Who is a Jew?
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The High Priest died in all 4 of the gospels and is referred to s the crucifixion.
the Book of Enoch is not in the Canon but still Jesus, Paul, Peter, Jude, and John quote it.
The Temple was in full service during the life of Christ and we know the System God set-up. so it was happening. you know it but it makes you wrong by having to accept it. so you rather call God a LIAR than accept fact!
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pottersclay
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What your forgetting here friend is what john the baptist said...behold the lamb that takes away the sins of the world.
The early sacraficial offerings only covered over the sins they did not take them away.
Jesus is the one and only sacrafice that takes away the sins.
Hope this helps.
Theres alot more to this but ill end it here for now.
not the issue we are discussing.
why add something not relative?
Moses and the Prophets all were Saved by sacrificing through the Temple but yes, Jesus took their sins away. the current Jews of Jesus day would be no different.
No scholar accepts the book of Enoch as inspired by God, and certainly not worthy of basing doctrine on it. Unacceptable! Not valid proof.
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pottersclay
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There is one high priest that did die...jesus.
Being the high priest he offered himself a sacrifice.
who is a scholar's opinion when Jesus is God and quotes it?
you are the same cloth as Anderson.
On the contrary, it is essential to this topic pertaining to the view of some in regards to Romans 11, but at present, we are discussing your saved priest prior to Hesus, which does not exist.
have you even followed the conversation?
you have jumped in on a fact we know but ARE NOT EVEN DISCUSSING?
Again with name calling? It shows you are losing.
And no Jesus quoted from the OT not Book of Enoch.
And that still does not prove your point.
you have circular reasoning. you would be tossed out of litigation the moment you offered anything up.
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kaylagrl
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All Israel Will Be Saved
25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way[e] all Israel will be saved. As it is written:
“The deliverer will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
27 And this is[f] my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”
10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit[a] of grace and supplication. They will look on[b] me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son. 11 On that day the weeping in Jerusalem will be as great as the weeping of Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo.
Blinded for a time, then their eyes will be opened and the will grieve when they recognize the Messiah. And will be saved the same way anyone else is saved, through Christ.
Of course you're saved by the blood. His point is why the Jews are the chosen people in the first place, to bring the Gospel to the world. The Gospel was to the Jew first. When they disobeyed God turned His attention to the Gentiles, for a time, Jews were blinded and we benefit because of that. That is what he is talking about.
Romans Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, 31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now[h] receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. 32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.
We receive mercy because of their disobedience and vice versa. That's what the Watcher meant in their post.
You just can't stop yourself. Again with attacks because you have no proof, you have no case, and you have lost and you don't want to accept it.
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pottersclay
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Absolutely wrong nothing but the blood of jesus saves.....if so God's a liar.
Moses and the prophets ( moses being a prophet himself) all had faith in a coming messiah they beleived the word of God as many others did.
Therefore just like abraham it was counted as righteousness but when they died they could not enter heaven for jesus had not come....hence abrahams bosom.
Told you there was more to it.
That is not correct and you can not prove it. They quoted from the OT which bears resemblance to Book of Enoch but it has been reject as the source by all scholars.
well, you are saying there was no Temple when Jesus lived, so there was no sacrifice happening, so there was no temporary salvation happening.
that's exactly what that false devil would say!