Is The Earth Flat Or Round?

[Bluesproverb]

Takes one to know one...you freak!!!

What?

 

[GaryA]

Gary, part of the problem with this is that you treat those who disagree with you as though they are ignorant sheep.

If it seems to come across in some harsh way - "blame the internet" - but, that is not the way I intend it.

More times than not, it is likely to be a form of "self-reflection" interpretation - based on self-pride.

You see - the real intent is to get intelligent people to use their God-given intelligence to "see right through" the deception. Only, before you can do that, you must swallow your [natural inborn human] pride - and, I mean all of it - so that you can see what is plainly right in front of you. But, when I say this, I am not just referring to your physical eyes - even moreso - your 'spiritual' and 'mental' awareness must be made more active and perceptive.

If I really thought other people were "too dumb to understand" - why would I even bother to try to discuss the topic with them at all?

It might seem insulting if someone tells you that you are 'asleep'. However, if it is coming from an "I truly care" attitude, you should consider that there may be something to it - or, at the very least, that that person believes there is something significant about it that they feel they should discuss it.

Have you ever considered that - if many people tell you that you are asleep - you just might possibly actually be asleep?

Have you ever considered that they just might possibly actually be trying to help you to wake up?

People who are telling you that you are 'asleep' are not necessarily looking down their nose at you.

You should learn to understand that - in the best way they can - they are actually trying to help you.

Accept the possibility that, at the very least, their intentions are genuine and honest.

Say "no thank you" if you wish, but do not assume that everything your imagination comes up with is true.

It is not my intent to insult anyone - only to get them to think for themselves using that God-given intelligence - that I believe they actually do possess.

Has it ever occurred to you that many of us have done our homework, checked things out for ourselves, examined the evidence, and come to a different conclusion than yours?

Yes - and, I can respect that. What if someone comes to a different conclusion than yours? Can you respect that?

 

[GaryA]

G R A V I T Y. Does not work on a flat disc.

'gravity', as you have been taught it, does not exist - nor is it needed - in the Flat Earth model.

I wonder if a meteorite big enough would go right through a flat disc or cause it to tip spilling everything on it, off of it.

Well - since the Bible indicates to us that the earth does not move - I doubt it would tip...

We would not have night and day if the earth did not spin and we would not have seasons if it did not go around the sun.

These things are well explained in the Flat Earth model.

 

[GaryA]

Let's see what the versions say... (thanks to Bible Gateway)

ASV
He hath described a boundary upon the face of the waters, Unto the confines of light and darkness.

CSB
He laid out the horizon on the surface of the waters at the boundary between light and darkness.

CEV
On the surface of the ocean, God has drawn a boundary line between light and darkness.

DARBY
He hath traced a fixed circle over the waters, unto the confines of light and darkness.

DRA
He hath set bounds about the waters, till light and darkness come to an end.

ESV
He has inscribed a circle on the face of the waters at the boundary between light and darkness.

HCSB
He laid out the horizon on the surface of the waters at the boundary between light and darkness.

KJV
He hath compassed the waters with bounds, until the day and night come to an end.

NASB
He has inscribed a circle on the surface of the waters At the boundary of light and darkness.

NET
He marks out the horizon on the surface of the waters as a boundary between light and darkness.

NIV
He marks out the horizon on the face of the waters for a boundary between light and darkness.

NKJV
He drew a circular horizon on the face of the waters, At the boundary of light and darkness.


In response to your assertion, "That is not what Job 26:10 is saying!", it appears that there is plenty of evidence that it is.

Nope.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

If such is indeed the case, then I suggest that we change the name of this website to "UnicornChat".

After all, I've read a lot of "wild bull" here.

lol.

Pardon the interruption...

Which option did you choose In the poll?

 

[Mem]

Has anyone considered a Platonic or Archimedean solid? Is anyone familiar with these? I would've never heard of them if it weren't for this debate.

 

[Live4Him3]

Which option did you choose In the poll?

I didn't vote.

The only time that I really considered this question was many years ago when I used to post on a physics forum that was loaded with Bible-hating/mocking atheists. They were mocking the Bible while saying that it promotes a flat earth. I did refute their alleged flat earth verses that they were giving at that time, but, again, that was many years ago.

That said, I don't personally believe that the earth is flat, but I'm not really planning on entering into the discussion here.

I only read three posts here, and I only popped in for a moment to make a silly joke.

 

[Polar]

People who believe the earth is flat (or, at least, that it is not a spinning ball flying through space) are the people who have questioned what they have been taught/told and do not blindly accept it. Everyone else seems to be happy to believe whatever they are taught/told.

The 'People' you call aware - really are not - they only think they are. And, if-and-when their eyes are opened to the truth, they will see just how far-and-wide-and-deep the deception really goes...

For those people, cognitive dissonance compels them to resist even the slightest notion that they could be wrong and even the smallest suggestion that they might look into it with some personal research and use real critical thinking to discern the truth. In effect, they are psychologically afraid of knowing the truth - because, it would "hurt their pride" to discover that they have been "duped" their entire life.

