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That is true, deliverance (salvation) makes us whole. As far as our eternal inheritance is concerned, by Jesus's death on the cross, we are made holy and without blame, our sins are as far away as the east is from the west, however, we, as born again children, do sometimes commit sins as we sojourn here on earth. The sins that we commit herein this world, as born again children, does not do away with our eternal inheritance, but we do lose our fellowship with God, temporary, until we repent, because God will not fellowship sin.
This explains our eternal deliverance (salvation) as well as our salvations (deliverances) that we receive here on earth.
This explains our eternal deliverance (salvation) as well as our salvations (deliverances) that we receive here on earth.
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Yes. The person whose heart has not been changed, such as the person described in 1 Cor 2:14 who will not repent of breaking one of God's spiritual laws that he cannot discern. Only the fleshy heart will repent. The scriptures are the inspired words of God, instructing his born again children as to how he wants them to live their lives as they sojourn here in this world.
Which verses? I am genuinely curious about this 
Is it when our hearts of stone are replaced with hearts of flesh?
Deuteronomy 30:6~ The LORD your God will circumcise your hearts and the hearts of your descendants, so that you
may love Him with all your heart and with all your soul, and live.
Is it when our hearts of stone are replaced with hearts of flesh?
Deuteronomy 30:6~ The LORD your God will circumcise your hearts and the hearts of your descendants, so that you
may love Him with all your heart and with all your soul, and live.
Eph 2:1-5, God quickens (gives spiritual life/ new birth) to the un-regenerant person described in 1 Cor 2:14 while he is yet "dead spiritually" and cannot discern the things of the Spirit. We must have the Holy Spirit which indwells us, in the new birth, before we can discern spiritual things. Many things happen when, by God's sovereign grace, he quickens us.
Yes, that makes sense... I am asking because some people say we are born again once we believe.
That then also means a born again believer can remain in a state of non-belief,
for... ? I wonder how long. Because they have not yet repented of their unbelief.
Also, Acts 16:31 - "believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved."
So a person is born again before they are saved?
From Ephesians 2:4-7
That then also means a born again believer can remain in a state of non-belief,
for... ? I wonder how long. Because they have not yet repented of their unbelief.
Also, Acts 16:31 - "believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved."
So a person is born again before they are saved?
From Ephesians 2:4-7
Yes, they remain in unbelief as concerning the doctrine that Jesus taught, however. they do believe that God is their heavenly Father and they serve him the best that they can with their misinterpretation of the doctrine.
The only way to that anyone has knowledge of the doctrine that Jesus taught is from the revelation of the Holy Spirit within them. I found in my experience that as long as you think you are intelligent enough to figure out the truths that are contained in the doctrine, the Holy Spirit within you will not reveal the understanding of those truths. Otherwise, you will take the credit instead of giving it to God.
I grew up going to church with my parents, but never retained much knowledge of the scriptures. Every time I tried to make sense of the scriptures they seemed to contradict each other, mostly on the salvation scriptures. I attended all kinds of different churches, taking notes. When I turned 50 years old, I bought a concordance hoping to understand better, with no avail. I was stubborn enough that I studied diligently for 12 years and finally told myself that I was not smart enough to figure it out. Within a very short time, gradually, the contradicting scriptures began to harmonize
When I realised this, the scripture Mark 8:34 came to mind, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross and follow me.
I believe many students of the bible, who are intelectual, have trouble such as this, and are believing their eternal deliverance is due to their good works.
The only way to that anyone has knowledge of the doctrine that Jesus taught is from the revelation of the Holy Spirit within them. I found in my experience that as long as you think you are intelligent enough to figure out the truths that are contained in the doctrine, the Holy Spirit within you will not reveal the understanding of those truths. Otherwise, you will take the credit instead of giving it to God.
I grew up going to church with my parents, but never retained much knowledge of the scriptures. Every time I tried to make sense of the scriptures they seemed to contradict each other, mostly on the salvation scriptures. I attended all kinds of different churches, taking notes. When I turned 50 years old, I bought a concordance hoping to understand better, with no avail. I was stubborn enough that I studied diligently for 12 years and finally told myself that I was not smart enough to figure it out. Within a very short time, gradually, the contradicting scriptures began to harmonize
When I realised this, the scripture Mark 8:34 came to mind, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross and follow me.
I believe many students of the bible, who are intelectual, have trouble such as this, and are believing their eternal deliverance is due to their good works.
C
I don't agree with your assumption here. I think there are plenty of warnings in the Bible that suggests people, after having received the gift of faith (which saves us), can toss it away in favour of retaining or returning to their past ways and the world. Would you let your son be abused again and put back up on the cross to save a person that did that? As the apostle indicated, that is tentamount to what would have to happen, which is obviously abhorrent to God, and just won't. We need to constantly encourage each other to heed the voice of the Shepherd, and keep tucked in behind Him.
Yes, I agree that there are plenty of warnings about turning away from God. We, that have been born again are at war, most every day, with our fleshly nature, and we oft times lose the battle, and are chastened to repent. Paul tells us about the struggles that he had with his spiritual nature (born again) warring against his fleshly nature. (Rom 7:18-25).
Belief in the things of the Spirit comes after a person has been born again. Believing is not the cause of their new birth. When a born again child of God yields to the lusts of his fleshly nature and commits a sin, he is in a state of "unrepentance" (he has not lost his eternal inheritance) until God pricks his fleshy heart and his guilt brings him to repent. When that happens, God saves (delivers) him from the consequences of that sin. This is a saving we receive as we sojourn here in this world. All of the salvation (deliverance) scriptures are not referring to eternal salvation, but some are. That is where "rightly dividing" comes into play./
God quickens them to a new spiritual birth by his sovereign grace. No believing, no accepting, no repenting. A person can do no good works that will deliver them eternally, but, after they have been born again, any of their good works will deliver them as they sojourn here in this world.
If you apply all of the salvation (deliverance) scriptures to mean eternally, then you would have to believe that eternal salvation is awarded to you by your good works. Most of the salvation scriptures apply to a deliverance here in this world which is accomplished by your good works (obeying God's commandments.)
It is very simple when the Holy Spirit within you reveals it to you.
If you apply all of the salvation (deliverance) scriptures to mean eternally, then you would have to believe that eternal salvation is awarded to you by your good works. Most of the salvation scriptures apply to a deliverance here in this world which is accomplished by your good works (obeying God's commandments.)
It is very simple when the Holy Spirit within you reveals it to you.
As other said sure to some degree. Well OT anyone that calls on the name of the lord shall be delivered/saved.