Adam and Eve first people on earth?

[LactoseIntolerant]

the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now. Not only that, but we also who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption, the redemption of our body.​

(Romans 8:19-23)​

​

the other living souls were made subject to futility in hope, not by their will -- but man by his own will chose vanity.
they will all be delivered from corruption, along with whoever believes.

By faith, obedience. In obedience, the Grace in the Eyes of God. With Grace, freedom from the travails of this world. Hopefully, the behaviour and attitude in this new found freedom will be demonstrated to the rest of the world as evidence of the Maker so they too can begin to obey.
Seek immortality earnestly, one will be granted immortality by the Grace of God.

 

[LactoseIntolerant]

kept eating?

how long until "life" wears off?

if the tree of life is a merely temporary ((hence illusory)) effect why isn't the tree of death?

This the vision of Ezekiel. The river under the temple.

Ezek 47:11But the swamps and marshes will not become fresh; they will be left for salt.
12Along both banks of the river, fruit trees of all kinds will grow. Their leaves will not wither, and their fruit will not fail. Each month they will bear fruit, because the water from the sanctuary flows to them. Their fruit will be used for food and their leaves for healing.

With God, old age, decay, injury and death are only things to be healed.

See Rev 22:1-5, same tree, big river and a huge city.

 

[kenallen]

Boy has this gone in ways I never thought it would. Let me try this again.
The 6th day creation Genesis 1:25
New International Version
And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so.

New Living Translation
Then God said, “Let the earth produce every sort of animal, each producing offspring of the same kind—livestock, small animals that scurry along the ground, and wild animals.” And that is what happened.

English Standard Version
And God said, “Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds—livestock and creeping things and beasts of the earth according to their kinds.” And it was so.

Berean Study Bible
And God said, “Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, land crawlers, and beasts of the earth according to their kinds.” And it was so.

King James Bible
And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

New King James Version
Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth the living creature according to its kind: cattle and creeping thing and beast of the earth, each according to its kind”; and it was so.

New American Standard Bible
Then God said, “Let the earth produce living creatures according to their kind: livestock and crawling things and animals of the earth according to their kind”; and it was so.

God made the living creatures according to their kind, from earth worms to elephants.
New International Version
God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

New Living Translation
God made all sorts of wild animals, livestock, and small animals, each able to produce offspring of the same kind. And God saw that it was good.

English Standard Version
And God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds and the livestock according to their kinds, and everything that creeps on the ground according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

Berean Study Bible
God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and everything that crawls upon the earth according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

King James Bible
And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

New King James Version
And God made the beast of the earth according to its kind, cattle according to its kind, and everything that creeps on the earth according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.

New American Standard Bible
God made the animals of the earth according to their kind, and the livestock according to their kind, and everything that crawls on the ground according to its kind; and God saw that it was good.

God made all the animals, the fish that filled all the waters, the hummingbird to the great bold eagle that fill the air, The earth worm to the elephant. God looked at it and said it was good

 

[kenallen]

Genesis 1:26
New International Version
Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

New Living Translation
Then God said, “Let us make human beings in our image, to be like us. They will reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the livestock, all the wild animals on the earth, and the small animals that scurry along the ground.”

English Standard Version
Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

Berean Study Bible
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness, to rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it.”

King James Bible
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

New King James Version
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

New American Standard Bible
Then God said, “Let Us make mankind in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the livestock and over all the earth, and over every crawling thing that crawls on the earth.”

Let us make mankind in Our image; that would be in the image of God and the angles. What did God feed His people in the wilderness for 40 years? Manna, what is manna? Angels food. We are created in their likeness.

 

[Moses_Young]

Genesis 1:26
New International Version
Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

New Living Translation
Then God said, “Let us make human beings in our image, to be like us. They will reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the livestock, all the wild animals on the earth, and the small animals that scurry along the ground.”

English Standard Version
Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

Berean Study Bible
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, after Our likeness, to rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it.”

King James Bible
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

New King James Version
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

New American Standard Bible
Then God said, “Let Us make mankind in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the livestock and over all the earth, and over every crawling thing that crawls on the earth.”

