Why do men and women hate each other?

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Hormones can cause anger, as you noted with PMS. While men have less cyclical and more constant hormones, that does not mean that their hormones don't contribute to anger in some ways. I don't think it is fair to give women and not men a hormonal pass.

Now hormones are not an excuse to hit others or be wrathful of course. We are supposed to be the master of our bodies, not the slave. But I think if everyone spent a few weeks as the opposite sex they would understand a lot better.
I feel like a big, ugly, mean, hairy woman today! Thanks LGBTQ :p
 

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Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned

but I'm thinking what about the men
 

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QUANTUM LEAP

The episode where the guy found himself in a womans body
 

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Okay so obviously not all of them hate each other...but a good portion of people online and especially on sites like Reddit and Youtube seem to form these two groups of people: one for men and one for women. A lot of the time the content/posts these groups make are to talk trash about the opposite sex.

For example, MGTOW and Red Pill groups claim that all women are the same and that they shouldn't be trusted because they just want money. Some of these guys advise younger men to not even bother with marriage because the woman usually initiates a divorce and takes the children with her along with his money. Guys in these groups say women over 30 are worthless.

There are women groups like the one above that pretty much say the same thing but of men. Again, they tell young women not to get married or have babies because men don't help with housework or they cannot meet their emotional needs. They sometimes poke fun at men who cannot do things around the house. Women in these groups talk trash about short men.

This type of thinking is toxic and unhealthy but I see it everyday online and sometimes even in person. :cry:

Why is this happening? Why are people so angry against the opposite gender? Is there a way to fix this type of thinking?
Interesting question maam. You sure like to ask the easy ones don't ya.....LOL In all honest I like when questions are asked that are complex and is more than any one thing. After reading some of the other replies don't want to repeat the good analysis done and replies given.

So with that said will reply from a different angle which while it may not be the primary reason. It is just one of the straw that broke the camels back.

There is a saying that goes " Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. Weak men create hard times"

However, this is not just a indictment on men but all of us and our western society as a whole. We are a drive thru instant have society. To the point of ridiculous you can finance a hamburger in any drive thru by paying with credit. We have created a society that everything you want, has to be delivered by yesterday.

Men once needed women to cook for a hot meal when they came home from work. Who needs a woman when you can get a meal in 5 minutes from your microwave. Women needed men to provide resources. Now they can earn the resources they need.

For most of written history men and women needed each other because one had what the other needed. So it created a reliance upon each other and having to be on the same page and work together as a team. Like the old saying men love women, women love babies, and babies love puppies.

So a whole bunch of responsibilities came with the simple dynamic of a man and a woman and the family unit they would create from what walks on two to what walks on four.

Both men and women had a active role in keeping life going. Women birthed the new life and the men sustained the life. Men did so by making sure that shelter was provided and food to be eaten so life kept going. Both had a role and each was as important as the others as it took two.

Easy times brings forgetting. We as Christians are giving such examples. Deut 8:9-18 says, 9A land wherein thou shalt eat bread without scarceness, thou shalt not lack any thing in it; a land whose stones are iron, and out of whose hills thou mayest dig brass. 10When thou hast eaten and art full, then thou shalt bless the LORD thy God for the good land which he hath given thee.

11Beware that thou forget not the LORD thy God, in not keeping his commandments, and his judgments, and his statutes, which I command thee this day: 12Lest when thou hast eaten and art full, and hast built goodly houses, and dwelt therein; 13And when thy herds and thy flocks multiply, and thy silver and thy gold is multiplied, and all that thou hast is multiplied; 14Then thine heart be lifted up, and thou forget the LORD thy God, which brought thee forth out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage; 15Who led thee through that great and terrible wilderness, wherein were fiery serpents, and scorpions, and drought, where there was no water; who brought thee forth water out of the rock of flint; 16Who fed thee in the wilderness with manna, which thy fathers knew not, that he might humble thee, and that he might prove thee, to do thee good at thy latter end; 17And thou say in thine heart, My power and the might of mine hand hath gotten me this wealth. 18But thou shalt remember the LORD thy God: for it is he that giveth thee power to get wealth, that he may establish his covenant which he sware unto thy fathers, as it is this day.

This is just what we have done to each other men and women. We have forgotten from the abundance we enjoy and our hearts are lifted up towards each other. Which makes us look inside and the seek our own selfishness, no longer needing the other for our needs we expect the other to entertain us by fulfilling our simple wants that can change with the wind blowing.

