Insight On those Who have to Work

[Willow]

Eh... I've seen both happen a lot lately. You're right that some management doesn't give a fart in a whirlwind about the employees, but they are also right about a LOT of people just not wanting to work any more.

I have my thoughts on being tired of working. But it is because of all the stupidity in charge.

I see a lot of retiree's re-entering the work place. Sadly, FICA is still taken out of their paycheck. And when they can't live off the FICA tax return in that form of social security checks now, it makes it worse to take it out when they get a supplemental job.

And if they make too much money at that supplemental job their SS benefits are cut.

Some forego retiring and stay gainfully employed.

I know a woman who worked for that very reason. Her job was such that management didn't care about her SS loss should she clock too many hours.

Other employees weren't reliable so she'd have to stay clocked in until a replacement could arrive. Risking her SS to cuts.

She finally quit because management didn't work with her or respect her concerns.

It's a different world now for sure.
My brother-in-law worked one job for 40+ years, never missed a day.

Now, at all the workplaces of friends and even my own, it's typical for people to not show for work. Happens every day.
And when they do show, they still have a job.

I think that's one reason companies hire those over 50. They've a different and usually better work ethic.

I went into Arby's here and saw a man dropping fries that had to be in his 80's . He didn't move very fast but did manage to get the fries in. Sadness me some to think the government does not give the elderly what they need to survive. Probably just trying to keep what he has. I worked in healthcare as a STNA, heard it many times . They don't have enough income to live on their own.

 

[Willow]

All valid complaints. But the real reason it's happening now is the push for socialism. People believing either the government or the 1% owe them something so they don't have to work.
And many that do work do it poorly. I recently read where a business refused to hire young people because they were so much trouble. The final straw for them was when a new, younger, employee wanted her bf to hang out at her job all day so they could chat while she worked.

It's been a while since I've worked (disabled) but last I worked 39 hours was still full time, hence benefits. In fact anything over 32 hours a week was full time.

Well working everyday I seen it is because of horrible conditions . But some just do not want to work. But that is nothing new for sure.

 

[RichMan]

Well working everyday I seen it is because of horrible conditions . But some just do not want to work. But that is nothing new for sure.

The Scripture says those who will not work should not eat.
I am all for helping those who are truly in need, provided it is not because of their laziness or stupid decisions or lifestyle.
If a person quits a job, regardless of how bad it is, should go hungry.
I will help their kids, but not that person.

 

[JohnDB]

I have had several people talk like people do not want a job. That is the only reason I put this on here. It is an insight on what goes on at these jobs. They lie to people and when you start the job and sadly have to leave it have had people make remarks. I was put at the last job for God's purpose many these days do not serve the Lord. But I am not staying. My hands are much better and still a little discolored from the frostbite. But they are almost healed PTL!

There is a disparity between employer and employee.

Employees think jobs should pay more....
Employers believe employees are disposable but should worship the company that employs them as if they are God.

 

[JaumeJ]

The Scripture says those who will not work should not eat.
I am all for helping those who are truly in need, provided it is not because of their laziness or stupid decisions or lifestyle.
If a person quits a job, regardless of how bad it is, should go hungry.
I will help their kids, but not that person.

The Scripture is referring to members of the Body of Christ who do nothing to help the cogregation, the assembly.

No matter how you interpret it, it must go along with what Jesus Yeshua teaches. Give wiwthout looking. Do not let the right hand know what the left is doing and more. Also, love your enmy is here, and winning others to Jesus by our love should be stressed.

Ours is not to judge the helpless, it is to help the helpless.

 

[Willow]

The Scripture says those who will not work should not eat.
I am all for helping those who are truly in need, provided it is not because of their laziness or stupid decisions or lifestyle.
If a person quits a job, regardless of how bad it is, should go hungry.
I will help their kids, but not that person.

I will show mercy when led by God. Only because I have fallen short. But am weary of paying for people who do not want to work. I have PTSD and do not have a monthly check coming in. I feel I need to work . But have to say it is frustrating for those not in the work force complain that everyone between jobs does not want to work. I am between jobs atm healing up. But I am not getting paid to heal up. I am instead looking for another job. I am not jumping into just any job. But noone pays my way except God and myself.

 

[Willow]

Would be nice to receive occasionally emoluments from jobs that cause your issues for being off of work. Would show they may actually care and want you back. But that is why God has my back,amen.

 

[JaumeJ]

Agreed, so, amen.

 

[Bluesproverb]

I have my thoughts on being tired of working. But it is because of all the stupidity in charge.

