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Zachariah 14. And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
1st Corinthians 15 50Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 55O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 56The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 57But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
58Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
Where are we going when the 7th trump sounds? We will meet the Lord on the Mt. of Olives Where He shall stand and split the Mt of olives making a valley 60 sq miles you can read of it in Ezekiel 40-48 where there is more spoken of about the Millennial reign than even in Revelation.
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And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
1st Corinthians 15 50Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 55O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 56The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 57But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
58Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
Where are we going when the 7th trump sounds? We will meet the Lord on the Mt. of Olives Where He shall stand and split the Mt of olives making a valley 60 sq miles you can read of it in Ezekiel 40-48 where there is more spoken of about the Millennial reign than even in Revelation.
There will be more to follow
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Revelation 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Satan Cast into the Lake of Fire
7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. 10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
The Final Judgment
11And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
That thousand millennial reign is here on earth. What does verse 5 say But the rest of the dead lived not again till the 1000 years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
If you would lay aside church doctrine, the doctrine of men, false teaching you could get this Satan comes at the 6th trump, the 6th seal and the 6th vial Jesus returns at the 7th trump, the 7th seal and the 7th vial. There is no secret coming of Jesus in the middle of the night and millions of people left behind. Read the parable of the whet and the tares Jesus himself gives you the answer.
4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Satan Cast into the Lake of Fire
7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. 10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
The Final Judgment
11And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
That thousand millennial reign is here on earth. What does verse 5 say But the rest of the dead lived not again till the 1000 years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
If you would lay aside church doctrine, the doctrine of men, false teaching you could get this Satan comes at the 6th trump, the 6th seal and the 6th vial Jesus returns at the 7th trump, the 7th seal and the 7th vial. There is no secret coming of Jesus in the middle of the night and millions of people left behind. Read the parable of the whet and the tares Jesus himself gives you the answer.
It ended up in the same place Moses body did. Matthew 17: 2And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. 3And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. Where they in flesh bodies. The dead that came out of the graves. they were not in there physical body flesh would have been falling off of it, they would have been decayed smelly ect. One time event for a very special time.
1 Thessalonians 4
J.B. Phillips New Testament
Purity, love and hard work are good rules for life
4 1-2 To sum up, my brothers, we beg and pray you by the Lord Jesus, that you continue to learn more and more of the life that pleases God, the sort of life we told you about before. You will remember the instructions we gave you then in the name of the Lord Jesus.
3-8 God’s plan is to make you holy, and that entails first of all a clean cut with sexual immorality. Every one of you should learn to control his body, keeping it pure and treating it with respect, and never regarding it as an instrument for self-gratification, as do pagans with no knowledge of God. You cannot break this rule without in some way cheating your fellow-men. And you must remember that God will punish all who do offend in this matter, and we have warned you how we have seen this work out in our experience of life. The calling of God is not to impurity but to the most thorough purity, and anyone who makes light of the matter is not making light of man’s ruling but of God’s command. It is not for nothing that the Spirit God gives us is called the Holy Spirit.
9-10 Next, as regards brotherly love, you don’t need any written instructions. God himself is teaching you to love each other, and you are already extending your love to all the Macedonians. Yet we urge you to have more and more of this love, and to make it your ambition to have no ambition!
11-12 Be busy with your own affairs and do your work yourselves. The result will be a reputation for honesty in the world outside and an honourable independence.
God’s message regarding those who have died
13-17 Now we don’t want you, my brothers, to be in any doubt about those who “fall asleep” in death, or to grieve over them like men who have no hope. After all, if we believe that Jesus died and rose again from death, then we can believe that God will just as surely bring with Jesus all who are “asleep” in him. Here we have a definite message from the Lord. It is that those who are still living when he comes will not in any way precede those who have previously fallen asleep. One word of command, one shout from the archangel, one blast from the trumpet of God and the Lord himself will come down from Heaven! Those who have died in Christ will be the first to rise, and then we who are still living on the earth will be swept up with them into the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And after that we shall be with him for ever.
