The Supremacy of Christ

Gideon300 · Jun 7, 2022

I've long enjoyed the ministry of Bayless Conley. I visited his church several years ago. It is Cottonwood Church, Orange County LA.

I get devotionals regularly by email. The following is something that I have thought much about recently. I'm glad I'm not the only one!

Enjoy today's devotional: The Supremacy of Jesus

Hebrews 1:1–8 reads,

God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. For to which of the angels did He ever say: "You are My Son, Today I have begotten You"? And again: "I will be to Him a Father, And He shall be to Me a Son"? But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says: "Let all the angels of God worship Him." And of the angels He says: "Who makes His angels spirits And His ministers a flame of fire." But to the Son He says: "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom."

These eight verses tell us that Jesus is supreme, above any angel, because:

God speaks to us through His Son.
Jesus is the heir of all things.
God made all things through Jesus.
Jesus is the express image of God the Father.
He upholds all things with the word of His power.
He purged our sins.
Jesus is the Son of God, not a servant as are the angels.
He is worthy of our worship.
Jesus is God Himself.

That is the supremacy of Jesus!

If you are interested, https://baylessconley.tv

crossnote · Jun 7, 2022

Lost? Need a map? Need Life?...

(Joh 14:6) Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Webers.Home · Jun 8, 2022

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• Col 1:15 . . He is the firstborn of all creation

The Greek word translated "firstborn" in that verse is prototokos, which
never means created first; no, it always means born first. The correct Greek
word for created first is protoktistos.

The thing to note is that "firstborn" doesn't always refer to birth order. The
term also refers to rank and/or pay grade, so to speak, and as such is
transferrable from an elder sibling to a younger, e.g. Esau to Jacob (Gen
25:23) Manasseh to Ephraim (Gen 48:13-14) and Reuben to Joseph (Gen
49:3-4, 1Chr 5:1).

The people of Israel are God's firstborn nation (Ex 4:22) and David is God's
firstborn king on earth (Ps 89:20-27). But neither David nor the people of
Israel are, or were, the firstborn of all creation; they were/are firstborn only
in their respective positions.

Now, it appears from Ps 110:1, Matt 22:41-16, and Phil 2:8-11 that David
has been placed under one of his sons; and that's because David's firstborn
superiority is limited to the Earth, whereas Christ's firstborn superiority is
unlimited. (Dan 7:13-14, John 3:35, 1Cor 15:27, Phil 2:8-11, Heb 1:2)
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p_rehbein · Jun 8, 2022

(excerpt)

The supremacy of Christ is a doctrine surrounding the authority of Jesus and His God-nature. In the simplest of terms, to affirm the supremacy of Christ is to affirm that Jesus is God.

Merriam-Webster’s dictionary defines supreme as “highest in rank or authority” or “highest in degree or quality.” In essence, there is none better. The supreme of something is its ultimate. Jesus is the ultimate in power, glory, authority, and importance. Jesus’ supremacy over all is developed biblically primarily in Hebrews and Colossians.

(here)

What is the supremacy of Christ and what are its implications?

(additional info here)

The Supremacy of Jesus Christ | My Utmost For His Highest

crossnote · Jun 8, 2022

p_rehbein said:

Then along comes a JW and quotes…

John 14:28 ESV
[28] You heard me say to you, 'I am going away, and I will come to you.' If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I.

Gideon300 · Jun 8, 2022

crossnote said:

It is God who has exalted Jesus, not Jesus Himself. What He did and said on earth was as Man, not God. He still is both Man and God - "The Last Adam" and "The Second Man". And God made Jesus Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

(Philippians 2:9-11)

Christians need to know God's purpose in creating man in the first place. We are made in God's image and we should also bear His likeness. Angels are not created in God's image. The fall of man is an aberration that God corrected through his Son. Now we all can be sons of God, and, some day, we will be like Jesus. That is God's promise to all who are born again.

ResidentAlien · Jun 8, 2022

Gideon300 said:

When we die or when He appears.

Pilgrimshope · Jun 8, 2022

Gideon300 said:

Amen he is above all and before all here’s another witness to add to your op

“For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding; that ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God;

strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness; giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: in whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: for by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: and he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; and, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭1:9-

really the entire New Testament witnesses just what your saying it’s revealing who Jesus really is to us

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:1, 3-5, 10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

it’s showing us that God was manifest in the flesh of Jesus Christ

“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭3:16‬ ‭

“And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.”
‭‭John‬ ‭17:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus is above all, he created all , he offers redemption for all and to all , all things are his made by him and for him and in him all things exist and consist and by the power of his words worlds rise and fall

He is our Lord and the fullness of the one true God bodily

“For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

in Jesus is the father , son and Holy Ghost manifest to Mankind in one

Polar · Jun 8, 2022

Gideon300 said:

I've long enjoyed the ministry of Bayless Conley. I visited his church several years ago. It is Cottonwood Church, Orange County LA.