This leads to disappointment and anger cause the other person had no clue just how valuable we are. Just go through your facebook feeds and I guarantee you will see at least one if not more wall posted messages. If they don't know your value drop them you can do better. We treat each other like they were created to satisfy our whims. Neither respecting the beauty, honor, and uniqueness that came from being created in his image and to complete each other by two becoming one.

People are lifted up and it shows only a prideful heart can be offended and is offended cause someone did not know just how much they were worth. When we are peace with God nothing offends us because humility comes with that.

The world is angry because they have no peace and anger at the opposite sex because no one wants to look and see how they may be the problem is easier to stay in anger and blame the other. The anger is expressed by both due to their disappointment how the other did not fulfill their own selfish desires. We here it relayed in messages, all men are trash, all women are trash.

So just another angle to view this complex subject from the fact that when we have all we can need we forget, and get lifted up and then think others are just there for our own selfish desires and men and women are so guilty, that they treat the other in such a manner.
 

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So now with all that said and is more serious than I like to be cause saying ignorant goofy things is my forte.

I will now just say, if I was a woman I would just for sure fall in love with a man like me.....LOL

Ok balance restored, got my ignorance out............LOL
 

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Well this thread has been an interesting read o_O
I guess I would agree with the hurt people responses.

Just to add a thought

When humanity tries to fix an imbalance it seems to invariably ends up being imbalanced another way.

The reformers rose up to combat the harsh severity and heavy-leadership controlling beliefs of the Catholic Church.

You have the name it claim it branch, or the Uber-Enthusiastic, mostly emotionally driven churches, rise in popularity to combat what is often perceived as the old-fashioned attitude of the reformer types, living a modest and quiet lifestyle and accepting any suffering as the discipline of God etc sort of staunch and seemingly miserable branches of christianity.

The reformed, more orderly and often very set and seemingly unemotional methods of worship etc. rise once more in popularity to combat the Uber Pentecostals hype and trendy emotionalism.

The church is no different to the world in that regard.

Whenever we see an issue and try to fix it in our own strength this sort of imbalance is usually the result.

Women and girls were frequently - and still are frequently - seen as no more than possessions around the world. That is just evil.
Feminism was the attempt to fix that great imbalance.
It failed.
And any further human attempt to combat feminism, or the movements against it, in response will also fail to bring about any real or lasting equality.
We are humans and we suck at righteousness as a species. History proves it. Only Jesus can amend that. In heaven there will ne more of this nonsense thank God. Until then all we as individuals can do is muddle through the best we can and try to love everyone as individuals as we are commanded.
 

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Well this thread has been an interesting read o_O
I guess I would agree with the hurt people responses.

Just to add a thought

When humanity tries to fix an imbalance it seems to invariably ends up being imbalanced another way.

The reformers rose up to combat the harsh severity and heavy-leadership controlling beliefs of the Catholic Church.

You have the name it claim it branch, or the Uber-Enthusiastic, mostly emotionally driven churches, rise in popularity to combat what is often perceived as the old-fashioned attitude of the reformer types, living a modest and quiet lifestyle and accepting any suffering as the discipline of God etc sort of staunch and seemingly miserable branches of christianity.

The reformed, more orderly and often very set and seemingly unemotional methods of worship etc. rise once more in popularity to combat the Uber Pentecostals hype and trendy emotionalism.

The church is no different to the world in that regard.

Whenever we see an issue and try to fix it in our own strength this sort of imbalance is usually the result.

Women and girls were frequently - and still are frequently - seen as no more than possessions around the world. That is just evil.
Feminism was the attempt to fix that great imbalance.
It failed.
And any further human attempt to combat feminism, or the movements against it, in response will also fail to bring about any real or lasting equality.
We are humans and we suck at righteousness as a species. History proves it. Only Jesus can amend that. In heaven there will ne more of this nonsense thank God. Until then all we as individuals can do is muddle through the best we can and try to love everyone as individuals as we are commanded.
Perspicacious AND perspicuous. Impressive.

I would add that not all attempts to redress a perceived imbalance have gone overboard. Some have been more moderate... And they went completely unnoticed. So yeah, we still suck at getting the right balance.
 
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Okay so obviously not all of them hate each other...but a good portion of people online and especially on sites like Reddit and Youtube seem to form these two groups of people: one for men and one for women. A lot of the time the content/posts these groups make are to talk trash about the opposite sex.

