As in the days of Noah... ALL flesh had CORRUPTED itself

[Beckie]

There are books all over the place that wish to weaken the Scriptures. Silly men flock to such to feel important . Like they have the KEY to this or that. It is so sad folks will follow such trash. If one is not willing to trust the fully scriptures to be the Word of God, the i would not trust anything they say or believe.

 

[joecoten]

The sons of God in Job are angels. Angels can eat, so I don't think that it is a stretch to believe they can have sex. After researching this subject for years with an open mind, I can only conclude that one objects to it out of ignorance or wickedness. But that's just how I see it.

 

[Beckie]

The is a good thread on how the liberal indoctrination the minds of people.


Rom_7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.

Mat 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Mat 22:31 But as touching the resurrection of the dead, have ye not read that which was spoken unto you by God, saying,
Mat 22:32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

What would the Creator know of the angels He created.

 

[joecoten]

Unholy, fallen, sinful angels are another matter altogether. According to the word...and my experience.

 

[Beckie]

Unholy, fallen, sinful angels are another matter altogether. According to the word...and my experience.

You have had experience with fallen angles ,, That story will sell books,

2Pe_2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

 

[joecoten]

You have had experience with fallen angles ,, That story will sell books,

2Pe_2:4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

The angels talked about in 2 Peter are the ones Enoch talks about...the fallen Watchers.
I'm not interested in selling books, or merchandizing anything else of the Lord.
I was with another...we afterwards agreed that we were missing an hour.

 

[Beckie]

The angels talked about in 2 Peter are the ones Enoch talks about...the fallen Watchers.
I'm not interested in selling books, or merchandizing anything else of the Lord.
I was with another...we afterwards agreed that we were missing an hour.

you made the statement ok believe what you wish.

 

[joecoten]

you made the statement ok believe what you wish.

I believe what I know. A narrow mind is a limited perspective.

 

[Beckie]

So liberal seems a shame to me

 

[joecoten]

Me too!

 

[posthuman]

why do I believe this issue is so important? Because Jesus said in the end days things would be like in the days of Noah. I contend that we are living in the end days, and are doing the same things that that led God to destroy the world

Also as in the days of Lot - Luke 17:27-28
Christ puts the two together - we should too.

So the days of Noah have an equivalence with the days of Lot; the world was doing the same things, and will do the same things again.

 

[Aaron56]

I think people don't understand that not all humans are children of God. All are creations of God, but you only become a son by becoming born again.

Indeed. Some are the children of the devil.

A “son” projects the image and likeness of his father.

 

[Aaron56]

Oh. BTW, we have to exclude Job himself from being a Saint, because God was questioning where he was while He was creating.

It was rhetorical.

He uses the same pattern when He asked, “Why do you call me good?” He wasn’t saying he wasn’t “good”.

 

[Aaron56]

I don't think that he was promoting that....
But I might be wrong and forgetful.

Nah, he made a comment about my profile reading “not Christian”.

 

[PennEd]

Also as in the days of Lot - Luke 17:27-28
Christ puts the two together - we should too.

So the days of Noah have an equivalence with the days of Lot; the world was doing the same things, and will do the same things again.

Yes. Interesting that the Lord's half blood Brother, Jude, links what the angels did, to what the Sodomites were doing. Namely illicit sex, by going after "strange flesh".

 

[Shepherd]

Oh. BTW, we have to exclude Job himself from being a Saint, because God was questioning where he was while He was creating.

God asked Job to answer the question "where wast thou", should Job have the "understanding". It doesn't take much "understanding at all " to say "that's easy, I wasn't born yet". My 4-yo grandaughter could do that without blinking an eye. Neither does the passage say that this even was "the creation". It says :

Job 38
4Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

5Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

6Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;

7When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?



Since the literal "earth" is a sphere with a spherical core and full of molten magma, it has no literal "cornerstone", so it must be referring to something else. I say that it is speaking of the "foundations"(which I assume to be the Gospel) being "fastened" on Christ, Christ is the "Cornerstone" and, from God's perspective, since He is eternal, timeless, the beginning and the ending, the Alpha and Omega, the great "I AM" and is already in the future, God has indeed already laid those foundations in Zion and Job, and at that very moment which Job heard God ask "where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth?" Job was already there, one of those sons of God, shouting for joy. That is a fact. The reason Job did not have the "understanding" to decipher that mindblowing reality was because Brother Job did not have the completed Word of God like we do. Now, that makes my hair stand on end WAY yonder more than a silly mis-interpreted story about angels mating with women.

