What is Scripture?
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"Derail" your thread?
Listen, pal, you're so far off the tracks right now that the fire trucks and ambulances are on their way.
Rather than "derail" anything, I'm trying to help you to see the absolute folly of your position and the certain judgment that you're going to face for trying to convince people that the New Testament isn't scripture.
You're being inspired by Satan.
That's reality.
Listen, pal, you're so far off the tracks right now that the fire trucks and ambulances are on their way.
Rather than "derail" anything, I'm trying to help you to see the absolute folly of your position and the certain judgment that you're going to face for trying to convince people that the New Testament isn't scripture.
You're being inspired by Satan.
That's reality.
I never said I believe the New Testament isn’t scripture.
Actually I agreed with someone who called it scripture.
I am just saying the Bible never refers to the New Testament as scripture and from the perspective of those people in the early church, including the very writers of the New Testament letters, the only scripture was the Old Testament and I’m 100% correct.
Now you’re bearing false witness against me.
Actually I agreed with someone who called it scripture.
I am just saying the Bible never refers to the New Testament as scripture and from the perspective of those people in the early church, including the very writers of the New Testament letters, the only scripture was the Old Testament and I’m 100% correct.
Now you’re bearing false witness against me.
This thread, which you started, is called "What is scripture?"
You began it by saying that scripture is inspired by God, and I, in turn, showed you that John's writings and Paul's writings were inspired by God. Paul referred to his own writings as "the word of God" and "the commandments of the Lord".
Do you honestly believe that Paul and others didn't recognize that his writings were scripture?
You began it by saying that scripture is inspired by God, and I, in turn, showed you that John's writings and Paul's writings were inspired by God. Paul referred to his own writings as "the word of God" and "the commandments of the Lord".
Do you honestly believe that Paul and others didn't recognize that his writings were scripture?
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Are you a prophet? Saying the NT is not scripture is what is satanic. No one called you satanic.
You are not inspired by the Holy Spirit. A spirit perhaps, but it ain't holy.
God is not fighting some big battle for you here. You can rebuke the truth all the live long day but it isn't going anywhere.
You are not inspired by the Holy Spirit. A spirit perhaps, but it ain't holy.
God is not fighting some big battle for you here. You can rebuke the truth all the live long day but it isn't going anywhere.
Well you are in good company these days. There are some people way ahead of you who think half the NT is spurious. I know 'you don't think so', but your thoughts are not God's thoughts.
Thanks for admitting you did see the post wherein PETER, not little ole me, defies you and says what Paul writes is considered scripture.
I can't even.
There was no New Testament yet. Yes thank you. I am being careful while watching the delusion being expressed in this, your op.
Thanks for admitting you did see the post wherein PETER, not little ole me, defies you and says what Paul writes is considered scripture.
I can't even.
There was no New Testament yet. Yes thank you. I am being careful while watching the delusion being expressed in this, your op.
A bit of words of wisdom, maybe do your research before jumping headfirst into a conversation about something. If you don’t have proof for something you’re claiming is true then that’s just embarrassing and hurts your witness.
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Imma thinking you are showing off all your big ole knowledge and inspiration. It is not in agreement with the owner of this site though, so while you doing all of that, you are getting real close to 'preaching another gospel'.
And yet again,
WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE NEW TESTAMENT IF YOU DO NOT CONSIDER IT INSPIRED BY GOD?
You really need to answer that question since we all have the NT attached to our OT and in fact some folks just have the new
You started the op so deliver the answer all of us NT accepting folk would like to know
And yet again,
WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE NEW TESTAMENT IF YOU DO NOT CONSIDER IT INSPIRED BY GOD?
You really need to answer that question since we all have the NT attached to our OT and in fact some folks just have the new
You started the op so deliver the answer all of us NT accepting folk would like to know
I believe the New Testament is scripture and often refer to it as scripture. Do try to pay attention what I have been saying.
Your feelings on the matter don’t trump an academic perspective on the matter. The fact is that the Bible never actually confirms the New Testament is scripture. That’s just a fact.
