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Aug 3, 2019
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My words appear to have been lost on you.

All you seem to preach is condemnation for believers, a God who is unable to save, and a so-called-faith which is nothing more than perpetual doubt. Self reliance.

Why not simply speak of Christ?
If you really believe that trusting in Him adds all these things to us, why don't you ever preach trusting in Him?
Instead you really give the appearance that you hate trusting in Him, and despise all who do.
You want us to doubt His power, and to put all our faith in our own willpower to endure in our own works.

All your conversations are about trying to convince believers that they aren't saved.
I challenge you to find just one post where I attempt to convince anyone they are not saved.

Warn others that impenitence will result in being lost? Of course. Convince them they are in ignorance? Of course, but "ignorance" never equals "lost" as long as God is willing to wink at it...it is when ignorance becomes WILLFUL that the danger of being lost becomes real and present. I never attempt to judge whether another's ignorance is willful or not.
 

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#62
fully believing and trusting in Christ for salvation, and not counting on works or command keeping for salvation is smart, not ignorant.
 
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The simple fact is, alot of people believe they can get saved last minute, so they don't see the need to live Godly lives until the end. They don"t have that immediate fear. I think this may caused by "faith alone" belief which gained popularity starting in the 1500s, and maybe even by OSAS belief.
Sadly the thief on the cross is used as an excuse for people to assume that Jesus Will invite them to join him in Paradise after a brief moment of repentance. The word today that Jesus spoke back to the thief on the cross is not the same as eternity. Luke 23:43

“And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.”
That words to day always cause a pause. Why wait until the very end to repent.
 
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fully believing and trusting in Christ for salvation, and not counting on works or command keeping for salvation is smart, not ignorant.
The evidence that Christ sits upon the throne of the heart is the confessing and forsaking of sin (Proverbs 28:13 KJV)

...the evidence that Christ is no where near the heart is habitual, deliberate, known, presumptuous sin, which is the "great transgression" (Psalms 19:13 KJV).