Why did the LORD divorce the House of Israel and scattered them into all the nations?

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Grace911

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I believe the book of Hosea explains the situation best in a story form. The following scriptures gave me understanding why Jesus had to die and resurrect. I'm asking you for more scriptural basis why the House of Israel (lost sheep/ten tribes) had to be scattered to all the nations. And do we as believers/Gentiles in Jesus have to be grafted or adopted into the commonwealth of Israel to benefit from Christ's passion?

Mat_10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Deu 24:1 When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
Deu 24:2 And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.
Deu 24:3 And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife;
Deu 24:4 Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.

Jer 3:1 They say, If a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man's, shall he return unto her again? shall not that land be greatly polluted? but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers; yet return again to me, saith the LORD.


Rom 7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
Rom 7:2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
Rom 7:3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
Rom 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Gen 48:17 And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him: and he held up his father's hand, to remove it from Ephraim's head unto Manasseh's head.
Gen 48:18 And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this is the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head.
Gen 48:19 And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.

I'm purposely pointing to Paul's writing which brings you back to Jacob's blessings on Joseph's two sons.....fulness of Gentiles and multitude of nations.

a multitude H4393 of nations. H1471

H4393
מלו מלוא מלא
melô’ melô’ melô
mel-o’, mel-o’, mel-o’
From H4390; fulness (literally or figuratively): - X all along, X all that is (there-) in, fill, (X that whereof . . . was) full, fulness, [hand-] full, multitude.

H1471
גּי גּוי
gôy gôy
go’ee, go’-ee
Apparently from the same root as H1465 (in the sense of massing); a foreign nation; hence a Gentile; also (figuratively) a troop of animals, or a flight of locusts: - Gentile, heathen, nation, people.

fulness G4138 of the Gentiles G1484

G4138
πλήρωμα
plērōma
play’-ro-mah
From G4137; repletion or completion, that is, (subjectively) what fills (as contents, supplement, copiousness, multitude), or (objectively) what is filled (as container, performance, period): - which is put in to fill up, piece that filled up, fulfilling, full, fulness.

G1484
ἔθνος
ethnos
eth’-nos
Probably from G1486; a race (as of the same habit), that is, a tribe; specifically a foreign (non-Jewish) one (usually by implication pagan): - Gentile, heathen, nation, people.
 
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joecoten

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#2
When a gentile is in Christ, they are a wild branch grafted into the commonwealth of Israel. The gentile church, the house of Israel, and the house of Judah, are the commonwealth of Israel. I know this statement will raise objections, but there are answers. Jesus said, "No one comes to the Father but by Me." I affirm this as true. This is what I know concerning the northern kingdom of the house of Israel...
Israel had been divided into 2 kingdoms. The southern kingdom of the house of Judah consisted of the tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and some Levites. The northern kingdom of the house of Israel consisted of the tribes of Ephraim, Manasseh, Issachar, Zebulun, Naphtali, Asher, Rueben, Simeon, Dan, Gad, and some Levites.
Rehoboam, the king of Judah, was demanding high taxation and servitude from the Northern kingdom. Jeroboam, the king of the house of Israel (the house of Israel is usually called Ephraim so as to avoid confusion), tried to get Rehoboam to ease his demands of the north, but Rehoboam not only refused, but increased the burden. - 1 Kings 12
One thing led to another and King Jeroboam rejected the worship of Yahweh, the true God, and replaced it with his own false religion which worshipped idols and demons instead. He also replaced the Levites with his own priests. Many of the Levites went south to Judah and Jerusalem. It was a dark time.
The Lord told Ephraim that because they had replaced Him with idols and demons, He was going to exile them among the nations. They would forget their Hebrew identity and the nations would also forget it. They would become as numerous as the grains of sand on the beach, as numerous as the stars in the night sky, and that all the nations of the earth would be blessed through them.
He promised that in the last days, He would wake them up to who they were, and would bring them back to Israel.
Over several successive raids, the Assyrian army took all of Israel but Jerusalem captive. I believe that the Lord made promises in Jeremiah 31:31 and Ezekiel 37:15-23, that have yet to be fulfilled.
I saw an excellent documentary on YouTube regarding this subject, though it has since been removed. Most of the other videos I wouldn't recommend. I've learned some things through hebrewnations.com (an orthodox Jewish research group), commonwealthofisrael.com, a Christian group), and b'neyyosefna.com (a Messianic 10-tribe group). There are others, but I've either don't know them or have decided I'm not interested in them. Buyer beware!
 