I went into Arby's here and saw a man dropping fries that had to be in his 80's . He didn't move very fast but did manage to get the fries in. Sadness me some to think the government does not give the elderly what they need to survive. Probably just trying to keep what he has. I worked in healthcare as a STNA, heard it many times . They don't have enough income to live on their own.

Today's senior retiree's suffer because the American voter was lied to in the 1930's. SS started as a referendum vote. To sell it to voters the lie they were told was the monies taken from their paycheck would serve as their individual retirement fund. And would acrue interest over the years to the day they retired. Then it would be portioned to them every month.

Nothing was further from the truth. And the lying politicians of the time knew it.

So did Roosevelt when he signed the bill into law in 1935.

There's an elderly lady that works as the dining room maid at the local McDonalds.

A friend takes his kids there. Before they leave he quietly tips her handsomely for her service.

He says it's because he sees his possible future or those of his kids if things don't turn around.

That's sad. And yet a true blessing for the lady.
That is unless or until the IRS thinks that is a possibility for all such services. Then they'll find a way to assess a tax on her probable tips.

 

[RichMan]

Ours is not to judge the helpless, it is to help the helpless.

I agree with this, but one does not help a lazy person by allowing him to have food when not working.
It also takes from those truly in need.

 

[Willow]

Today's senior retiree's suffer because the American voter was lied to in the 1930's. SS started as a referendum vote. To sell it to voters the lie they were told was the monies taken from their paycheck would serve as their individual retirement fund. And would acrue interest over the years to the day they retired. Then it would be portioned to them every month.

Nothing was further from the truth. And the lying politicians of the time knew it.

So did Roosevelt when he signed the bill into law in 1935.

There's an elderly lady that works as the dining room maid at the local McDonalds.

A friend takes his kids there. Before they leave he quietly tips her handsomely for her service.

He says it's because he sees his possible future or those of his kids if things don't turn around.

That's sad. And yet a true blessing for the lady.
That is unless or until the IRS thinks that is a possibility for all such services. Then they'll find a way to assess a tax on her probable tips.

She is actually not supposed to take tips. But I have found a way around it. I give them money and go this is what I owe you. God bless have a nice day . I worked awhile back for Ollies and people would tip me. I was told I was not allowed to keep it . But someone suggested I put it in my drawer . Two reasons I did not . One they didn't pay me enough to fatten their wallets. The other I felt compelled to bless the customers who ran a little short. Someone made a comment toward me doing this. My simple answer was fire me. Like to see the reason put on it why they fired me. It was a temp job to hire. I did not stay, because they had me running register, stocking shelves, cleaning bathrooms, and counting all the drawers. Which was not in my job description for 11 dollars an hr. Not enough money to kill myself for.

 

[Willow]

I agree with this, but one does not help a lazy person by allowing him to have food when not working.
It also takes from those truly in need.

Be led of God in all things. sometimes we enable people by helping too much. I found this out years back. I would rather be seen as heartless sometimes, than pass away enabling someone. I have had to say no and now many I have said no too work for a living. But do believe God wants us to show mercy also ,amen . Wisdom in all things.
I had a brother pass away years back on drugs and alcohol my mom enabled him. His heart literally exploded and they said his face looked like something from a horror movie. I could not bear to see him this way . So I pray about things and use God's wisdom. Love sometimes comes with being disciplined . Just a thought either way .

 

[Bluesproverb]

The Scripture says those who will not work should not eat.
I am all for helping those who are truly in need, provided it is not because of their laziness or stupid decisions or lifestyle.
If a person quits a job, regardless of how bad it is, should go hungry.
I will help their kids, but not that person.

John Hagee gave such a speech years ago.

Saying, if you're a disabled Vet and don't work, STARVE! If you're a single mom and don't work, STARVE! Then do to the fallout once the broadcast was uploaded to YouTube he invoked copyright and YouTube pulled them.

John Hagee is morbidly obese and a multimillionaire whose ''church'' has no known community or congregational support programs operating in Dallas Texas.
And his speech was not biblical.

