I don't really have an opinion at this point. Just wondering what others think.
Will one of beast's 10 kings be a US leader?
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Will one of the beast's 10 kings be a US leader?
No, I definitely don't believe that it will be.
However, I'm firmly convinced that the USA is the "another beast" or another kingdom of the book of Revelation.
I gave a rather thorough explanation of why I believe the same my first time through here as "Live4Him".
Here's a link to that post if you're interested in reading it:
https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/is-god-giving-america-up.197885/page-2#post-4508933
No, I definitely don't believe that it will be.
However, I'm firmly convinced that the USA is the "another beast" or another kingdom of the book of Revelation.
I gave a rather thorough explanation of why I believe the same my first time through here as "Live4Him".
Here's a link to that post if you're interested in reading it:
https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/is-god-giving-america-up.197885/page-2#post-4508933
The Vatican/the Papacy is definitely "the first beast" of the book of Revelation.
I'd literally burn at the stake in defense of what I just said.
Simply put, because the USA is the "another beast" of the book of Revelation which will work in conjunction with "the first beast" of Revelation and his 10 horns/10 kings.
As to why I believe the USA is the "another beast", you would really need to look at the other post that I linked to in which I break down several identifying characteristics of this "beast" and how they all point directly to the USA.
I don't know...
But my speculation is that the Anti-Christ will masquerade as the Messiah for both the Jews and the returned Messiah for Christians and many Christians who are not right with the LORD will be given over to delusions and will be deceived by the Anti-christ.. To produce a fake fulfillment of the battle of Armageddon the anti-christ must destroy by fire a great world power that people around the world can be fooled into believing was the Beast.. I believe the USA could be destroyed in a nuclear attack as a sacrifice to serve the Anti-christs desire to fake fulfillment of Prophecy..
Shame you would die in vain for that, not as a martyr by any standard, having done nothing to spread the truth on the matter.
The first beast, I believe, comes in a future event and he will me an Islamic person. Try looking into that.
you cant call yourself God in islam its shirk and no muslim will ever follow someone claiming to be God. 2 thessalonians 2 says the man of sin will do this
that means its an occultic person or atheist cause bible says he is talking agaisnt not only god of his fathers (would mean he is a jew? fathers always meant abraham isaac and jacob and the word fathers when talking about someone's God almost always meant the real true God) but all gods the false ones too.
only christians i know who dare call themselves god are the whacked out word of faith preachers who dares his audience to also say i am god. they base this on the false idea that as dogs create dogs and we are God's sons and daughters, we must be gods cause Jesus quoted the psalm where the judges were called gods, completely taken out of context, elohim can also be translated mighty ruler. makes me wonder why they would translate it like that.
islam does fit the decapitation part of the beast's regime. but if you have biblical evidence that its islam let me know and i want to talk to you about it brother
Well, a common belief about who the first beast is is that it’s Rome, specifically the Papacy. The Papacy is not mentioned by name in the Bible, not the exact identity of the beast mentioned either. Therefore it does require wisdom and understanding to figure out who the beast is. There are many theories and all of the theories refer to non-Biblical figures such as Nero, the Papacy, or Islam just to name a few examples.
Islam does have a branch on eschatology, too, and it’s essentially the reverse of Christian eschatology. I’ll try to explain now.
Is Islam, before the “day of judgement” or “day of the Lord” in Christianity, an Islamic man will appear during a time of tribulation and rule the world for 7 years. This man is know in Islamic eschatology as the “Mahdi.”
As I said, Islamic eschatology is like a reverse of Christian eschatology. In Christian eschatology, the one who will rule the world is the beast, also known as the anti-Christ. Those who don’t submit to the anti-Christ will be beheaded per Revelation 20:4. As you correctly pointed out, beheadings fit the Islamic ticket.
Islam also believes in Jesus Christ. They don’t believe in Jesus Christ the same way Christians do. They believe after the “day of judgement” that Jesus will return and destroy Christianity. Islamic eschatology is a reverse of Christianity. In Islam the good guy comes followed by another good guy. In Christianity a bad guy comes first followed by Jesus the good guy.
The second beast is the false prophet per Revelation 13:11 “he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.” This is the one who comes after the first beast, aka anti-Christ and is known as the false prophet or in Islam Isa Son of Maryam.
Another piece of supplemental information is the “bismillah” and “666” in Greek. The bismillah is an Islamic symbol and 666 is the number of the beast. Imho, I don’t think that’s a coincidence, but rather a prophetic clue. I’ll post a picture of the bismillah next to 666 in Greek below.
In conclusion, first beast is an Islamic Mahdi.
Second beast is Isa Son of Maryam.
Mark/number of the beast will be the bismillah written on their forehead, typically worn as a bandanna by some Islamic sects, which looks like 666 in Greek.
So it’s my belief that by the time all of this transpires, Islam will have swelled its numbers dramatically compared to Christianity and will have conquered the world. True Christians will die for their fair on before ever denying Christ and Jesus will return after the great-tribulation to essentially save the world, destroy all enemies of the cross, and setup His millennial kingdom.
thanks brother.
ive seen that bismillah thing where if you turn it sideways it looks the same as chi xi sigma
islam is the most evil religion in the world today there is no doubt about it. christians hindus atheists agnostics buddhists even satanists can get along in a sense that we dont actively hunt each other down. but you add islam and its like throwing a shark into aquarium, it will start obtaining political power at every turn.
people are mistaken when they think islam is just a religion like the rest, its a political thing as well. and i hate it how people say so is christianity, but thats just not true, because new testament doesn't teach it, in the quran and hadith it does teach that.
one more question brother: how do you believe this will make poeple not be able to buy or sell? you cant buy or sell if you aren't muslim? or maybe you have to pay dhimmi tax?
Vatican is, and has been part of the Beast since it's inseption.
Islam is part as well.
What you will see is coming is the Vatican embracing Islam(they already have) and Islam turning on Her and burning Her to the ground.
"Then he said to me, “The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues. And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled. And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.”
Revelation ch17
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Your question is not framed accurately.
I don't believe the USA is a player in the end times. I believe we have been removed from the world stage. That is why you see us circling the drain now. We're going down, and soon.