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ChristianTonyB

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#3
Because of their disloyalty towards God. They went after other gods, even sacrificing their children to them. They preferred ungodly associations with heathen nations, and adopted their ways, instead of remaining faithful to God and adhering to His commands.
 
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joecoten

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#4
It is only in the recent past, and with the assistance of the dead sea scrolls, that this verse has finally been restored to it's original text.
"How long will you wander, unfaithful Daughter Israel? The LORD will create a new thing on earth— the woman will return to the man.”
In this verse, the Lord is talking to the house of Israel, aka Ephraim or the 10 tribes. - Jeremiah 31:22 NIV
The Lord switches to Judah in verse 23.

Ten tribes of Israel wandering homeless
Wandering nameless throughout the earth
Forgotten by all, their name was worthless
Wandering homeless throughout the earth

Soon is the time for them to return
Of their inheritance they must learn
Israel and Judah are not the same
Until the Lord reunites them again -tc

The Jews have been waiting for thousands of years for the fulfilment of Ezekiel 37:15-23
When the Jews chose the name Israel for their country, they did it because they knew that one day the ten tribes would return. There are groups, genuine groups, like B'ney Yosef North America, popping up all around the world.
 

Pilgrimshope

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I believe the book of Hosea explains the situation best in a story form. The following scriptures gave me understanding why Jesus had to die and resurrect. I'm asking you for more scriptural basis why the House of Israel (lost sheep/ten tribes) had to be scattered to all the nations. And do we as believers/Gentiles in Jesus have to be grafted or adopted into the commonwealth of Israel to benefit from Christ's passion?

Mat_10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Deu 24:1 When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
Deu 24:2 And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.
Deu 24:3 And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife;
Deu 24:4 Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.

Jer 3:1 They say, If a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man's, shall he return unto her again? shall not that land be greatly polluted? but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers; yet return again to me, saith the LORD.


Rom 7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
Rom 7:2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
Rom 7:3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
Rom 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

Gen 48:17 And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him: and he held up his father's hand, to remove it from Ephraim's head unto Manasseh's head.
Gen 48:18 And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this is the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head.
Gen 48:19 And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.

I'm purposely pointing to Paul's writing which brings you back to Jacob's blessings on Joseph's two sons.....fulness of Gentiles and multitude of nations.

a multitude H4393 of nations. H1471

H4393
מלו מלוא מלא
melô’ melô’ melô
mel-o’, mel-o’, mel-o’
From H4390; fulness (literally or figuratively): - X all along, X all that is (there-) in, fill, (X that whereof . . . was) full, fulness, [hand-] full, multitude.

H1471
גּי גּוי
gôy gôy
go’ee, go’-ee
Apparently from the same root as H1465 (in the sense of massing); a foreign nation; hence a Gentile; also (figuratively) a troop of animals, or a flight of locusts: - Gentile, heathen, nation, people.

fulness G4138 of the Gentiles G1484

G4138
πλήρωμα
plērōma
play’-ro-mah
From G4137; repletion or completion, that is, (subjectively) what fills (as contents, supplement, copiousness, multitude), or (objectively) what is filled (as container, performance, period): - which is put in to fill up, piece that filled up, fulfilling, full, fulness.

G1484
ἔθνος
ethnos
eth’-nos
Probably from G1486; a race (as of the same habit), that is, a tribe; specifically a foreign (non-Jewish) one (usually by implication pagan): - Gentile, heathen, nation, people.
because they broke his covenant law which had warned them of what would be the consequence

“Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse; a blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the LORD your God, which I command you this day: and a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭11:26-28‬ ‭

see Moses law is a covenant based solely on whether they obeyed everything he said or whether they cast away his judgements and served other gods

this is what he foresaw d told Moses would happen before Moses died

“And the LORD said unto Moses, Behold, thou shalt sleep with thy fathers; and this people will rise up, and go a whoring after the gods of the strangers of the land, whither they go to be among them, and will forsake me, and break my covenant which I have made with them.