Let us make mankind in Our image; that would be in the image of God and the angles. What did God feed His people in the wilderness for 40 years? Manna, what is manna? Angels food. We are created in their likeness.

This is a heresy. We are created in God's likeness, not the angels. It could be they are created in His likeness also. But the bible does not state we are created in the likeness of angels.

 

[kenallen]

Genesis 1:27

New International Version
So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

New Living Translation
So God created human beings in his own image. In the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

English Standard Version
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.

Berean Study Bible
So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

King James Bible
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

New King James Version
So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

New American Standard Bible
So God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

Man here refers to the human being or species "the race"

Genesis 1:28
New International Version
God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

New Living Translation
Then God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and multiply. Fill the earth and govern it. Reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, and all the animals that scurry along the ground.”

English Standard Version
And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it, and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

Berean Study Bible
God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and every creature that crawls upon the earth.”

King James Bible
And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

New King James Version
Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

New American Standard Bible
God blessed them; and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

Notice how God addresses them. He blesses them, tells them to go and multiply and be fruitful, fill the earth and gives them tasks. Some He said to be fisherman, some to be hunters.

Genesis 1:29
New International Version
Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.

New Living Translation
Then God said, “Look! I have given you every seed-bearing plant throughout the earth and all the fruit trees for your food.

English Standard Version
And God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food.

Berean Study Bible
Then God said, “Behold, I have given you every seed-bearing plant on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit contains seed. They will be yours for food.

King James Bible
And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

New King James Version
And God said, “See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food.

New American Standard Bible
Then God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you;

Then he sets some to be gathers of seeds and barriers etc.

 

[kenallen]

This is a heresy. We are created in God's likeness, not the angels. It could be they are created in His likeness also. But the bible does not state we are created in the likeness of angels.

Who is the our in that verse. Who is God talking to? What did the 2 angles look like that were at the tomb of Jesus. As I have said before do not just throw a jab and run. Show me from the bible that this is HERESY; That is quite a charge to throw at someone.
Job 38:4
New International Version
“Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand.

New Living Translation
“Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell me, if you know so much.

English Standard Version
“Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell me, if you have understanding.

Berean Study Bible
Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding.

King James Bible
Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.

New King James Version
“Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding.

New American Standard Bible
“Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding,

God starts this conversation with Job by asking where were you when?
Verse 7.
New International Version
while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy?

New Living Translation
as the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy?

English Standard Version
when the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Berean Study Bible
while the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

King James Bible
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

New King James Version
When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?

New American Standard Bible
When the morning stars sang together And all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Who are all these morning stars that God id talking about that sang and shouted for joy?

 

[kenallen]

I have to run but I will come back to this

 

[Dino246]

Wow. Your contention was that it was never written Adam ate the fruit of life, so Adam was not immortal (whatever that means). What I wrote is that that is disingenuous as the fruit was available and not forbidden. Adam more likely ate than not eat. If Adam kept eating the fruit he would be effectively immortal.

Wow. You really can't read with comprehension.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

If we cannot take Genises 1-2:3 as truth then how can we take the rest of the bible as truth. Why would God say He rested from His work and then change everything. Even if God ended every thing at 2:3 that would still have him forming and breathing life into Adam after that. Why is it so hard to believe that God created the races on the 6th day and He created Adam sometime after the 7th day and Eve further down the line than that. That is what His word says happened; Right?

“If we cannot take Genises 1-2:3 as truth then how can we take the rest of the bible as truth.”

yeah we need to understand it too though no ones said it’s not true. But it’s not describing a bunch of different creations just the one.

the first chapter is a general
Overview “ God created everything and gave it to man “ chaoter 2 returns to the creation and shows more detail of how they were created and how they fell.

it’s all true but it also makes perfect sense

 

[Nehemiah6]

the first chapter is a general
Overview “ God created everything and gave it to man. Chapter 2 returns to the creation and shows more detail of how they were created and how they fell.

That's correct. Chapter 1 is an overview, and chapter 2 focuses on the creation of man and woman, and also shows how God established a relationship with both. Thus chapter 1 speaks only of Elohim (God) while chapter 2 introduces Yahweh Elohim (the LORD God), YHWH being the personal name of God.

