Why are we quiet

[SomeDisciple]

What if
"What do you thank would happen to me if I went into the church next Sunday and started turning thing over taking a whip to people and telling them to quit destroying Gods house stop turning it into a plce of false worship"

If you let me record it, you'd become a youtube celebrity.

 

[shittim]

In my church I would probably wing you

 

[SomeDisciple]

We are seeing this prophecy play out right in front of our eyes and yet the churches are full of people that set there and shout Amen.
Then they go home and worship there fishing boat, football games Ect. what ever it is that they put before God.

You might be right; however, those who hunger and thirst for righteousness in the church age WILL be filled. If there is a famine of the word being heard, it's because we aren't really hungering and thirsting for righteousness- it's like I said, people want their ears itched, and that's why there are so many false teachers. The question becomes, how do you get people to hunger and thirst for righteousness?

 

[soberxp]

Of course, we are against communism. We are against the oppression of the many by the few.
The point (and I think I am agreeing with Oblio) is that the NWO, the UN and NATO are trying to establish their own form of communism and Putin is very much against the NWO. Putin is fighting for his own survival, pathetic as it may be.
The NWO is not a righteous solution to the world's problems. Unfortunately, there are few alternatives.
The USA represented a righteous endeavor at governance. It has fallen into the trap of the occult.

It is fascinating to watch how God accomplishes his will. Who can stand against the Word of God?
Keep the Faith. Fight the good fight. Love your fellow man. Comfort those in need. Share the Gospel with them.

It was western Ukraine that first broke the peace treaty and shelled eastern Ukraine that Putin could not bear it.

 

[SomeDisciple]

Christianity still represents the majority in America, if not... America is doomed.

I'm not sure that Christianity really has or represents a majority. Actually, I'm pretty sure it doesn't. "Christianity" has a majority. The body of Christ does not. And probably never has.

America's not doomed, though- we don't depend on a majority of Christians, we just depend on "enough" Christians- enough to influence the general population so that the majority isn't totally depraved. We do need to make more disciples, though- and that is why I pointed at sexual immorality, because it's a major barrier.

 

[soberxp]

You might be right; however, those who hunger and thirst for righteousness in the church age WILL be filled. If there is a famine of the word being heard, it's because we aren't really hungering and thirsting for righteousness- it's like I said, people want their ears itched, and that's why there are so many false teachers. The question becomes, how do you get people to hunger and thirst for righteousness?

In any case, I choose to believe the Bible in the end, because the world is full of lies,You can't even choose which lie to believe. Only the word of the Bible is the word of honest God,he never lie to us.

 

[JAPOV]

I'm not sure that Christianity really has or represents a majority. Actually, I'm pretty sure it doesn't. "Christianity" has a majority. The body of Christ does not. And probably never has.

America's not doomed, though- we don't depend on a majority of Christians, we just depend on "enough" Christians- enough to influence the general population so that the majority isn't totally depraved. We do need to make more disciples, though- and that is why I pointed at sexual immorality, because it's a major barrier.

Just 10yrs ago 70% of Americans identified as Christian, that's why it was such an issue for Obama. Now, it's difficult to even get an accurate statistic...

 

[soberxp]

"You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' But I tell you not to resist an evil person."

1.The conflict between western Ukraine and eastern Ukraine. If western Ukraine attacks eastern Ukraine and eastern Ukraine does not resist, There could be a massacre of East Ukrainians who closer to Russia.

2.If Russia is also a tooth for a tooth and an eye for an eye，Many soldiers and civilians will still die in the war.

So the total number of deaths will be more than the first one.

then I chose to believe Jesus.

But who spread the dispute among the Ukrainian people ?The United States that promotes democracy around the world?Or NATO?Or Russia?

I don't know who, then I chose to believe Jesus.

 

[JAPOV]

You might be right; however, those who hunger and thirst for righteousness in the church age WILL be filled. If there is a famine of the word being heard, it's because we aren't really hungering and thirsting for righteousness- it's like I said, people want their ears itched, and that's why there are so many false teachers. The question becomes, how do you get people to hunger and thirst for righteousness?

You lead by example... What example does our current lawless, immoral, progressive globalist administration present to our children? Why do you think they go after the children?

 

[Marilyn]

Marilyn I have some Questions about your time line. The nations yes they have been her and always will be here God said they were good very good on the 6th day.

Israel do you take that to mean the 12 tribes or just Juda and Benjerman which make up the house of Juda which were in Jerusalem when Jesus was alive and resettled the land in 1948.

Israel ruling in the millennium; You are going to have to show scripture because the millennium or The Day of the Lord.
These are not my words these are the words given to John while he was in the spirit on the Lords Day.

Revelation 20.
1And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, 3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
verse 1, And I (John) saw. This is the vision that God gave him while he was in the spirit on the first day of The Day of The Lord. He was on longer on the island in 94 AD He "his spirit body" was with God being given this wonderful Revelation.