For example, MGTOW and Red Pill groups claim that all women are the same and that they shouldn't be trusted because they just want money. Some of these guys advise younger men to not even bother with marriage because the woman usually initiates a divorce and takes the children with her along with his money. Guys in these groups say women over 30 are worthless.

There are women groups like the one above that pretty much say the same thing but of men. Again, they tell young women not to get married or have babies because men don't help with housework or they cannot meet their emotional needs. They sometimes poke fun at men who cannot do things around the house. Women in these groups talk trash about short men.

This type of thinking is toxic and unhealthy but I see it everyday online and sometimes even in person. :cry:

Why is this happening? Why are people so angry against the opposite gender? Is there a way to fix this type of thinking?
I think I understand where your coming from. I think men and women have always struggled with communication. At least since the fall, they have. But the people you are talking about from Reddit and Youtube, I don't think most of those people are believers in Jesus. There ideas of "right" and "wrong" are all mixed up. In some ways they are correct, sometimes Men do things that hurt women. And sometimes Women do things that hurt men. But in this case, neither party is following scripture.
 

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I noticed that boys and girls at school always tend to play seperately in groups in school

If they mix it is disaster cos they are conditioned in many ways to dislike each other.

I had this book lovers club in school and some girls had written on the poster for the club NO BOYS

I asked them why and they said 'cos boys are MEAN!'

sadly it is true for many boys pull girls hair and call them names, judge the girls on how they look, and think they cannot do things because they are 'just a girl'
if someone can not throw a ball very far they call it 'throwing like a girl'

Girls do not do the same things back to boys. They know it is futile and so close themselves off in groups and hang out with each other for safety.
 
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I noticed that boys and girls at school always tend to play seperately in groups in school

If they mix it is disaster cos they are conditioned in many ways to dislike each other.

I had this book lovers club in school and some girls had written on the poster for the club NO BOYS

I asked them why and they said 'cos boys are MEAN!'

sadly it is true for many boys pull girls hair and call them names, judge the girls on how they look, and think they cannot do things because they are 'just a girl'
if someone can not throw a ball very far they call it 'throwing like a girl'

Girls do not do the same things back to boys. They know it is futile and so close themselves off in groups and hang out with each other for safety.
I don't think I've ever been mean to girls. But maybe it's because I'm not good at sports. Honestly I think girls have been meaner to me then I was ever to them. When it comes to bullying, boys are physical, and girls use their mean words to make you feel like crud.
 

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I noticed that boys and girls at school always tend to play seperately in groups in school

If they mix it is disaster cos they are conditioned in many ways to dislike each other.

I had this book lovers club in school and some girls had written on the poster for the club NO BOYS

I asked them why and they said 'cos boys are MEAN!'

sadly it is true for many boys pull girls hair and call them names, judge the girls on how they look, and think they cannot do things because they are 'just a girl'
if someone can not throw a ball very far they call it 'throwing like a girl'

Girls do not do the same things back to boys. They know it is futile and so close themselves off in groups and hang out with each other for safety.
Futile and likely leads to violence against them.

Recalling an incident in grade six...

I said something the boy sitting in the desk in front of me did not like.

He turned around and punched me in the face.
 

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Girls can be horrible and nasty, I recall one girl thought so highly of herself but put others down constantly, not just boys.

Some girls learn cos they cannot fight with fists or shoot something, they then use fighting words.
Or they might write stuff on social media and spread lies about someone.
 
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Girls can be horrible and nasty, I recall one girl thought so highly of herself but put others down constantly, not just boys.

Some girls learn cos they cannot fight with fists or shoot something, they then use fighting words.
Or they might write stuff on social media and spread lies about someone.
Do you really think it's learned or just the sin nature that people act this way?
 

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Do you really think it's learned or just the sin nature that people act this way?
probably a bit of both

People can learn to be kind if they see it modelled
if they dont see it, they may not know any other way to act
 

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we know that what a monkey sees, a monkey does

not saying humans are just like monkeys, but a lot of behaviour is just copied from someone else they see to fit in with a group
 
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we know that what a monkey sees, a monkey does

not saying humans are just like monkeys, but a lot of behaviour is just copied from someone else they see to fit in with a group
I think everyone is born with a sin nature and that is why you got to teach kids kindness.
 

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Some of these guys advise younger men to not even bother with marriage because the woman usually initiates a divorce and takes the children with her along with his money.
Why does this sound so familiar...?

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