There was no "Pre-Adamite" earth, and the Ten Commandments make that crystal clear. Also, there is a logical progression in creation day by day, and mankind was created on the last day (day 6). These were literal 24 hour days as shown by "evening and morning" for each day. The Hebrew day began and ended at sunset, hence evening (12 hours) precedes morning (12 hours). God could have created everything within moments, but He chose a six-day "work week" in order to establish a pattern for mankind. He rested on the seventh day, and hallowed it. Thus the seventh day Sabbath was established.

 

[Magenta]

Wow. You really can't read with comprehension.

Not only that, but he makes up things not supported by the text at all and that actually contradict Scripture

Not much point trying to reason with such. Their nonsense is so deeply ingrained they are oblivious to it.

 

[Live4Him3]

Who is the our in that verse. Who is God talking to? What did the 2 angles look like that were at the tomb of Jesus. As I have said before do not just throw a jab and run. Show me from the bible that this is HERESY; That is quite a charge to throw at someone.

The "our" is the Godhead, and the charge of HERESY against you is totally legitimate.

You want someone to show you from the Bible that what you've said about man being created in the image of angels is heresy?

Sure.

No problem.

Hebrews chapter 2

[14] Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
[15] And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
[16] For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham.

In his incarnation, when Jesus partook of flesh and blood just like those who he came to redeem from sin, "HE TOOK NOT ON HIM THE NATURE OF ANGELS" because man was never created in the image of angels, nor is redemption offered to angels anywhere in the Bible.

Got it?

You're preaching HERESY, Ken, and no heretic has any inheritance in the kingdom of God (Gal. 5:19-21).

You should fear and tremble at this reality, and then repent of your error by totally forsaking and renouncing it for the Satanically-inspired nonsense that it is.

 

[Dino246]

Let us make mankind in Our image; that would be in the image of God and the angles. What did God feed His people in the wilderness for 40 years? Manna, what is manna? Angels food. We are created in their likeness.

We are created in the image of God, not the image of angels. Angels are also created beings.

Further, the image of God is not our outward appearance.

 

[Dino246]

The "our" is the Godhead,

There is good evidence that the "our" in this passage is not God speaking to Himself. For further reference, you may like to read Michael Heiser's The Unseen Realm.

 

[Dino246]

Not only that, but he makes up things not supported by the text at all and that actually contradict Scripture

Not much point trying to reason with such. Their nonsense is so deeply ingrained they are oblivious to it.

He has apparently put me on Ignore... as many do when I firmly rub their noses in biblical truth.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

The notion that God created the universe and earth to be populated is very primitive type of thinking. The universe was made for Jesus and by means of Jesus. According to you, for the sake of procreation. Am I wrong?

For this is what the Lord says –
he who created the heavens,
he is God;
he who fashioned and made the earth,
he founded it;
he did not create it to be empty,
but formed it to be inhabited –
he says:
‘I am the Lord,
and there is no other.

~Isaiah 45:18​

 

[kenallen]

This is a heresy. We are created in God's likeness, not the angels. It could be they are created in His likeness also. But the bible does not state we are created in the likeness of angels.

If you thank the bible is Heresy that is on you all I can say is have a nice trip.

 

[kenallen]

He has apparently put me on Ignore... as many do when I firmly rub their noses in biblical truth.

I have done no such thing I have been away from my computer. I am here I am waiting for the scripture to back up your claims about me.

 

[kenallen]

Genesis 1:31

New International Version
God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.

New Living Translation
Then God looked over all he had made, and he saw that it was very good! And evening passed and morning came, marking the sixth day.

English Standard Version
And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.

Berean Study Bible
And God looked upon all that He had made, and indeed, it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.

King James Bible
And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

New King James Version
Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

New American Standard Bible
And God saw all that He had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.

God saw everything that He had made and it was very good.

Genesis 2:1
New International Version
Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array.

New Living Translation
So the creation of the heavens and the earth and everything in them was completed.

English Standard Version
Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

Berean Study Bible
Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array.

King James Bible
Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

New King James Version
Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished.

New American Standard Bible
And so the heavens and the earth were completed, and all their heavenly lights.
God had finished everything there was nothing left to do that He wanted to do.