The main reason there can never be true unity between Catholics and Christians

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ResidentAlien

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It's called the Eucharist and transubstantiation. If the Jesus a Catholic trusts in is the Jesus who Catholic clerics all over the world claim to manifest in a piece of bread, they don't know the true Jesus; that is, the Jesus who was sacrificed once for all. How can there be fellowship between a false Jesus and the true One? There can no more be true unity than there can be between a Christian and Muslim who believes Jesus isn't the Son of God. One Jesus is true, the other false.

Catholics are even contradicted by their own supposed leader, Peter: "For Christ also suffered once to atone for sins, the just for the unjust, that He might bring you to God, being put to death in the flesh, but made alive by the Spirit,"—1 Peter 3:18

And Hebrews 10:12 says: "But He Himself, having offered one sacrifice for sins forever, He sat down at the right hand of God,"

This is a good video on the subject (21 min.)

 
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Wow RA has found another group to "alienate" that aren't going to heaven in his opinion. Starting to wonder if RA will even allow himself into heaven at this point.:rolleyes:
 
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kaylagrl said:
Wow RA has found another group to "alienate" that aren't going to heaven in his opinion.
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It is the official position of the owner of this site that Catholicism is full of heresy.

In fact, Protestantism exists because Catholicism is full of error.

 
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kaylagrl said:
Wow RA has found another group to "alienate" that aren't going to heaven in his opinion. Starting to wonder if RA will even allow himself into heaven at this point.:rolleyes:
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And in this case RA i correct... Those in false churches should be warned,, If one loves the lost that is..
 
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It is the official position of the owner of this site that Catholicism is full of heresy.

In fact, Protestantism exists because Catholicism is full of error.
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Yep, if you read my posts I agree Catholicism has error. What I don't agree with is starting threads tearing down every denomination. I have friends that are born again that have remained in the church to try and show others the truth. Let's no send everyone to hell because they attend such and such a church. That's my point.
 
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And in this case RA i correct... Those in false churches should be warned,, If one loves the lost that is..
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RA does this with just about every denomination. The Catholics know Protestants disagree with them. Doubt any minds will be changed by attacking them here.
 
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"At the Last Supper, on the night he was betrayed, our Savior instituted the Eucharistic sacrifice of his Body and Blood. This he did in order to perpetuate the sacrifice of the cross throughout the ages until he should come again, and so to entrust to his beloved Spouse, the Church, a memorial of his death and resurrection: a sacrament of love, a sign of unity, a bond of charity, a Paschal banquet, in which Christ is consumed, the mind is filled with grace, and a pledge of future glory is given to us."—Catholic Catechism, The Sacrament of the Eucharist, Para. 1323.

And when they say "Christ is consumed," that's what they mean, literally. These ideas didn't come from the Jesus I know.
 
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ResidentAlien said:
It's called the Eucharist and transubstantiation.
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It seems that many Catholics forget that the Eucharist is not the same as the Lord's Supper at all. It is a literal "bloodless" sacrifice of the literal body of Christ by a literal priest at a literal altar. Which nullifies that fact that the sacrifice of Christ was ONE SACRFICIE for sins forever. Also many benefits are attributed to the Eucharist which are purely Catholic inventions.
 
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kaylagrl said:
Yep, if you read my posts I agree Catholicism has error. What I don't agree with is starting threads tearing down every denomination. I have friends that are born again that have remained in the church to try and show others the truth. Let's no send everyone to hell because they attend such and such a church. That's my point.
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If I read your posts? Well, I do read some of them. I must admit I have probably not seen all of them. I have probably not seen all the posts of the OP, either. Certainly I missed where he has torn down every denomination. I have seen a number where he points out the error he perceives of various teachers and schools of thought. That seems to be what some of your friends are doing also, those who remain in fellowship with those in darkness. Is that what you call sending people to hell?
 
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I think transubstantiation is just one of those things designed to drive rational people nuts, and away from the faith in general. I don't know why else you would insist that it's literal when they symbolism is so obvious when it is understood.
 
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I think transubstantiation is just one of those things designed to drive rational people nuts, and away from the faith in general. I don't know why else you would insist that it's literal when they symbolism is so obvious when it is understood.
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I think they really believe it. Just like they really believe all kinds of other nonsense that
cannot be substantiated with Scripture, and actually contradicts what Scripture teaches.

PS~ by "they" I mean those that teach it, including the popes. Since it is unlikely every
Catholic believes what they are told, even those things they are mandated to believe.
 
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If I read your posts? Well, I do read some of them. I must admit I have probably not seen all of them. I have probably not seen all the posts of the OP, either. Certainly I missed where he has torn down every denomination. I have seen a number where he points out the error he perceives of various teachers and schools of thought. That seems to be what some of your friends are doing also, those who remain in fellowship with those in darkness. Is that what you call sending people to hell?
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I have no "friends" at CC, learned that a long time ago. Not quite sure what you mean by your last two lines. I've been at CC a long time, perhaps not as long as you have I'll admit. I see a lot of tearing down of denominations, and I don't see how that is about to change anyone's mind or "keep them from hell". RA sees a demon around every tree and if you and he are friends, great. But I don't see how attacking people's beliefs is going to change their mind, in fact it will likely make them believe more strongly their POV. I disagree 100% with OSAS and a long time ago I started a thread here against it, I hurt a really sweet lady here and I have stayed away from that ever since. We had a mutual friend here Magenta, that was banned recently, he was here for years. You know him well. He was OSAS and though we disagreed we were always careful not to tear each other down. He would gently point out things to me, and I respected him even though I didn't quite agree with his POV.

We're not going to have a back and forth here. I disagree with some things Catholics teach. There other denominations I disagree with too. But threads attacking the way people believe will not change their minds. If you don't have an issue with RA's style Magenta that's fine, I do, and I have a right to say I do. And that's all I will say about it. I don't this does anything to change a heart, and I don't feel that that is RA's intent. That's my opinion.
 
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kaylagrl said:
We had a mutual friend here Magenta, that was banned recently, he was here
for years. You know him well. He was OSAS and though we disagreed we were
always careful not to tear each other down. He would gently point out things
to me, and I respected him even though I didn't quite agree with his POV.
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I am not sure who you mean. Perhaps Dcon?
 
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The good news is a person doesn't have to stay in a system that teaches such ridiculous fairy tales for gospel. The unfortunate thing is a lot of people love their Catholic families, friends or whatever more than truth; that's why they stay. But thankfully a lot of people have gotten out.

Transubstantiation is mysticism pure and simple. A lot of people like fairy tales exactly because they are fairy tales. They mistake the mystical experience as an encounter with God. A fairly tale doesn't have to be true so long as the end result is a mystical experience.
 
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