Then my anger shall be kindled against them in that day, and I will forsake them, and I will hide my face from them, and they shall be devoured, and many evils and troubles shall befall them;….
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭31:16-18‬ ‭

this then is what they did after he told them this

“And also all that generation were gathered unto their fathers: and there arose another generation after them, which knew not the LORD, nor yet the works which he had done for Israel. And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the LORD, and served Baalim: and they forsook the LORD God of their fathers, which brought them out of the land of Egypt, and followed other gods, of the gods of the people that were round about them, and bowed themselves unto them, and provoked the LORD to anger. And they forsook the LORD, and served Baal and Ashtaroth.”
‭‭Judges‬ ‭2:10-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

this is what they did repeatedly God would later restore them and they would do it again and again just what he warned then would bring a curse upon them in the law casting away the covenant of Moses law me serving other gods of strange lands .

God only kept his word in tbier law of what he would do if they didn’t keep it and what he warned through the prophets he would do if hey didn’t repent when the messiah came

the last straw was crucifying Jesus that cursed thier covenant and caused a seperation between God and people through Jesus now he is reconciling all people to God not only israel but all nations who believe in him

but when he gave the law he plainly states repeatedly it’s a blessing for you when you enter the promised land if you obey my law and keep the commands in it but it’s a certain curse if you break it I will destroy you from off the land of promise and make a covenant with other nations who didn’t know me like you did

That cursed the earth again like Adam when they broke the covenant law of Moses , it not only cursed israel but the earth

“The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant. Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left. The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly. The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭24:5-6, 19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬


if you read the conditions on Israel in the law near the end of the books of Deuteronomy , exodus , numbers , Leviticus and how thier actions would be either a blessing for them or thier disobedience a terrible curse for them

it will answer your question he just kept his warning in the law of what would happen if they rebelled and wouldn’t repent . Godnis always going to do that
 
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joecoten

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I am so tired of the unmerciful attitude of some who claim the name of Yeshua the Jew, who seem to delight in highlighting the sins of the Hebrew race, as though the gentiles are somehow superior. I call this anti-semitism, aka racism.
God is not done with Israel.
 

JaumeJ

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Israel is our Father's Original Flock. Gentiles are His other Flock. The Good Shepherd has bruoght both together, or rather the other flock has been made part of the Original.
Of course, our Father is not finished with Israel, but it is made now of all who come to Yeshua Jesus.
The writings concerning this are fairly easy to understand.
Anyone using beig Saved by the Lamb of god as an excuse to discriminate agains Jews or Israel is confused at best.
 
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Where does it say God divorced them? I am trying to sorta follow this thread, but I’m not seeing how they were divorced. :unsure:
 
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ChristianTonyB

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#9
I am so tired of the unmerciful attitude of some who claim the name of Yeshua the Jew, who seem to delight in highlighting the sins of the Hebrew race, as though the gentiles are somehow superior. I call this anti-semitism, aka racism.
God is not done with Israel.
The true Israel of God is the one that believes in and follows Jesus. God fulfilled all His promises to Israel through sacrificing His Son for them, thus providing them a way out once and for all from their bondage to the flesh and sin. What more can God do for them? The most merciful thing we can do for ‘human Israel‘ is to warn them of these facts, and hopefully encourage them to join spiritual Israel, ie the true Israel. We need to make them mindful of those facts. Indeed, in certain ways that is happening all the time. Unfortunately, like much of the rest of world, human Israel is standing on hard ground and the seed just bounces off and feeds the birds.

We Christians should focus more on the welfare of our brothers and sisters in the Lord than we are, as well as being concerned for the lost in any race. Jesus will not be impressed by us going out throwing seed everywhere, whilst our own house is left in disarray.
 

Grace911

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Where does it say God divorced them? I am trying to sorta follow this thread, but I’m not seeing how they were divorced. :unsure:
Line upon line, precept upon precept. Start with the understanding under the first 3 Kings (Saul, David, Solomon) there was one king over all 12 tribes. The tribes divided into two Kingdoms and became House of Israel and House of Judah. Both houses were adulterous, but God divorced House of Israel with the intentions of one day remarrying her. Below is just a few scriptures regarding divorce and remarriage after the law of death takes place. (Note Torah has many laws but there is only one law that God showed how He planned to remarry His divorced wife without breaking His own Law on Divorce and Remarriage.

Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

Jer_3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

Eze_28:25 Thus saith the Lord GOD; When I shall have gathered the house of Israel from the people among whom they are scattered, and shall be sanctified in them in the sight of the heathen, then shall they dwell in their land that I have given to my servant Jacob.

Jer_31:10 Hear the word of the LORD, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock.

Jer_29:14 And I will be found of you, saith the LORD: and I will turn away your captivity, and I will gather you from all the nations, and from all the places whither I have driven you, saith the LORD; and I will bring you again into the place whence I caused you to be carried away captive.

Jer 3:1 They say, If a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man's, shall he return unto her again? shall not that land be greatly polluted? but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers; yet return again to me, saith the LORD.

Laws concerning Divorce from the Torah
Jeremiah could not understand how the LORD could break His own laws and yet still remarry backsliding House of Israel.


Deu 24:1 When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
Deu 24:2 And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.
Deu 24:3 And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife;
Deu 24:4 Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.

However, Apostle Paul understood this massive MYSTERY.

Released from the Law of Divorce


Rom 7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
Rom 7:2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
Rom 7:3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
Rom 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

That is the GOSPEL. How God is able to take back the adulterous House of Israel without breaking His own law. God came to us in the flesh (Immanuel God with us), proved He and the Father are ONE LORD, willingly died so that He could resurrect so that adulterous wife can remarry her first husband because of this law in Torah.

Jesus said "I have only come for the lost sheep of the House of Israel." Matthew 15:24

Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. <--- only the ten tribes/not Judah and Benjamin
Mat 10:7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

What I have shared above is the short version of the true gospel .... that the two houses (House of Israel and House of Judah) through Christ now have to opportunity to be restored back to one Kingdom very very soon in our future.

Eze_37:16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:
Eze_37:17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.
Eze_37:19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand. <----- The True Gospel Is One King over all twelve tribes. (Hint: the "church" is not separate from these tribes and the New Testament is just commentary of the Old Testatment.
 
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joecoten

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#11
Israel is our Father's Original Flock. Gentiles are His other Flock. The Good Shepherd has bruoght both together, or rather the other flock has been made part of the Original.
Of course, our Father is not finished with Israel, but it is made now of all who come to Yeshua Jesus.
The writings concerning this are fairly easy to understand.
Anyone using beig Saved by the Lamb of god as an excuse to discriminate agains Jews or Israel is confused at best.
And yet many do.
 
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joecoten

Guest
#12
Line upon line, precept upon precept. Start with the understanding under the first 3 Kings (Saul, David, Solomon) there was one king over all 12 tribes. The tribes divided into two Kingdoms and became House of Israel and House of Judah. Both houses were adulterous, but God divorced House of Israel with the intentions of one day remarrying her. Below is just a few scriptures regarding divorce and remarriage after the law of death takes place. (Note Torah has many laws but there is only one law that God showed how He planned to remarry His divorced wife without breaking His own Law on Divorce and Remarriage.

Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

Jer_3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

Eze_28:25 Thus saith the Lord GOD; When I shall have gathered the house of Israel from the people among whom they are scattered, and shall be sanctified in them in the sight of the heathen, then shall they dwell in their land that I have given to my servant Jacob.

Jer_31:10 Hear the word of the LORD, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock.

Jer_29:14 And I will be found of you, saith the LORD: and I will turn away your captivity, and I will gather you from all the nations, and from all the places whither I have driven you, saith the LORD; and I will bring you again into the place whence I caused you to be carried away captive.

Jer 3:1 They say, If a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man's, shall he return unto her again? shall not that land be greatly polluted? but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers; yet return again to me, saith the LORD.

Laws concerning Divorce from the Torah
Jeremiah could not understand how the LORD could break His own laws and yet still remarry backsliding House of Israel.


Deu 24:1 When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house.
Deu 24:2 And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's wife.
Deu 24:3 And if the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth it in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her to be his wife;
Deu 24:4 Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that is abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance.

However, Apostle Paul understood this massive MYSTERY.

