The Shortage, Are You Preparing?

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ZNP

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Blackrock and Vanguard control $20 trillion in assets.

Rockefeller family biggest supporter of Nazi eugenics, Margaret Sanger's planned parenthood, and they sent an army of propagandists to bribe every medical school to only teach their students about pharmaceutical drugs. Also to suppress knowledge of holistic treatments that had been proven over a millenia.
 

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Pakistan, Turkey, Sri Lanka and Russia are all in dire straits. This is the kind of life or death situation where tyrannies will go to war as described in Ezekiel 38.
 

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Look on the bright side!

It is not all doom and gloom. Oil companies and defense contractors and Big Pharma are all having a banner year.
 

ZNP

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Bangladesh -- worst floods in 20 years


More lost harvests
 

Lanolin

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the rich man always coveted and wanted MORE just for himself...that is greed

the poor man is not coveting in same way, the poor usually want what is best for their families not just themselves.

anybody who has worked with the poor knows this

Jesus knew it. He praised the widows mite that was all she had to offer, but the rich Pharisee who flung his spare change away as if it were nothing he did not praise.

In the bible there was sometimes famine in the land. What happened was those that were starving immigrated to the richer countries to find food, eg Egypt in Geneisis, Moab to Israel in the book of Ruth.

The starving offered their labour in return for food...it was all they had. The isrselites made bricks and Ruth gleaned the fields.

The richer nations like Egypt apparently had enough grain harvest to last seven years, Joseph was put in charge of distribution. The barley harvest had enough for gleaners like Ruth to survive, and she was shown virtuous so Boaz, looking for a wife, married her.

recall her and Naomis husbands died in Moabs famine.
 

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During world war 2 there was rationing in many countries and some did 'dig for victory gardens' where they dug up any spare field or lawn to grow vegetables. In this way famine was averted and food supply could continue.

Jesus can turn water into wine and feed 5000 with five loaves and two fishes so it is entriely possible to feed many with a few starter resources. One seed saved can grow into many...

when farming you are a,ways dependant on weather. if you have good sustainable practices, regenerative agricutlure, permaculture, call it what you want, there is less instances of falling short because year by year you are improving the soil, not degrading it.

livestock and crops need to be managed, working farms need to diversify on smaller plots of land, not huge conglomerates growing just ONE thing...take lessons from the Irish potato famine
 

ZNP

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take lessons from the Irish potato famine

Yep, most people don't know that the Irish Potato famine was manufactured by European intellectuals.

Famine due to unequal distribution of food. Famine is the result of exploitation.

Land was owned by absentee landlords and charged exorbitant rent. The most destitute people on earth.

The british took the best farmland to raise beef for England, leaving the peasants the worst soil which was still capable of growing potatoes.

So because of their poverty the only thing Irish peasants had to eat were potatoes and when the blight hit it caused many to starve to death. In 1845 a third of the crop was lost. In 1846 75% of the crop was lost. During this time of famine enough cows, ships, pigs and grain were being exported out of Ireland to feed the starving people. At first the government helped out the poor. But then a new government came in with the philosophy that the free market will solve this (let them starve). They saw the famine as a necessary way to reduce the population. When they did feed the starving it was only for those who were destitute, owning no land. In this way those that survived would survive as penniless slaves of the ruling elite. You want to eat, sell everything you own to your landlords first.

Then plague followed (Typhus, dysentery and cholera) just like the horsemen of the apocalypse. So learn this lesson well. So then what did the Irish do? Begging, crime, prostitution and even cannibalism. So what do you do to maintain order? British sent their army, not food. What was the famine all about, really? Turning the Irish into slaves, killing all those they didn't need, and giving all the land to the landlords, elite ruling class.

Americans sent food and the British government imposed huge import tax on the famine relief. This was not about saving lives, it was all about enriching the ruling class.

So what lesson do we learn -- this famine was due to the ruthless exploitation of the ruling class over the peasants. But it got worse, they then evicted all the poor Irish.

By the end of the famine about 20% or 2 million Irish had died. Another 2 million had immigrated.
 

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Good news, bad news, and the Silver lining

1. The good news -- we are building a lot of renewable energy capacity -- wind and solar with 0 carbon emissions. It is really starting to have an impact on our total energy production.

2. The Bad news -- As everyone knows these are intermittent energy sources, sun doesn't shine at night, sometimes there is no wind. As a result you have to store the energy when their is a surplus and that means very expensive batteries, making the power production way too expensive. Or, you have to have fossil fuel power plants on standby ready to jump in and provide 100% of the power, which again, is very expensive. In order to do the fiscally responsible thing we have not taken either of these very expensive paths. As a result we will have periods when we are short on power, particularly on very hot days when the wind isn't blowing.

However, there is a silver lining. If you don't have any power then you don't have to pay for it. You only have to pay for power you use. So if you survive the heat waves you will discover your electric bill was a little lower during those blackouts.
 

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There are three jobs that will probably avoid cuts and layoffs (at least at first).

1. Coders -- Again, this is something that AI can do and will get better at. But at the moment they will want people to work together with their "smart programs" to code.

2. Soft skills -- women who can talk to people in a comforting, non threatening way as their jobs, income and ultimately life is taken away from them.

3. Grave diggers -- Don't worry, they have brought in 2 million immigrants this year who can handle this job.
 

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https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/food-price-outlook/

Ok....
Everyone thinks food prices are high now and are going to stabilize at current prices....that's what the average person thinks.

Unfortunately it isn't exactly true.
We are looking at a minimum of a doubling of current prices by this Fall.

Instead of 20-25 cents per egg we are looking at $1 per egg.

Beef is at $5-6/lb for round or brisket. Expect to pay at least twice that this fall.

Plant a garden, stock up now. Especially if you are on a fixed income. This is going to be a VERY stressful winter.
 

ZNP

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https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/food-price-outlook/

Ok....
Everyone thinks food prices are high now and are going to stabilize at current prices....that's what the average person thinks.

Unfortunately it isn't exactly true.
We are looking at a minimum of a doubling of current prices by this Fall.

Instead of 20-25 cents per egg we are looking at $1 per egg.

Beef is at $5-6/lb for round or brisket. Expect to pay at least twice that this fall.

Plant a garden, stock up now. Especially if you are on a fixed income. This is going to be a VERY stressful winter.
$2 a day

Joseph's Kitchen -- https://josephskitchen.com/

You can buy enough food to feed 2 people for a year for $1,450. That works out to about $2 per person per day. That does not include the "machine's package" which you need to make the bread, still very healthy daily supply of bread. $2 a day.
 

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$2 a day

Joseph's Kitchen -- https://josephskitchen.com/

You can buy enough food to feed 2 people for a year for $1,450. That works out to about $2 per person per day. That does not include the "machine's package" which you need to make the bread, still very healthy daily supply of bread. $2 a day.
Can't help but wonder what opinion @JohnDB or @Lynx (or anyone else who regularly makes their own bread from scratch at home) might have to offer - not only about the 'machine' equipment - but, more particularly, the ingredients being supplied...
 
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My son came to me one day and said, "Dad, I know how to solve the problems of the homeless and the hungry!" I said, "How, son?"
He said, "We feed the homeless to the hungry!" I said, "Smart ass!"
I'm not concerned about what I'll eat tomorrow. He's always provided. He'll make manna fall out of the sky, if He has to. And if He doesn't, and I starve, in a week I'll be dead. At least to this world. And then things get good!
And I won't have to listen to the far-left anymore! Hallelujah!