Many are called but few are chosen

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Everyone who hears the Gospel message is called. Out of the Called a few are chosen for leadership...which is what Jesus was saying to the man who said that he was willing to follow Jesus and become a disciple.
Yes, that much was demonstrated in the mixed responses to Paul’s sermon at Athens. “Some men joined him and believed,” including one Areopagus and one woman. Those were the chosen disciples, right there.
 
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kaylagrl

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Isn't that disrespectful and proudful for a Christian?

Proudful :unsure: Disrespectful, no, have you read every thread I started? Didn't think so. Some things have been done to death here. I'd just as soon skip it.
 
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Those that Jesus confessed that he did not know them could not have recieved the holy ghost. If they had recieved the holy ghost then he would have known them for he would have shed it upon them.

I suspect those who will say to him that they had done many wonderful works in his name were doing iniquity as Jesus said.
Proudful :unsure: Disrespectful, no, have you read every thread I started? Didn't think so. Some things have been done to death here. I'd just as soon skip it.
Disrespectful and prideful, yes. Why even make such a comment except to show off your disrespect and pride. Reading your threads does not excuse your behavior as a Christian. It is not about you. It's about helping others to find truth.
 
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Matthew 22:1 And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,

Matthew 22:2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,

Matthew 22:3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

Matthew 22:4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.

Matthew 22:5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:

Matthew 22:6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.

Matthew 22:7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.

Matthew 22:8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.

Matthew 22:9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.

Matthew 22:10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.

Matthew 22:11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:

Matthew 22:12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.

Matthew 22:13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Matthew 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen.



The chosen
GOD has those who are born to do HIS WILL. They do not have free choice. He knew them before, they have been pre ordained. They are pre saved.

IN MY WORDS FOR THE EFFECT and not for truth

They are those such as Moses, who said Not me, I stutter.
Or Jonah who said Nope and ended up in a great fishes belly 3 days.
Jeremaih who said, I'm too young.


THEY didn't have a choice. Being saved already, GOD could use them however He saw fit.

I could be wrong but it seems to me most of those who are chosen have a pretty tough to a very tough to a killed doing service life. So to be chosen SOUNDS GOOD but it seems to come with lots of trials and tribulations and beatings and torture.


The called - US, WE, Christians
We hear the words of God that the chosen scribed for God. Those words tell the events of what other chosen ones did. God used the chosen to get the calling done.

Are there still chosen today? I don't know. I personally believe the next 'chosen' the world will know of are the two witnesses. I

But who knows, maybe once we are called and we have attained, we become 'chosen' to call others as servants of God. Either way it's all good. If I were to guess I would say if someone were 'chosen' today, they would spend ALL of their time in the service of God and nothing but the service of God.


God is not a respecter of persons so it doesn't matter one way or the other. God loves us and we love God. Chosen or called.
Thank you for your input. I was trying to figure out why God would call someone and not choose him. Your input has given me the answer. The called are the ones that hear the gospel message and the chosen are those that believe it in their heart.
Also, like another poster stated, once you are filled with God's Holy Spirit, you belong to Him and are born again because you have a changed heart full of divine love. Those that Christ does not know have not received the Holy Spirit of God.
I am thankful that there are people like you on CC who are not disrespectful and prideful but are patient and loving in their response.
 
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Disrespectful and prideful, yes. Why even make such a comment except to show off your disrespect and pride. Reading your threads does not excuse your behavior as a Christian. It is not about you. It's about helping others to find truth.

Already explained why the comment was made. The Holy Spirit guides us to truth. Not reading your thread has nothing to do with being a Christian, speaking of pride. smh
 

p_rehbein

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I used to think that God chose those that will go to heaven and He filled them with His Holy Spirit and changed their heart so that they would be acceptable to the Father. I thought that there was nothing that man could do to be saved because God did it all.
From your Profile Page:

Spiritual Status Christian
When saved I trusted in Jesus a while back, but being filled with the Holy Spirit, I believe , has occurred in the last few years.

F.Y.I.
We receive the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit when Sanctified believers gather around us, lay hands on us, and pray over us.........The Apostle Paul showed this in Acts.