18 God has given me this message on the matter, so by all means use it to encourage one another.
J.B. Phillips New Testament
Purity, love and hard work are good rules for life
4 1-2 To sum up, my brothers, we beg and pray you by the Lord Jesus, that you continue to learn more and more of the life that pleases God, the sort of life we told you about before. You will remember the instructions we gave you then in the name of the Lord Jesus.
3-8 God’s plan is to make you holy, and that entails first of all a clean cut with sexual immorality. Every one of you should learn to control his body, keeping it pure and treating it with respect, and never regarding it as an instrument for self-gratification, as do pagans with no knowledge of God. You cannot break this rule without in some way cheating your fellow-men. And you must remember that God will punish all who do offend in this matter, and we have warned you how we have seen this work out in our experience of life. The calling of God is not to impurity but to the most thorough purity, and anyone who makes light of the matter is not making light of man’s ruling but of God’s command. It is not for nothing that the Spirit God gives us is called the Holy Spirit.
9-10 Next, as regards brotherly love, you don’t need any written instructions. God himself is teaching you to love each other, and you are already extending your love to all the Macedonians. Yet we urge you to have more and more of this love, and to make it your ambition to have no ambition!
11-12 Be busy with your own affairs and do your work yourselves. The result will be a reputation for honesty in the world outside and an honourable independence.
God’s message regarding those who have died
13-17 Now we don’t want you, my brothers, to be in any doubt about those who “fall asleep” in death, or to grieve over them like men who have no hope. After all, if we believe that Jesus died and rose again from death, then we can believe that God will just as surely bring with Jesus all who are “asleep” in him. Here we have a definite message from the Lord. It is that those who are still living when he comes will not in any way precede those who have previously fallen asleep. One word of command, one shout from the archangel, one blast from the trumpet of God and the Lord himself will come down from Heaven! Those who have died in Christ will be the first to rise, and then we who are still living on the earth will be swept up with them into the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And after that we shall be with him for ever.
18 God has given me this message on the matter, so by all means use it to encourage one another.
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you are denying the gospel, the scripture, and the power of God.
i wish you had just been honest enough to answer me plainly, but nonetheless, i have seen the Truth. who can hide it??
but for your benefit, because what you are currently despising in your conversation is the Truth. the very gospel itself.
Christ Himself.
be converted
resurrection is real.
without it, you have no hope: you are the most miserable of men ((1 Cor 15:19)).
and that is exactly why you refuse to answer me plainly
but all that man purposes to hide, comes to light. nothing is hidden. of this be assured
the risen Jesus ate fish and honey.
as specific proof.
your ((gnostic & heretical)) theological position = utterly destroyed.
worthless. unsupportable. laughable.
damnable.
QED
i wish you had just been honest enough to answer me plainly, but nonetheless, i have seen the Truth. who can hide it??
He said to them, “Why are you troubled? And why do doubts arise in your hearts? Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself! Handle Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have!”
When He had said this, He showed them His hands and His feet. But while they still did not believe for joy, and marveled, He said to them, “Have you any food here?” So they gave Him a piece of a broiled fish and some honeycomb. And He took it and ate in their presence.
(Luke 24:38:43)
this Word of God is burning coals on your headbut for your benefit, because what you are currently despising in your conversation is the Truth. the very gospel itself.
Christ Himself.
be converted
resurrection is real.
without it, you have no hope: you are the most miserable of men ((1 Cor 15:19)).
and that is exactly why you refuse to answer me plainly
but all that man purposes to hide, comes to light. nothing is hidden. of this be assured
the risen Jesus ate fish and honey.
as specific proof.
your ((gnostic & heretical)) theological position = utterly destroyed.
worthless. unsupportable. laughable.
damnable.
QED
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interesting.
did Lazarus stink? ((John 11:39))
i.e. is God unskillful at resurrection?
is that your position?
you assert that God is no good at His work?
you are here to teach me that God is incapable & inept?
God is unable to overcome sin and corruption; that's your belief?
that we need to learn from you that death and sin is more powerful than God?
huh.
wow.
did Lazarus stink? ((John 11:39))
i.e. is God unskillful at resurrection?
is that your position?
you assert that God is no good at His work?
you are here to teach me that God is incapable & inept?