It's easy for the fat and wealthy to judge the desperate and starving. A tragedy of a man labeling himself a man of God.

https://biblereasons.com/feeding-the-hungry/

 

[Bluesproverb]

She is actually not supposed to take tips. But I have found a way around it. I give them money and go this is what I owe you. God bless have a nice day . I worked awhile back for Ollies and people would tip me. I was told I was not allowed to keep it . But someone suggested I put it in my drawer . Two reasons I did not . One they didn't pay me enough to fatten their wallets. The other I felt compelled to bless the customers who ran a little short. Someone made a comment toward me doing this. My simple answer was fire me. Like to see the reason put on it why they fired me. It was a temp job to hire. I did not stay, because they had me running register, stocking shelves, cleaning bathrooms, and counting all the drawers. Which was not in my job description for 11 dollars an hr. Not enough money to kill myself for.

When I was a cashier I kept extra change in my pocket to help people who were short a little.

A homeless woman came into the market where I worked. It was an inferno outside and she was crying from the heat and thirst.

I'd just gotten off work. I walked her to the drink fridge and she got an ice tea. Then we walked about the store and shopped for drinks and nonperishables.

Save for the grace of God there go I.

What ye do for the least of these.

 

[Willow]

John Hagee gave such a speech years ago.

Saying, if you're a disabled Vet and don't work, STARVE! If you're a single mom and don't work, STARVE! Then do to the fallout once the broadcast was uploaded to YouTube he invoked copyright and YouTube pulled them.

John Hagee is morbidly obese and a multimillionaire whose ''church'' has no known community or congregational support programs operating in Dallas Texas.
And his speech was not biblical.

It's easy for the fat and wealthy to judge the desperate and starving. A tragedy of a man labeling himself a man of God.

https://biblereasons.com/feeding-the-hungry/

Yeah he turned me off on alot of things years back when he preached how being a drunk will send you to hell. I sat there thinking what about being morbidly obese? I do not want people to think me unkind to point that out. But seriously what gives anyone the right to be that cruel to say things like that . I am a veteran and would be offended if I had heard that. He grieves my spirit. This hate and bashing one another tears people down. Are we not supposed to lift one another in prayers? So much blood on these people's hands for passing judgement on others. Perhaps why more and more I stay to myself.

 

[Willow]

When I was a cashier I kept extra change in my pocket to help people who were short a little.

A homeless woman came into the market where I worked. It was an inferno outside and she was crying from the heat and thirst.

I'd just gotten off work. I walked her to the drink fridge and she got an ice tea. Then we walked about the store and shopped for drinks and nonperishables.

Save for the grace of God there go I.

What ye do for the least of these.

Amen exactly I have been homeless and had food out of the trash. I would that people would be more merciful and understanding. Sometimes it takes mercy shown to give them understanding on what God has for them. Love and compassion. It is hard though at times to help those who seem to be ungrateful.

 

[Willow]

This is why it is so important to plan ahead.
To rely on the government or an employer's retirement fund

There are many that are in need of help.
When we help the lazy, those who could work but choose not to, it takes from what we can give to those who are indeed needy.
I will help his family but not the one who chooses not to work when he is able.

Life happens and sometimes people are not given the education or opportunities and God can use us to bless them. I never want to look down on someone having a hard time. Like the woman at the well been married several times. She was looking for love, only Jesus knew her heart amen.

 

[RichMan]

Life happens and sometimes people are not given the education or opportunities and God can use us to bless them. I never want to look down on someone having a hard time. Like the woman at the well been married several times. She was looking for love, only Jesus knew her heart amen.

Agreed, but you do not help a lazy person by allowing him to be lazy.
I do not look down on anyone. I am willing to help anyone. I to have been there in my youth.

 

[Bluesproverb]

Yeah he turned me off on alot of things years back when he preached how being a drunk will send you to hell. I sat there thinking what about being morbidly obese? I do not want people to think me unkind to point that out. But seriously what gives anyone the right to be that cruel to say things like that . I am a veteran and would be offended if I had heard that. He grieves my spirit. This hate and bashing one another tears people down. Are we not supposed to lift one another in prayers? So much blood on these people's hands for passing judgement on others. Perhaps why more and more I stay to myself.

If people like Hagee are a person's first impression of preachers, especially with that speech, it's also probably why more and more people leave or avoid church.

Pastors are suppose to be an example not a warning.

I was mistaken earlier about Hagee's church being in Dallas Texas. It's actually in San Antonio.

Hagee makes over $1 million dollars in anual salary. His family compound is enormous.
No wonder he preaches the prosperity gospel. He's a long practiced charlatan.

It's not judgement to call him obese. It's reality.
The parable of the rich man and the eye of the needle comes to mind.
What hope, gluttonous charlatan adulterers? Hagees first wife was Martha Downing. His current wife is Diana Castro.
What's the Bible day about STARVE! divorce John?