What does verse 4 say "I saw thrones and they that sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them[we will find out more about this judgment later] Verse 5. The rest of the dead [that is spiritually dead flesh and blood can not enter the kingdom of God. that is why John was taken in the spirit] And they lived not again untill the 1,000 years was finished. [ they are spiritually dead meaning they have a mortal soul that is libel to die] This is the FIRST resurrection. Verse 6. Blessed and holy is he [Who is the he. those spoken of in verse 4] That hath part in the first resurrection [ again first resurrection there is no rapture] but they shall be priests of God and of Christ a thousand years. [What is the job of a priest of God and of Christ? To teach. That is what is going to happen during the thousand years those that make the first resurrection those with immortal will teach those with mortal souls. Again space prohibits but if you want later we can go into this] I hope this helps you under where I am coming from

Hi ken,

Good question there.

1. I mean the whole of Israel.

2. The Day of the Lord (God Almighty for judgment - Rev. 15: 7). The Greek word `Day` `hemera,` means a time period and also a specific day. Just like Christmas time, and Christmas day, as a poor example. So the context in scripture will tell us which it is referring to in the sentence as both meanings are used in God`s word.

eg. The day of the Lord -time period, Joel 2: 1, and specific day, Zech. 14: 1, Rev. 6: 12 - 17).

3. Israel ruling in the millennium. (Micah 4: 1 - 3, Zech. 14: 16 - 21)

4. 2 Resurrections - resurrection to life and resurrection to condemnation. (John 5: 28 & 29) Notice that is for those in the graves and they will be judged on their works. (Rev. 20: 11 - 15)

BUT the Body of Christ is NOT in the grave but in heaven. (Heb. 12: 22 & 23) and we are NOT judged on our works for the Lord has taken our punishment. remember we are `saved.` SAVED from JUDGMENT!!!!

Hope that helps. Marilyn.

 

[kenallen]

In my church I would probably wing you

you might want to start suturing things up a bit in your church. Ask the pastor to explain Mark 13:14 Jesus did say let the reader understand it

 

[JeffA]

you might want to start suturing things up a bit in your church. Ask the pastor to explain Mark 13:14 Jesus did say let the reader understand it

I believe Jesus was saying to read and understand Daniel the Prophet

 

[kenallen]

I believe Jesus was saying to read and understand Daniel the Prophet

Can your Pastor explain it to you

 

[JeffA]

Can your Pastor explain it to you

No need or a Pastor to explain something so simple.
When Jesus spoke those words, Mark 13:14 was not written. So he was definitely NOT referring to this passage.
Jesus was referring to what Daniel had written. He wants the reader of DANIEL to understand what DANIEL was saying.

See there? It is explained.

 

[kenallen]

No need or a Pastor to explain something so simple.
When Jesus spoke those words, Mark 13:14 was not written. So he was definitely NOT referring to this passage.
Jesus was referring to what Daniel had written. He wants the reader of DANIEL to understand what DANIEL was saying.

See there? It is explained.

well what did Danial have to say

 

[JeffA]

well what did Danial have to say

Good question.
Things are still being revealed.
There are many theories and scenarios that "could" fit the prophecies.
I'm not committed to anything.
I think the one who "shows himself to be God" is going to be arguing that we are ALL Gods.
Similar to the teaching that "truth" is different for each person. (what is "true" for you may be different for me).
I personally believe that there is only one "truth", which is God's truth and that we should live in it as best we can.
Jesus is returning much sooner than anyone thinks or acts. Man will be caught unaware.
I wonder how many people will lose faith if Jesus returns without a "movie-style" Rapture.
Will they deny his coming if his return is not how they expect? I hope not.
Keep watch. Study and learn with an open heart and mind. Do not be deceived but test all things.

Now I'm rambling.

 

[mustaphadrink]

The answer is simple. The church is not the church so why would it get involved and stuff up the status quo? It has a don't rock the boat mentality in most cases and when you have the mindset that numbers equal success you are going to preach what keeps itching ears happy.

The church has by and large taught that acceptance and approval is based on Sunday morning attendance and may be a meeting during the week. If you do that then you are OK.

Where I live every church bar two meets Sunday morning. They attract 10% of the population. It has not occurred to anyone that if they met at say Sunday afternoon and included a meal, they might reach 20% of the population. But of course we can't disturb the status quo.

 

[kenallen]

The answer is simple. The church is not the church so why would it get involved and stuff up the status quo? It has a don't rock the boat mentality in most cases and when you have the mindset that numbers equal success you are going to preach what keeps itching ears happy.

The church has by and large taught that acceptance and approval is based on Sunday morning attendance and may be a meeting during the week. If you do that then you are OK.

Where I live every church bar two meets Sunday morning. They attract 10% of the population. It has not occurred to anyone that if they met at say Sunday afternoon and included a meal, they might reach 20% of the population. But of course we can't disturb the status quo.

LOL Love it