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A former assoc. pastor preached that from the pulpit. I talked to him about it afterwards, but he wasn't willing to admit he made a mistake.what they always do- defend the K J V.
A former assoc. pastor preached that from the pulpit. I talked to him about it afterwards, but he wasn't willing to admit he made a mistake.what they always do- defend the K J V.
========= Simple The Rich Man had NO Compassion, NO Mercy, No Gracy, Did not help only critizedSo let's discuss this Scripture. What sin did the Rich Man commit? Was being rich itself the sin? Was having no love or compassion for Lazarus the sin?
Let's study the issue further in this thread. Here's the entire passage in Scripture:
"The Rich Man and Lazarus
19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’
25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’"
So I am aware. I wonder what the KJ-onlyists do with this.
The book of Malachi is a prophecy about the destruction of Jerusalem because of the wickedness of Jewish priesthood and their rejection of the Messiah. If you read that book alongside Luke 15 and 16, you will see that parables follow that book and Jesus is laying the charges against Judah.
"Lovers of money" (Luke 16:14; Malachi 3:8-10)
Justified themselves (Luke 16:15; Malachi 1:7; 2:14; 3:8, 13)
Improperly Divorced and remarried (Luke 16:18; Malachi 2:13-16)
The rich man in the parable is Judah, notice he is clothed in purple, Judah was the royal tribe and purple was the colour of royalty. It also says he had 5 brothers, Judah had 5 brothers (Genesis 35:23)
If you think the parable is about it being a sin to be rich, you are missing the point.
Interesting interpretation and it makes sense.
What’s your take on why Abraham said this:
Luke 16:29-31 NASB
29But Abraham *said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.’
30But he said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent!’
31But he said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not
be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.’”
Interesting interpretation and it makes sense.
What’s your take on why Abraham said this:
Luke 16:29-31 NASB
29But Abraham *said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.’
30But he said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent!’
31But he said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.’”
The bit about how they wouldn’t be persuaded if someone rises from the dead (Jesus rises from the dead later) is like a prophecy about Israel not believing in Jesus’s resurrection?
So let's discuss this Scripture. What sin did the Rich Man commit? Was being rich itself the sin? Was having no love or compassion for Lazarus the sin?
So let's discuss this Scripture. What sin did the Rich Man commit? Was being rich itself the sin? Was having no love or compassion for Lazarus the sin?
Let's study the issue further in this thread. Here's the entire passage in Scripture:
"The Rich Man and Lazarus
19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’
25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’"
If it is a parable, which Jesus did not preface by saying so, then it is the only one that actually mentions a character by name, or in this case two, Abraham, and Lazarus.Its a parable, not an actual event. What it teaches us is that trust in material possession and lack of compassion is damnable. While faith regardless of material possession is saved.
Not all parables were introduced as such. And yes, there is a man-made traditionIf it is a parable, which Jesus did not preface by saying so, then it is the only one that
actually mentions a character by name, or in this case two, Abraham, and Lazarus.
Hi Rich,If it is a parable, which Jesus did not preface by saying so, then it is the only one that actually mentions a character by name, or in this case two, Abraham, and Lazarus.