Praying for Satan. Can we? Should we?

[Gideon300]

I once thought as you did as I didn't look deep enough. This statement of John's could actually support the fact that God's loving kindness, His mercy and forgiveness and grace etc. has found a way to extend to even these 3 in time.

There is no way that I can agree. It's not just Revelation 20:10. There are references in Jude and 2 Peter that say the same thing. Satan is the cause of all the problems of men. Even after Jesus rose from the dead, Satan kept attacking the Church, which he does to this moment. There is more hope for Hitler than Satan. And Hitler has no hope.

 

[Amanuensis]

 

[kaylagrl]

People are weird. Most people can't even forgive someone who looks at them funny, but they want to forgive Satan. The destroyer of the entire world and cause of all human suffering. Um.. okay.

The one who goes about like a lion, seeking to devour souls. You're right, people are weird.

 

[one2question]

The one who goes about like a lion, seeking to devour souls. You're right, people are weird.

Yes I agree that many of us are weird. I'm no exception. So that being said I am looking forward to seeing Jesus and our Father one day and getting the truth on so many things we thought were certainties but never were. I guess it doesn't stop us from seeking the truth as Jesus said, Ask and you will receive, seek and you will find, knock and the door will be open unto you. Now that's pretty awesome. Thanks for being willing to seek truth together with me and again for being understanding and forgiving of my shortcomings. God our Father is so full of loving kindness and compassion towards us all and for this I am and will be eternally grateful.

 

[one2question]

There is no way that I can agree. It's not just Revelation 20:10. There are references in Jude and 2 Peter that say the same thing. Satan is the cause of all the problems of men. Even after Jesus rose from the dead, Satan kept attacking the Church, which he does to this moment. There is more hope for Hitler than Satan. And Hitler has no hope.

Yes Gideon, again I agree with Peter, Jude and John with reference to Satan the Devil being cast into hell, delivered into chains of darkness, and 'kept in eternal chains under darkness' for judgement. What judgements will be made on that day we don't know exactly, the details are not recorded. I'm not saying that God didn't reveal all the details to any of the writers of the books in the bible, just that they are not recorded for some reason. This is where the promise of Jesus comes in regarding the Spirit of Truth,
“These things I have spoken to you while being present with you. 26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you. John 14:25&26
12 “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. 14 He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. 15 All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He [c]will take of Mine and declare it to you. John 16:12-15
He can fill in the gaps pre, mid and post bible.

 

[DavidTree]

This is an interesting Idea. I don't think we know enough from the Bible to know how to handle this question. I mean God is loving. He did create Satan. Satan was originally good. So I don't know... I'm not sure that praying for him would hurt you. But I don't think it would do any good.

If we pray to the FATHER on behalf of satan and his angels, we are going against His Will and are in alignment with evil.

Never align yourself with the spiritual enemy(satan) who is a liar, murderer and thief.
that devil will surely come to you only to steal, kill and destroy your life, mind and soul.

RESIST = Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.
Resist him, steadfast in the faith, knowing that the same sufferings are experienced by your brotherhood in the world.

PRAY = But may the God of all grace, who called us to His eternal glory by Christ Jesus, after you have suffered a while, perfect, establish, strengthen, and settle you. To Him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen.
1 Peter 5:8-11

 

[one2question]

If we pray to the FATHER on behalf of satan and his angels, we are going against His Will and are in alignment with evil.

Never align yourself with the enemy.

What do you mean when you say 'against His will'?

 

[DavidTree]

What do you mean when you say 'against His will'?

"In the Volume of the Book, it is written of ME(Jesus) - I come to do Your(FATHER) Will." = Hebrews 10:7

"He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil."
1 John 3:8

 

[kaylagrl]

Yes I agree that many of us are weird. I'm no exception. So that being said I am looking forward to seeing Jesus and our Father one day and getting the truth on so many things we thought were certainties but never were. I guess it doesn't stop us from seeking the truth as Jesus said, Ask and you will receive, seek and you will find, knock and the door will be open unto you. Now that's pretty awesome. Thanks for being willing to seek truth together with me and again for being understanding and forgiving of my shortcomings. God our Father is so full of loving kindness and compassion towards us all and for this I am and will be eternally grateful.

No shortcomings we can't know everything at once. But this is something to be careful about. Satan made his choice and his end is already sealed. We could get ourselves in some bad situations if we are not careful.

When I met my husband he use to watch ghost shows, those reality shows, so called, where they find spirits that have not crossed over. This is something I never watched or believed in. So he asked me why. I said that these were not people that hadn't crossed over, but demons pretending to be people that had passed away. I think I scared him a bit, and then he watched the show less and less. Satan is real and we must be very careful of our attitude toward him. Your thought comes from a good heart, but a mistaken ideal. We all learn, I like that my pastor says he's still learning and we can learn together. Blessings.