Reveiving the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit does not need "years" to occur. So, I am not sure what you were "filled with." However, IF you have NOT had Sanctified believers gather around you, lay hands on you, and pray over you to receive the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit.......you DO NOT have the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit....

Might wanna studdy and work on that
 
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1 Corinthians 11:19~ No doubt there have to be differences among you to show which of you have God's approval.
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Just a reminder that one of the strategies of wolves is to circle the prey in order to attack it from all sides and to bring it down.
Already explained why the comment was made. The Holy Spirit guides us to truth. Not reading your thread has nothing to do with being a Christian, speaking of pride. smh
Already explained why the comment was made. The Holy Spirit guides us to truth. Not reading your thread has nothing to do with being a Christian, speaking of pride. smh
I agree that reading my post has nothing to do with being a good christian. Last time I checked, LOL means laugh outloud. You were trying to be funny and entertain Aerial1978 by posting that by reading his post first you were not going to read the original post. He was also was trying to be funny and entertain you. The disrespect and pridefulness is not that you didn't read my post, but that you treated the post of someone who is deligently seeking truth with disdain and contempt. We all need to examine ourselves regularly. I wish you well.
 
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I agree that reading my post has nothing to do with being a good christian.
I'm glad you understand that.

Last time I checked, LOL means laugh outloud. You were trying to be funny and entertain Aerial1978 by posting that by reading his post first you were not going to read the original post. He was also was trying to be funny and entertain you.
It had nothing to do with entertaining anyone. It was a comment about another thread on a subject that has been done to death.



The disrespect and pridefulness is not that you didn't read my post, but that you treated the post of someone who is deligently seeking truth with disdain and contempt. We all need to examine ourselves regularly. I wish you well.
And you said nothing to Aerial about their post. Why is that? Why didn't you get bent out of shape because of what they said? Because he is a male? I think you're taking yourself a little too seriously. You want truth, open your Bible, you'll find everything you need there.
 

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I think the most important question we need to understand of God is what to do about our sin. It is sin that stands between us and salvation, and if we say we do not sin we lie. I believe we must be perfect to live with God in His kingdom, and because we can only be perfect through believing in what Christ did for us, it is a matter of searching scripture to define this belief scripture tells us is necessary.

Scripture tells us it is our being repentant of sin that is necessary. The question is whether we can repent of sin and have a favorite sin we want for ourselves?
 

arthurfleminger

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Many were invited to the wedding feast, but many had other/better things to do. And God had to go searching to remote street corners for those who would come to the feast.

And, today, many are just too busy with other things than to hear Jesus' call to salvation. Satisfied with the things of the world instead, material goods, electronic gadgets, creature comforts, fame, fortune, etc. No time for you Jesus.

Jesus, we love you and we think you're great, but we'll let you know when we need you. Until then be on standby.
 

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I agree, we have free will, we have free choice. Yes, there are scriptures that can possibly make a person think we have no choice, but these verses have to considered in light of what's obvious—that is, we have free choice. We walk with the Lord because we want to, not because we don't have any say in the matter.

Free will, you betcha!!!!!!!!!!! God didn't create us in the image of robots. Every day of our lives we'll be faced with choices, God's way or Satan's way, life or death, salvation or damnation. When we make these choices keep your eyes open and your mind clear. When we makeyour decisions, reach out your hand for what you choose and know for sure that 'what you choose' is what you'll receive.
 

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Many Christians are 'Christians' in name only. But their faith has little or nothing to do with their daily lives. We've all known many such pretenders, those that belong to the world. And, BTW, Jesus vomit out the lukewarm.

I don't believe in 'universal salvation', the concept that Jesus will save all. That's not what Jesus taught. But I don't personally wish eternal damnation to anyone. But what we choose is what we'll receive. It is God's will that all be saved, but in order for us to lose salvation and to go to hell, we have to choose to do so.
 

Blik

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Many Christians are 'Christians' in name only. But their faith has little or nothing to do with their daily lives. We've all known many such pretenders, those that belong to the world. And, BTW, Jesus vomit out the lukewarm.

