Romans 11:32, Galatians 3:22......

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ResidentAlien

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Both the Jew and the gentile suffer from the same malady: Being born unto sin by the first Adam.

Both have the same prescription for their cure: to believe in the completed work of the Second Adam, and thereby be born again unto righteousness.
You're right. All have sinned and Christ Jesus is the cure.
 

Blik

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#22
God has placed BOTH Jew and Gentile into ONE BODY = HIS SON = Yeshua HaMoshiach

THEREFORE = What God has joined Together let no man separate - Amen
Because God created the Jewish race through Abraham to show the nations he was God not the idols they manufactured, everyone thinks God does not think of man as his creation, but as separate people. Actually, they are the same, living in the same world under the same laws that are divine.
 
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Because God created the Jewish race through Abraham to show the nations he was God not the idols they manufactured, everyone thinks God does not think of man as his creation, but as separate people. Actually, they are the same, living in the same world under the same laws that are divine.
Therefore,

There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil, first for the Jew, then for the Greek; but glory, honor, and peace for everyone who does good, first for the Jew, then for the Greek. For God does not show favoritism.

All who sin apart from the law will also perish apart from the law, and all who sin under the law will be judged by the law. For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but it is the doers of the law who will be declared righteous.

Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law.
So they show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts either accusing or defending them on the day when God will judge men’s secrets through Christ Jesus, as proclaimed by my gospel.
Romans 2:9-16
 

Nehemiah6

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Not appropriate for a Gentile to speak of Messiah???
Correct. The whole world knows about "Christ" the Savior of the world. Not "Messiah" the Savior of the Jews (whom they rejected). The NIV changed "Christ" to "Messiah" many times, even though the Greek said "Christos". Were the trying to be cute?
 
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Correct. The whole world knows about "Christ" the Savior of the world. Not "Messiah" the Savior of the Jews (whom they rejected). The NIV changed "Christ" to "Messiah" many times, even though the Greek said "Christos". Were the trying to be cute?
But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; - Romans 3:22

Christ
Χριστοῦ (Christou)
Noun - Genitive Masculine Singular
Strong's Greek 5547: Anointed One; the Messiah, the Christ. From chrio; Anointed One, i.e. The Messiah, an epithet of Jesus.

Messiah = Annointed One = Christ

But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, even the righteousness of God, through faith in Yeshua Messiah, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; - Romans 3:22

Listen to the Holy Spirit thru the Apostle Paul = "there is no difference"
 

Dino246

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You stated that you can read the Scripture but you then argue against it.
Is your understanding greater then that of Galatians, Ephesians and Romans???

What do you find so offensive in Christ having only One Body made from Two = Jew and Gentile?

The Holy Spirit only leads us into Truth.
HE does not tell us to argue against Truth but to embrace it and all who have the Truth.
Instead of reading my posts to understand, you have read them only to refute. In doing so, you are tilting at windmills, and arguing against nothing but wind.

Read my posts again, slowly, without prejudice.
 
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Romans 11:32, Galatians 3:22......

Both the Jew and the gentile suffer from the same malady: Being born unto sin by the first Adam.

Both have the same prescription for their cure: to believe in the completed work of the Second Adam, and thereby be born again unto righteousness.
Romans 11:

32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?

35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?

36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.


Galatians 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

:cool:
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JaumeJ

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You stated that you can read the Scripture but you then argue against it.
Is your understanding greater then that of Galatians, Ephesians and Romans???

What do you find so offensive in Christ having only One Body made from Two = Jew and Gentile?

The Holy Spirit only leads us into Truth.
HE does not tell us to argue against Truth but to embrace it and all who have the Truth.


Not appropriate for a Gentile to speak of Messiah???
That's antichrist to say such a thing.

OK, i get it now - if your a Gentile you can only say Jesus but if your a Jew you can say Yeshua HaMoshiach.

This type of erroneous thinking is exactly why the Holy Spirit gave to us Romans, Galatians, Ephesians, Gospel of John, Revelation.
I believe this is the type of thinking which has separated so many from Issrael, beginning with dubbing Israelites as have a theology called Judaism.
It also led to the calling of the children,dopted and natural, of Abraham Christian in lieu of Of the faith of Abraham.
All worked and works together to bring about all the blessings and curses that come by this apostasy..
Our King is Jesus Yeshi Yah. His Kingdom is the Israel of Yah. His people are all who believe Him first and ddforemost, only listening to others when the Holy Spirit is present..
We are not Jews by denomination, for there is no such thing. We are Jews by translation. Judah, or I will Praise Yah.
 
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I believe this is the type of thinking which has separated so many from Issrael, beginning with dubbing Israelites as have a theology called Judaism.
It also led to the calling of the children,dopted and natural, of Abraham Christian in lieu of Of the faith of Abraham.
All worked and works together to bring about all the blessings and curses that come by this apostasy..
Our King is Jesus Yeshi Yah. His Kingdom is the Israel of Yah. His people are all who believe Him first and ddforemost, only listening to others when the Holy Spirit is present..
We are not Jews by denomination, for there is no such thing. We are Jews by translation. Judah, or I will Praise Yah.
Your words are a refreshing Spring just as our Savior and Redeemer promised would spring up from inside us.
 
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I believe this is the type of thinking which has separated so many from Issrael, beginning with dubbing Israelites as have a theology called Judaism.
It also led to the calling of the children,dopted and natural, of Abraham Christian in lieu of Of the faith of Abraham.
All worked and works together to bring about all the blessings and curses that come by this apostasy..
Our King is Jesus Yeshi Yah. His Kingdom is the Israel of Yah. His people are all who believe Him first and ddforemost, only listening to others when the Holy Spirit is present..
We are not Jews by denomination, for there is no such thing. We are Jews by translation. Judah, or I will Praise Yah.
"But from everlasting to everlasting
the loving devotion of the LORD
extends to those who fear Him,
and His righteousness to their children’s children—
to those who keep His covenant
and remember to obey His precepts.
The LORD has established His throne in heaven,
and His kingdom rules over all.
Bless the LORD, all His angels mighty in strength
who carry out His word,
who hearken to the voice of His command.
Bless the LORD, all His hosts,
you servants who do His will.
Bless the LORD, all His works
in all places of His dominion.
Bless the LORD, O my soul!"

Psalm 103:17-22
 

JaumeJ

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#31
"But from everlasting to everlasting
the loving devotion of the LORD
extends to those who fear Him,
and His righteousness to their children’s children—
to those who keep His covenant
and remember to obey His precepts.
The LORD has established His throne in heaven,
and His kingdom rules over all.
Bless the LORD, all His angels mighty in strength
who carry out His word,
who hearken to the voice of His command.
Bless the LORD, all His hosts,
you servants who do His will.
Bless the LORD, all His works
in all places of His dominion.
Bless the LORD, O my soul!"

Psalm 103:17-22
You certinly go right to the heart. He is worthy to be praised always. Bless the Lord Oh my soul, and all that is within me bless His holy name, amen.