 

[Shepherd]

Here's one verse to show you that God not only fills the Universe, all of space, but He exists in the past and the future.

John 8:56
Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?

58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

In other words, I'm standing here talking to you now and I'm in the past "before Abraham" at this very moment. Likewise, God is already in the future as well and "all the sons of God" (including you and I who are saints) are already there, shouting for joy, as He "lays the Cornerstone". We just don't know it yet.

 

[PennEd]

God asked Job to answer the question "where wast thou", should Job have the "understanding". It doesn't take much "understanding at all " to say "that's easy, I wasn't born yet". My 4-yo grandaughter could do that without blinking an eye. Neither does the passage say that this even was "the creation". It says :

Job 38
4Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

5Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

6Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;

7When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?



Since the literal "earth" is a sphere with a spherical core and full of molten magma, it has no literal "cornerstone", so it must be referring to something else. I say that it is speaking of the "foundations"(which I assume to be the Gospel) being "fastened" on Christ, Christ is the "Cornerstone" and, from God's perspective, since He is eternal, timeless, the beginning and the ending, the Alpha and Omega, the great "I AM" and is already in the future, God has indeed already laid those foundations in Zion and Job, and at that very moment which Job heard God ask "where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth?" Job was already there, one of those sons of God, shouting for joy. That is a fact. The reason Job did not have the "understanding" to decipher that mindblowing reality was because Brother Job did not have the completed Word of God like we do. Now, that makes my hair stand on end WAY yonder more than a silly mis-interpreted story about angels mating with women.

Really not much more sense in conversing with you if you are going to twist Scripture to such an absurd degree as to say that Job was one of the "sons of God" shouting for joy as God finished Creation.

But I'll give you one more thought on this to see how you can twist it. In Job 1, these same "sons of God" assembled before God, when Satan was given permission to tempt Job through various tortures.

Umm... Was Job, as a "son of God" there as well?

So be blessed and have a good night! I await your retraction, and admission that the sons of God are angels.

Prob gonna be waitin awhile i suspect.

 

[JohnDB]

God asked Job to answer the question "where wast thou", should Job have the "understanding". It doesn't take much "understanding at all " to say "that's easy, I wasn't born yet". My 4-yo grandaughter could do that without blinking an eye. Neither does the passage say that this even was "the creation". It says :

Job 38
4Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

5Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?

6Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;

7When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?



Since the literal "earth" is a sphere with a spherical core and full of molten magma, it has no literal "cornerstone", so it must be referring to something else. I say that it is speaking of the "foundations"(which I assume to be the Gospel) being "fastened" on Christ, Christ is the "Cornerstone" and, from God's perspective, since He is eternal, timeless, the beginning and the ending, the Alpha and Omega, the great "I AM" and is already in the future, God has indeed already laid those foundations in Zion and Job, and at that very moment which Job heard God ask "where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth?" Job was already there, one of those sons of God, shouting for joy. That is a fact. The reason Job did not have the "understanding" to decipher that mindblowing reality was because Brother Job did not have the completed Word of God like we do. Now, that makes my hair stand on end WAY yonder more than a silly mis-interpreted story about angels mating with women.

The earth has a molten core?

But I thought that was where the lizard people lived who were secretly ruling the earth by agency of their group of illuminati....

Unless the earth is flat and we are suspended in space on the backs of turtles....

 

[Shepherd]

Really not much more sense in conversing with you if you are going to twist Scripture to such an absurd degree as to say that Job was one of the "sons of God" shouting for joy as God finished Creation.

But I'll give you one more thought on this to see how you can twist it. In Job 1, these same "sons of God" assembled before God, when Satan was given permission to tempt Job through various tortures.

No, here it does not say "all" the sons of God. It says "there was a day, when.....". it was only sons of God living at that point in time.

Umm... Was Job, as a "son of God" there as well?

Yes, Job was one of the sons of God because he was a believer.

And I twisted nothing. All I said, can be backed up with scripture as I have already done. But you have twisted what I said, highlighted in red above. I said it was NOT at the creation.