Those people - since birth - have always believed what they have been taught/told; however, Flat Earth folks - while they were taught/told the same thing as everyone else since birth - have had their eyes opened to the truth about the deception that is rife in all of our lives since birth.

After the Bible - this is one of the most true statements that I can attest to out of the knowledge and experience of my life:

"Truth is available only to those who have the courage to question whatever they have been taught." - (Author Unknown)

And, that is why it is in my signature - to encourage people to think about the things they believe in blindly and never question.

It is never my intent to call anyone dumb, ignorant, stupid, etc. for believing differently than I do. I respect their right to believe whatever they wish.

If I "criticize" a different view - I am doing so concerning the view and not the person who holds that view. There is a difference - don't get 'em mixed up...

You should never trust the Flat Earth Society - it is 'controlled opposition' - and, will only confuse you concerning Flat Earth.

We have pictures and video of the ice wall - some of which have been posted in threads on CC over the past few years.

well hardly or you would not think you are flat footing it across a flat earth

Trying to make a case for flat earth while telling people they do not use their brains is not complimentary and that seems to be the best answer you have. Right.

Honey, I don't trust you at this point never mind the flat earth floppers. I cannot imagine why you would even say that and I have a pretty good imagination.

 

[Polar]

What? Are you not willing to believe "God said..." ???

Is a man-made scientific journal to be trusted more than the Bible?

The Bible does in some measure speak to the physical shape of the earth.

Do not accuse me of saying that the Bible says "The earth is flat." - I am not saying that. However, what the Bible does say - describes and illustrates an earth that is, at the very least, not a spinning ball flying through space.

BTW - if the Bible says that unicorns are real - I believe it!

FYI - Strongs says that a unicorn is a wild bull.

Oh the drama. Behold I must needs faint...or maybe just swoon.

 

[Magenta]

Oh the drama. Behold I must needs faint...or maybe just swoon.

You might even have a concussion after a fall like that!

 

[Polar]

Is a man-made scientific journal to be trusted more than the Bible?

Nah. That's not what you're asking. You are aghast I don't believe your schtick and now you want to frame it with I am brain washed by science and do not hold the Bible to be true.

The Bible is true all right and there are some verses in Proverbs that I am thinking prove much of this thread to be what they speak of.

THE YEARLY PILGRAMAGE OF THE FLAT EARTHERS TO VIEW THE EDGE OF THE EARTH

 

[Polar]

You might even have a concussion after a fall like that!

Then I could become a full fledged flat earther.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Then I could become a full fledged flat earther.

Sorry, your application has been denied.
There is no gravity. A fall in that manner is totally unacceptable.

 

[kleronomos]

If the earth is flat, then just show a picture from that angle. Problem solved. I would love to see the SIDE view. Skinny earth

 

[joecoten]

Is the earth flat or round? Who cares?

 

[Polar]

Sorry, your application has been denied.
There is no gravity. A fall in that manner is totally unacceptable.

but but

how could you just dismiss my magnificent fainting fall down that grand staircase?

is there no recourse?

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

but but

how could you just dismiss my magnificent fainting fall down that grand staircase?

is there no recourse?

Oh alright then. It is a spectacular fall afterall. Just this once, we'll put gravity back where it belongs.

 

[GaryA]

Is a man-made scientific journal to be trusted more than the Bible?

Nah. That's not what you're asking. You are aghast I don't believe your schtick and now you want to frame it with I am brain washed by science and do not hold the Bible to be true.

Well - no - that is definitely the question I am asking.

Why can/did you not answer with a quick and certain 'No'...???

Is it because - whether you consciously want to admit it to yourself or not - you find that you are trusting the man-made stuff more than the Bible?

If you will put aside all of the things you want to attach to it in your mind - it really is a very straight-forward question to answer.

For any born-again Christian, the answer is - or, at least should be - an instant and easy 'No'.

Why can you not answer the question? Do you know the real reason?

(I am not suggesting anything here concerning your salvation. This is a 'psychological' issue.)

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Well - no - that is definitely the question I am asking.

Why can/did you not answer with a quick and certain 'No'...???

Is it because - whether you consciously want to admit it to yourself or not - you find that you are trusting the man-made stuff more than the Bible?

If you will put aside all of the things you want to attach to it in your mind - it really is a very straight-forward question to answer.

For any born-again Christian, the answer is - or, at least should be - an instant and easy 'No'.

Why can you not answer the question? Do you know the real reason?

(I am not suggesting anything here concerning your salvation. This is a 'psychological' issue.)

Gary,
perhaps you could explain to us how creation is man-made and why studying & observing how it works is
inherently a rejection of Biblical truth.

Exploration and modern scentific study didn't begin in a room full of atheists.

 

[Polar]

Oh alright then. It is a spectacular fall afterall. Just this once, we'll put gravity back where it belongs.

Too kind. I hope one day to be able to return the favor.