God is unable to overcome sin and corruption; that's your belief?
that we need to learn from you that death and sin is more powerful than God?
huh.
wow.
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The Mystery is in the part of the mortal putting on immortality. While Jesus in his resurrected current form of Glory is indeed not just a spirit only, but also indeed a form, a body, as he himself told even the closest of the Apostles. He is indeed not like the mortal and susceptible flesh, the flesh which was crucified. Now Jesus, who was already the Word of God but was then made flesh fully human and mortal though also being fully God is in an immortal body. Like Jesus so will the immortal body be for all us at the resurrection, Jesus being both the sign and firstfruits of the resurrections as well as being himself the resurrection, showing through himself all things.
It is a Mystery though so very little is totally known about this new form until we receive it. However, it can be known a little about before we also die and are resurrected. What is known about this immortal resurrection body Paul speaks about is found in the Gospels and the book of Revelation, John of course being interestingly probably the expert on this matter. They too thought perhaps his form or body was a spirit only, but besides even Jesus telling them bluntly that he was more than just spirit, that is where the mundane things he does like eat with them and let Thomas touch him are actually quite significant since this shows he is more than just a spirit. Then of course as pointed correctly, the immortal body is not like the mortal body however. It is not quite the same as the corrupted flesh fashioned from the dirt of the corrupted earth, but it is a new thing and hence the Mystery about its nature and properties. This is also supported that the form of glory while it is more than spirit it is above this current mortal form in its nature. This is seen in the things that Jesus does which astounds the disciples like seeming to vanish or blend in unnoticed or make the nets of Peter break for the multitude of fishes. So deepens only the Thunder of the Mystery of the Immortal Form of Glory.
It is a Mystery though so very little is totally known about this new form until we receive it. However, it can be known a little about before we also die and are resurrected. What is known about this immortal resurrection body Paul speaks about is found in the Gospels and the book of Revelation, John of course being interestingly probably the expert on this matter. They too thought perhaps his form or body was a spirit only, but besides even Jesus telling them bluntly that he was more than just spirit, that is where the mundane things he does like eat with them and let Thomas touch him are actually quite significant since this shows he is more than just a spirit. Then of course as pointed correctly, the immortal body is not like the mortal body however. It is not quite the same as the corrupted flesh fashioned from the dirt of the corrupted earth, but it is a new thing and hence the Mystery about its nature and properties. This is also supported that the form of glory while it is more than spirit it is above this current mortal form in its nature. This is seen in the things that Jesus does which astounds the disciples like seeming to vanish or blend in unnoticed or make the nets of Peter break for the multitude of fishes. So deepens only the Thunder of the Mystery of the Immortal Form of Glory.
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FROM YOUR PROFILE PAGE:
Spiritual Stat usunsure
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Favorite Bible VerseJohn3:16
About I am just starting my life as a christian. I have believed that there is a God I went to church as a child even got baptized. I never really understood what it was all about untill recently. Looking for information.
IF you are starting your life as a Christian, then how are you UNSURE of your spiritual status?????????????
Spiritual Stat usunsure
Country Flag/NationalityUSA
Country (Location)United StatesState/
Province/RegionKansas [USA]
Favorite Bible VerseJohn3:16
About I am just starting my life as a christian. I have believed that there is a God I went to church as a child even got baptized. I never really understood what it was all about untill recently. Looking for information.
IF you are starting your life as a Christian, then how are you UNSURE of your spiritual status?????????????
BTW: From reading your comment on your Profile Page, I'd have to say you did pretty much everything wrong...........What purpose does it serve someone to be baptized BEFORE they are saved? If you did not understand what it was all about, you wasted your time being baptized, right?
IMO, you need to go back to the beginning and start all over
IMO, you need to go back to the beginning and start all over
I am not unsure about my spiritual status. I do have a lot of questions. I spend 4-5 hrs a day studying Gods word. I use Biblehub for the Strong's concordance to such for scripture. I would change my favorite verses to Acts17:11&12 because I want to be like the Bereans they hear the word then go home and study to make sure what they heard lines up with scripture.