I don't believe in 'universal salvation', the concept that Jesus will save all. That's not what Jesus taught. But I don't personally wish eternal damnation to anyone. But what we choose is what we'll receive. It is God's will that all be saved, but in order for us to lose salvation and to go to hell, we have to choose to do so.
No one ever chooses to go to hell. What we must choose is that fancy new car or helping our homeless, or to let God make the judgments about our neighbor's actions, or to build our neighbors up instead of being snotty. We need to choose to live a sanctified life, following Christ as our choice. This is not to earn our salvation. It is to follow the Lord because we love Him.

I don't think we can pick and choose what we believe about Christ, so we can believe Christ has the power to save us but not believe it when Christ asks us how we can ask him to forgive us but we won't forgive others.
 

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I used to think that God chose those that will go to heaven and He filled them with His Holy Spirit and changed their heart so that they would be acceptable to the Father. I thought that there was nothing that man could do to be saved because God did it all.

John 8: 47 " He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God."
Throughout the whole Bible, communication between God and man is done through the Father's Holy Spirit. Those that hear God's words are those that are called by God and have received His Holy Spirit. That is why in Matt 7: 22 " Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out demons? And in thy name done many wonderful works? " , these people had received the Father's Holy Spirit in order to perform the above mentioned works. But in Matt 7: 21 " Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he that doeth the will of my Father, who is in heaven." , the chosen are those that hear the words of the Father through His Holy Spirit and obey. In Matt 7 :23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you; depart from me, ye that work iniquity. ", iniquity is failure to obey Christ's commandments which is to love God first and everyone else second. When we do everything motivated by love , we are walking in the Spirit and obeying.

That's right because Jesus warned us that the road to salvation is straight and narrow and that only a few of us will find it. Many are traveling down the wrong road, which leads to destruction. This is because many of us have heard about salvation but few of us want to do what is necessary to get salvation (many are called but few are chosen). (Matthew 7:13, 14) Many contend that Jesus did it all and now all we have to do is have faith.

The bible says, we must not only be a hearer of the word, but a doer of the word also (James 1:21-22). DON'T FOOL YOURSELF! If we really have faith in Jesus our actions will prove it. If Jesus is our Lord then we will obey him. Even a child will obey a parent, by getting good grades in school, for the reward of a new bicycle. The child cannot earn money for the bicycle, but instead must act upon their faith to receive the free gift. We must do the same to receive eternal life. "FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD” (James 2:20).
 

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I thought that there was nothing that man could do to be saved because God did it all.
Well you thought wrong since the Bible makes it clear that sinners must repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. What God has done is to offer salvation to all through Christ.
 
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Free will, you betcha!!!!!!!!!!! God didn't create us in the image of robots. Every day of our lives we'll be faced with choices, God's way or Satan's way, life or death, salvation or damnation. When we make these choices keep your eyes open and your mind clear. When we makeyour decisions, reach out your hand for what you choose and know for sure that 'what you choose' is what you'll receive.
Yes, we have free will, and theologically Adam and Eve chose evil over good, but I respectfully disagree, because in today's dystopia, right is wrong, wrong is right, choosing God through Jesus is a choice, and it's a very hard choice; choosing evil, on the other hand, is natural. Without God, there's no moral compass to restrict evil desire. Any kid without proper discipline and education will naturally grow into a little devil.
 
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I think the most important question we need to understand of God is what to do about our sin. It is sin that stands between us and salvation, and if we say we do not sin we lie. I believe we must be perfect to live with God in His kingdom, and because we can only be perfect through believing in what Christ did for us, it is a matter of searching scripture to define this belief scripture tells us is necessary.

Scripture tells us it is our being repentant of sin that is necessary. The question is whether we can repent of sin and have a favorite sin we want for ourselves?
We have difficulty obeying the letter of the Law , so Christ made it easy for us by introducing the Spirit of the Law to us. Christ's commandments are to love God first and everyone else second ( including your enemies). This kind of love comes not from ourselves but from the Holy Spirit who fills our hearts with it. Nothing that we do matters if this divine love is not there. If it is there, then everything we do or think is motivated by this love and we are obeying the Spirit of the Law and are lead by the Holy Spirit to love God and strive to do His will and to treat everyone with love and respect.
 
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