

 

[RichGladden]

so all ancient Hebrews who did not know Jesus is in hell even though they followed Yahweh and obeyed His command to sacrifice?

Jesus is the only way, the truth and the life. Besides, does not the scriptures say Jesus returns with 10000 of his saints? Surely it is not that difficult to figure out.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

They were saved by what these rituals pointed to.

ok!

God set it up didn't He so it would point the right way.
so the jews were saved then!

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Jesus is the only way, the truth and the life. Besides, does not the scriptures say Jesus returns with 10000 of his saints? Surely it is not that difficult to figure out.

that's ENOCH and then Jude.

which Old Testament Jew knew this other than from Enoch?

 

[RichGladden]

that's ENOCH and then Jude.

which Old Testament Jew knew this other than from Enoch?

They did not quote from the book of Enoch, they quoted from OT and Enoch was an OT prophet. We have already cover this. What's next they quored from Quran? Don't be absurd!

 

[RichGladden]

ok!

God set it up didn't He so it would point the right way.
so the jews were saved then!

No they were not. Again you are interjecting your beliefs into what is NOT written.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

They did not quote from the book of Enoch, they quoted from OT and Enoch was an OT prophet. We have already cover this. What's next they quored from Quran? Don't be absurd!

where in the Old Testament is that listed at?

it is in Enoch!

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

No they were not. Again you are interjecting your beliefs into what is NOT written.

you hate jews just admit and i will stop debating!

 

[RichGladden]

where in the Old Testament is that listed at?

it is in Enoch!

I know which is why I included that, because earlier you claimed they quoted from the gnostic text of the book of Enoch which is not a Biblical source.

 

[oyster67]

but all of the ancient Hebrew/Jews in the Old Testament did this and was later saved through Christ.

so the Jews of Jesus day were doing this and later Jesus would save them.

I shall humbly confess that the salvational state of Jews who died thousands of years ago is beyond the scope of my ministry, but I do recall Jesus telling a certain Jew named Nicodemus that he must be born again.

 

[RichGladden]

you hate jews just admit and i will stop debating!

I am a Jew by birth, but raised as a Christian. So how can I hate my own people? Again those unclean fingers point. Have you no control?