Anyway you seem to enjoy digging a hole to climb out of. Why didn’t you just read the last sentence of my OP that says that nowadays Christians regard the NT as scripture? I’m a Christian - ipso facto - I believe the NT is scripture. I thought that was clear and necessary to say.
Your feelings on the matter don’t trump an academic perspective on the matter. The fact is that the Bible never actually confirms the New Testament is scripture. That’s just a fact.
Anyway you seem to enjoy digging a hole to climb out of. Why didn’t you just read the last sentence of my OP that says that nowadays Christians regard the NT as scripture? I’m a Christian - ipso facto - I believe the NT is scripture. I thought that was clear and necessary to say.
In keeping with the thread's title, "What is scripture?", I offer the following:
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=scripture
scripture (n.)
early 14c., "the sacred writings of the Bible, the books of the Old and New Testaments" (in this sense commonly with a capital); from Medieval Latin and Late Latin scriptura "the writings contained in the Bible, a passage from the Bible," in classical Latin "a writing, character, inscription," from scriptus, past participle of scribere "to write" (from PIE root *skribh- "to cut").
The word in Middle English also could mean "a writing, an act of writing, written characters" (mid-14c.), a sense now rare. The sense of "a passage from the Bible" is by late 14c. Figuratively, of something assuredly true, it is attested by 1570s. As an adjective, "relating to the Scriptures," by 1720.
The word "scripture" literally means "a writing".
Of course, the Bible includes that scripture is given by inspiration of God.
Did God inspire the New Testament writers to write?
Of course, he did.
Case closed.
https://www.etymonline.com/search?q=scripture
scripture (n.)
early 14c., "the sacred writings of the Bible, the books of the Old and New Testaments" (in this sense commonly with a capital); from Medieval Latin and Late Latin scriptura "the writings contained in the Bible, a passage from the Bible," in classical Latin "a writing, character, inscription," from scriptus, past participle of scribere "to write" (from PIE root *skribh- "to cut").
The word in Middle English also could mean "a writing, an act of writing, written characters" (mid-14c.), a sense now rare. The sense of "a passage from the Bible" is by late 14c. Figuratively, of something assuredly true, it is attested by 1570s. As an adjective, "relating to the Scriptures," by 1720.
The word "scripture" literally means "a writing".
Of course, the Bible includes that scripture is given by inspiration of God.
Did God inspire the New Testament writers to write?
Of course, he did.
Case closed.
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When it comes to 'feelings', I am a bit odd in that I don't consider my feelings a part of the equation. Just another typical evasive gaslighting attempt to seem I have the problem when you have the problem. I don't think you appreciate just how bad your assumptions are and normally by now, I would leave you to it, but you are saying the NT is NOT scripture.
From your op:
Nowadays, Christians revere the New Testament as scripture, but in the early church there is no Biblical evidence Paul’s epistles were recognized as scripture.
Also you:
The fact is that the Bible never actually confirms the New Testament is scripture. That’s just a fact.
Artful dodge though.
From your op:
Nowadays, Christians revere the New Testament as scripture, but in the early church there is no Biblical evidence Paul’s epistles were recognized as scripture.
Also you:
The fact is that the Bible never actually confirms the New Testament is scripture. That’s just a fact.
Artful dodge though.
What extra Biblical source?
An etymological dictionary that shows the origin of the word "scripture"?
It means "a writing", and that is precisely what the word "graphe", which is translated as "scripture" in the Bible, means as well.
Oh, bad, bad me.
Seriously, wake up.
I also mentioned how the Bible adds the variable of scripture being inspired by God while showing you that Paul and John were clearly both inspired by God.
I additionally showed you how Paul's words were considered by the early church to be "the word of God" and "the commandments of the Lord".
Seriously, just repent.
An etymological dictionary that shows the origin of the word "scripture"?
It means "a writing", and that is precisely what the word "graphe", which is translated as "scripture" in the Bible, means as well.
Oh, bad, bad me.
Seriously, wake up.
I also mentioned how the Bible adds the variable of scripture being inspired by God while showing you that Paul and John were clearly both inspired by God.
I additionally showed you how Paul's words were considered by the early church to be "the word of God" and "the commandments of the Lord".
Seriously, just repent.