 

[one2question]

Didn't Jesus ask us to love for our enemies and pray for those who persecute us? Paul says our enemies we fight against are not flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Eph. 6:12

 

[one2question]

"In the Volume of the Book, it is written of ME(Jesus) - I come to do Your(FATHER) Will." = Hebrews 10:7

"He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil."
1 John 3:8

Didn't Jesus ask us to love for our enemies and pray for those who persecute us? Paul says our enemies we fight against are not flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Eph. 6:12

 

[one2question]

No shortcomings we can't know everything at once. But this is something to be careful about. Satan made his choice and his end is already sealed. We could get ourselves in some bad situations if we are not careful.

When I met my husband he use to watch ghost shows, those reality shows, so called, where they find spirits that have not crossed over. This is something I never watched or believed in. So he asked me why. I said that these were not people that hadn't crossed over, but demons pretending to be people that had passed away. I think I scared him a bit, and then he watched the show less and less. Satan is real and we must be very careful of our attitude toward him. Your thought comes from a good heart, but a mistaken ideal. We all learn, I like that my pastor says he's still learning and we can learn together. Blessings.

Thanks for your gracious and thoughtful reply. God bless you sister.

 

[one2question]

"In the Volume of the Book, it is written of ME(Jesus) - I come to do Your(FATHER) Will." = Hebrews 10:7

"He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning.
For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil."
1 John 3:8

Great truths you quoted there. I'm still not sure what you were referring to in your previous post. But you don't need to go there if you don't want to.

 

[DavidTree]

Didn't Jesus ask us to love for our enemies and pray for those who persecute us? Paul says our enemies we fight against are not flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. Eph. 6:12

We are instructed by the LORD to only pray for the Human Family of Creation = Man/Woman = Male/Female made is His image.

 

[CS1]

But I haven't heard anyone say God told them not to pray for Satan and I've never read it stated by any of the contributors of the bible book either. What version, translation, text, person or spirit told you this?

Our model of Prayer is how Jesus taught the disciples to pray. Matthew cha[ter 6 & 7. Nothing in there even suggests prayer to or for the devil. Prayer is the man praying to God through Jesus and prayer is offered up for man, not the devil. Jesus never prayed for Satan, Jesus rebuked Him. Jesus even used the word of God to refute Satan's lies. We are told our adversary seeks to destroy us.

 

[CS1]

But I haven't heard anyone say God told them not to pray for Satan and I've never read it stated by any of the contributors of the bible book either. What version, translation, text, person or spirit told you this?

the word of God never tells us to pray for him that is clear enough. We are instructed by Jesus to tread on all the works of the devil. Mark 16. Jesus never said anytime in scripture to pray for the devil.

 

[CherieR]

I don't think it's a good idea to pray for Satan. Trust that God's judgments are righteous and just.

Revelation 20:10 states:

and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Revelation 20:10 ESV

https://bible.com/bible/59/rev.20.10.ESV

 

[CS1]

Yes I agree that many of us are weird. I'm no exception. So that being said I am looking forward to seeing Jesus and our Father one day and getting the truth on so many things we thought were certainties but never were. I guess it doesn't stop us from seeking the truth as Jesus said, Ask and you will receive, seek and you will find, knock and the door will be open unto you. Now that's pretty awesome. Thanks for being willing to seek truth together with me and again for being understanding and forgiving of my shortcomings. God our Father is so full of loving kindness and compassion towards us all and for this I am and will be eternally grateful.

all the truth you need is in the word of God. Jesus said HE is the "Truth" the only truth. follow him.

 

[Jesusfollower]

Yes I agree that many of us are weird. I'm no exception. So that being said I am looking forward to seeing Jesus and our Father one day and getting the truth on so many things we thought were certainties but never were. I guess it doesn't stop us from seeking the truth as Jesus said, Ask and you will receive, seek and you will find, knock and the door will be open unto you. Now that's pretty awesome. Thanks for being willing to seek truth together with me and again for being understanding and forgiving of my shortcomings. God our Father is so full of loving kindness and compassion towards us all and for this I am and will be eternally grateful.

The truth is already known and was revealed, you just refuse to see the truth, Satan is toast! You mix nice words with lies, you are quite deceitful.

JF

 

[one2question]

We are instructed by the LORD to only pray for the Human Family of Creation = Man/Woman = Male/Female made is His image.

Did you get this word by revelation from God directly? f so great. Please tell me more. I don't recall this written down by any of the contributors of the protestant bible book. But maybe I missed that one. Is it in the catholic bible or Ethiopian one which I haven't read with its 81 books?