Released from the Law of Divorce

Rom 7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
Rom 7:2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
Rom 7:3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
Rom 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

That is the GOSPEL. How God is able to take back the adulterous House of Israel without breaking His own law. God came to us in the flesh (Immanuel God with us), proved He and the Father are ONE LORD, willingly died so that He could resurrect so that adulterous wife can remarry her first husband because of this law in Torah.

Jesus said "I have only come for the lost sheep of the House of Israel." Matthew 15:24

Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. <--- only the ten tribes/not Judah and Benjamin
Mat 10:7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

What I have shared above is the short version of the true gospel .... that the two houses (House of Israel and House of Judah) through Christ now have to opportunity to be restored back to one Kingdom very very soon in our future.

Eze_37:16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:
Eze_37:17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.
Eze_37:19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand. <----- The True Gospel Is One King over all twelve tribes. (Hint: the "church" is not separate from these tribes and the New Testament is just commentary of the Old Testatment.
Amen.
 

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I am so tired of the unmerciful attitude of some who claim the name of Yeshua the Jew, who seem to delight in highlighting the sins of the Hebrew race, as though the gentiles are somehow superior. I call this anti-semitism, aka racism.
God is not done with Israel.
real question is how did you find out you were of the tribe of levi. which is impossible. did you go to one of those british israelism or blakc hebrew israelite websites that just make claims without evidence? or take a dna test? i did a dna test and i had ashkenazi jew on it.
 

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I am so tired of the unmerciful attitude of some who claim the name of Yeshua the Jew, who seem to delight in highlighting the sins of the Hebrew race, as though the gentiles are somehow superior. I call this anti-semitism, aka racism.
God is not done with Israel.
Disagree the attitude of Christians ( never mind the few radicals) of the Jew is racism. The Jewish religion is antichrist and Israel ,today, is antichrist. It is not racism.

2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
2Jn 1:8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jn 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

If/when a person becomes Christian , nationality, race, ethnicity, origin, abode, skin colour, none of that should matter. We according to Scripture are ONE in Christ.

Rahab and Ruth were not Jewish .
 

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Regarding the question in the Title of the OP:

Disobedience
 
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Disagree the attitude of Christians ( never mind the few radicals) of the Jew is racism. The Jewish religion is antichrist and Israel ,today, is antichrist. It is not racism.

2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
2Jn 1:8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jn 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

If/when a person becomes Christian , nationality, race, ethnicity, origin, abode, skin colour, none of that should matter. We according to Scripture are ONE in Christ.

Rahab and Ruth were not Jewish .
I wouldn't call Jewish groups like One For Israel anti-Christ. There is a revival happening among Jews. Christianity is a Jewish religion.
I said some.
One in Christ, but male and female are different.
God's promises to Israel stand.
 

Beckie

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I wouldn't call Jewish groups like One For Israel anti-Christ. There is a revival happening among Jews. Christianity is a Jewish religion.
I said some.
One in Christ, but male and female are different.
God's promises to Israel stand.
Notice i said the "Jewish religion".
Great i hope there is a great revival across the whole of God's creation. No Christianity is not a Jewish religion. Christians worship the Christ . Huge difference. Judaism is antichrist according to the Scriptures.

1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
1Jn 2:24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.

1Jn 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
1Jn 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
1Jn 4:5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1Jn 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

again;
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
2Jn 1:8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jn 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deed
 
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Notice i said the "Jewish religion".
Great i hope there is a great revival across the whole of God's creation. No Christianity is not a Jewish religion. Christians worship the Christ . Huge difference. Judaism is antichrist according to the Scriptures.

1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
1Jn 2:24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.

1Jn 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
1Jn 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
1Jn 4:5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.
1Jn 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

again;
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
2Jn 1:8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jn 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deed
I don't know about you or your religious traditions, but I am part of the commonwealth of Israel, which includes the gentile ecclesia, or congregation, the house of Israel, and the house of Judah. Shalom.
 

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I don't know about you or your religious traditions, but I am part of the commonwealth of Israel, which includes the gentile ecclesia, or congregation, the house of Israel, and the house of Judah. Shalom.
I notice the pride in the post . No surprise you did not include Jesus . As for Christians we are children of the King of Kings. We are of the House of the Lord.
 
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I notice the pride in the post . No surprise you did not include Jesus . As for Christians we are children of the King of Kings. We are of the House of the Lord.
I told you the truth. Make of it what you will.