Why did JESUS say all manner of sin and >--blasphemy<-- will be forgiven but blasphemy of the HOLY SPIRIT will not be forgiven?

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Magenta

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Spirit means breath.

Besides the account of Genesis 3 showing the woman becoming the first ever case of possession, we also know the Three Lies are the demons from Revelation 16.
Demon possession of Eve is neither explicitly nor implicitly in the text.
 
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why didn't God cast the demon out of her if she was possessed?
God did when he told her how to break the dragon's spell after she offered the Second Confession. To desire one man, her husband and obey him and have babies is God's absolute command to woman, which Eve did as afterwards she has babies and Adam names her Eve.
 
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Think about this too in light of the topic of the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Man have a chance of redemption and forgiveness in God's Word, woman also has a chance, but the old serpent no chance. For what he did in the Garden, which is the Three Lies, Satan is unforgiveable and just cursed above all cattle and prophesied to get stomped by Jesus.
 
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God did when he told her how to break the dragon's spell after she offered the Second Confession. To desire one man, her husband and obey him and have babies is God's absolute command to woman, which Eve did as afterwards she has babies and Adam names her Eve.
i only read one confession from Eve. what Bible do you use so i can read this second confession?
 
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i only read one confession from Eve. what Bible do you use so i can read this second confession?
Any mainstream Bible will do, I tend to go with the KJV personally.

Eve only offered one confession but she is the Second Confession. Man makes the First Confession. The Confessions are Genesis 3:9-13.
 
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Any mainstream Bible will do, I tend to go with the KJV personally.

Eve only offered one confession but she is the Second Confession. Man makes the First Confession. The Confessions are Genesis 3:9-13.
i quickly read 4 translations lol
anyway, i just am not seeing evidence of demon possession. i see Eve claim she was beguiled (tricked or deceived) but not a possession. but if that is your interpretation it's interesting for sure. i don't think i've even heard it taught that way. so seeing a new interpretation is definitely interesting. i guess i will study it more and see if i can find the evidence.
 
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i quickly read 4 translations lol
anyway, i just am not seeing evidence of demon possession. i see Eve claim she was beguiled (tricked or deceived) but not a possession. but if that is your interpretation it's interesting for sure. i don't think i've even heard it taught that way. so seeing a new interpretation is definitely interesting. i guess i will study it more and see if i can find the evidence.
Do you know that quote by Peter (the exact letter and verse off the top of my head I forget), "that whatsoever overcome a man to that is he in bondage"? Woman's mind was overcome in the Garden before she ate, this is an important detail and importance of verse 6, which immediately follows after the Devil rends his breath into Three Lies and casts them into her mind.
 
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Do you know that quote by Peter (the exact letter and verse off the top of my head I forget), "that whatsoever overcome a man to that is he in bondage"? Woman's mind was overcome in the Garden before she ate, this is an important detail and importance of verse 6, which immediately follows after the Devil rends his breath into Three Lies and casts them into her mind.
2nd Peter 2:19?
—for a person is a slave to whatever has overcome him.
 
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15 They have abandoned the straight way. They have gone astray. They have followed the way of Balaam the son of Beor, who loved the wages of wickedness.
16 But he received a rebuke for his own wrongdoing. A dumb donkey spoke with a man’s voice and put a stop to the prophet’s madness.
17 These people are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. The gloom of utter darkness has been reserved for them.
18 For by mouthing grandiosities that amount to nothing, they entice in sensual fleshly passions those who are barely escaping from those who live in error.
19 They promise them freedom while they themselves are slaves of corruption—for a person is a slave to whatever has overcome him.
20 For if—after escaping the world’s pollutions through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior, Yeshua the Messiah—they again become entangled in these things and are overcome, the end for them has become worse than the beginning.
21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than after learning about it, to turn back from the holy commandment passed on to them.
 
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you are claiming that Genesis 3:6 Now the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a thing of lust for the eyes, and that the tree was desirable for imparting wisdom. = 2nd Peter 2:19—for a person is a slave to whatever has overcome him?

but is that demon possession or foolishness?
 
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you are claiming that Genesis 3:6 Now the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a thing of lust for the eyes, and that the tree was desirable for imparting wisdom. = 2nd Peter 2:19—for a person is a slave to whatever has overcome him?
It proves she is Satan's possession right there, his Lies overcame her mind. Did what she was thinking and believing in when she ate come true after she ate? Of course not!
 
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It proves she is Satan's possession right there, his Lies overcame her mind. Did what she was thinking and believing in when she ate come true after she ate? Of course not!
i see how you can make that connection. i have something to definitely pray and think about. Thank You!
 

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Holy Spirit "Spirit of Truth" -John 14:17; 15:26, John 16:13

Ephesians 4:30-32

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30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
 
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If you came to my house and ate some fruit that you were not supposed to eat, would that make you my possession?
Well it's not the Devil's house. It be more like being in my Father's Garden and you being his enemy got me to obey your commands instead of my Father's.
 
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Well it's not the Devil's house. It be more like being in my Father's Garden and you being his enemy got me to obey your commands instead of my Father's.
Let me add to this, in the Gospels the Devil and Jesus fight their first duel, and the Devil casts the same Three Lies at Jesus. The wording is a little different but the spirit is the same behind each Lie. It's all geared to the Devil trying to overcome Jesus and make him obey him, but instead what happens is Jesus parries him, and resists, and the Devil runs like hell before Jesus kills him like Psalm 91 prophesies.
 

presidente

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Well it's not the Devil's house. It be more like being in my Father's Garden and you being his enemy got me to obey your commands instead of my Father's.
Where does 'possession' come into your argument.

I just see your posts on this tgread are full of nonsequitors--conclusions not justified by tge arguments you made.