I get devotionals regularly by email. The following is something that I have thought much about recently. I'm glad I'm not the only one!

Enjoy today's devotional: The Supremacy of Jesus

Hebrews 1:1–8 reads,

God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. For to which of the angels did He ever say: "You are My Son, Today I have begotten You"? And again: "I will be to Him a Father, And He shall be to Me a Son"? But when He again brings the firstborn into the world, He says: "Let all the angels of God worship Him." And of the angels He says: "Who makes His angels spirits And His ministers a flame of fire." But to the Son He says: "Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom."

These eight verses tell us that Jesus is supreme, above any angel, because:

God speaks to us through His Son.
Jesus is the heir of all things.
God made all things through Jesus.
Jesus is the express image of God the Father.
He upholds all things with the word of His power.
He purged our sins.
Jesus is the Son of God, not a servant as are the angels.
He is worthy of our worship.
Jesus is God Himself.

That is the supremacy of Jesus!

If you are interested, https://baylessconley.tv

I've never heard of him but I certainly agree with this post.

Truly, it is all about our Lord Jesus!

wattie · Jun 8, 2022

'The Father is greater than I'

If I say, the President of the USA is greater than I..

Is he an onotologically superior being? No. He is in a greater POSITION

When Jesus said the Father is greater than I, what happened afterward?

He ascended to be one with the Father, as one.. equal!

He was saying the Father is in a greater position, and there is also the fact that Jesus was in bodily form, limited to the human flesh.

Now.. Jesus is not limited.. and equal with the Father.

Magenta · Jun 8, 2022

wattie said:

'The Father is greater than I'

If I say, the President of the USA is greater than I..

Is he an onotologically superior being? No. He is in a greater POSITION

When Jesus said the Father is greater than I, what happened afterward?

He ascended to be one with the Father, as one.. equal!

He was saying the Father is in a greater position, and there is also the fact that Jesus was in bodily form, limited to the human flesh.

Now.. Jesus is not limited.. and equal with the Father.

Hebrews 12:1-3

posthuman · Jun 8, 2022

Gideon300 said:

If He is truly both God and man then your statement "it was God, not Him" is utterly nonsensical.
It tacitly denies His deity.

Better a humanly logical conundrum than a blasphemy, bro

Gideon300 · Jun 9, 2022

posthuman said:

Do you not believe God's word? It states that it was God who exalted Jesus and gave Him the name above all names. I've stated clearly that Jesus is both God as well as Man. Or did you overlook that point?

Gideon300 · Jun 9, 2022

Polar said:

He's one of the few on Australia's Christian TV channel that I'll listen to.

posthuman · Jun 9, 2022

Gideon300 said:

it's the part where you said 'God.., not Jesus...'

if Jesus is God there is no difference. equivalently, He exalts Himself

ResidentAlien · Jun 9, 2022

Gideon300 said:

I've heard this doctrine many times. It essentially means that since Jesus did what He did as a man, with the help of the Spirit, we too—with the help of the Spirit—can become an "anointed one" like Christ.

JaumeJ · Jun 9, 2022

ResidentAlien said:

In the Beginning, God declared "Let us make man in our own image."
I believe He knew what was going to happen with Adam and Eve, just as He knew what was to pass with His chosen people for in the wilderness they were disobedient, and by their disobedience salvation was gained by the world..at least for those who would accept the free gift.
We are taught come the Kingdom we will be exactly like Jesus, we will not be he, but exactly lie He.
In this regard I believe what you have referenced here is true.

ResidentAlien · Jun 9, 2022

JaumeJ said:

My point was (and maybe this wasn't clear) this doctrine teaches we can become an "anointed one" on earth in our human bodies. This is Gnosticism 101.

Journeyman · Jun 9, 2022

You would also be Supreme over all if you conquered death, so Jesus is Supreme over all. 😊

JaumeJ · Jun 9, 2022

ResidentAlien said:

I understood your pint. I was not clear in my post . I should have mentioned that we will never be just like our Savior until we are with Him in the Kingdom, and at that instant each will be ch be changed.
All these teachings go hand -in-hand also along with the teachig that it is God Who has begun a work in each of us, and that work will be completed on His Day.
God is the One Who perfects each of us, in His time, never in ours. It is a glorious gift all too wonderful to describe.

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