WHO ARE DENIED HEAVEN-ENTRY?

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Taranis

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HOW Powerful I am, Well GOD says one thing, and I have to Beat that into you
 
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Taranis

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I am so Powerful I do do not Introductions, Have you to say anything about the Scripture?
 
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Sudakar said:
"These little ones believe in Me" in Mathew18:6 proves all babies believe in Jesus. The problem is not with God's creation. The problem is with humans who forsake faith in Jesus & choose the forbidden knowledge of good & evil as they grow up.
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You need to look at the Greek word translated As “little ones,”—it has NOTHING to do with babies.
 
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Sudakar

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Sipsey said:
You need to look at the Greek word translated As “little ones,”—it has NOTHING to do with babies.
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Do you mean God made a mistake by creating humans without faith in Jesus?
 
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Sipsey

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Sudakar said:
Do you mean God made a mistake by creating humans without faith in Jesus?
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I think you need to look closely at the context of the verses you use. Everyone that can read know what it says, not everyone knows what they mean.
 
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Sudakar

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Taranis said:
God is not going to Lose 1, Except the Devil Himself and the false prophet of Christianity, Who is the False Prophet of Christianity?
They are the only 2 that the BIBLE says goes into the second Death.
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Do you have the forbidden knowledge of good and evil in your heart?
 
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Sudakar

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FreeGrace2 said:
What do you mean by "forbidden moral law"? What is that?

And believing in Jesus means to have full trust in His work on the cross on behalf of our sins. iow, He paid the full debt for our sins, and also trusting that He will save whosoever believes in Him for eternal life.

btw, Jesus died for everyone, but not everyone is delivered. So your theory has a big problem. I hope you see it.
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If God had given the moral law to Adam and Eve why would they stay unclothed in God's most holy presence?
 
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Sudakar

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FreeGrace2 said:
Though Romans 5 does show that Adam is the one who brought the sin nature to the human race, and passed on to all humans through their fathers, responsibility is on EVERY PERSON. No one can blame Adam for their sin, because everyone sins.

But the good news is that Jesus Christ died for the sins of everyone. With the "sin barrier" removed, each person is responsible for recognizing God as Creator and being thankful to Him.

Rom 1:19-20
19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.
20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

What do you mean? People sin from their own choices. How do you sin? That would answer your question.


Where did you learn this from? The Bible doesn't teach this at all. People are born separated from God. That is called spiritual death. And therefore, every person needs to be born again, which is spiritual life.


Since the Bible doesn't teach this, where did you get your learning?
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Mathew 18:3: "Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven".

Here Jesus says 'little children' to commonly refer to all little children. This is clear proof Jesus says all little children believe in Him (Mathew18:6: 'one of these little ones which believe in me').
 
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Sudakar

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walknlight said:
Hey again!

Again I agree to an extent......Cant be proven in the Scriptures, not that it is wrong, I just cant agree solid.

What's right and wrong, I agree.
We ALL were/are born fallen, sinful, etc...

Not so in all families.

God Bless!
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Adam and Eve stayed unclothed in God's most holy presence which is sinful when see through the moral lens. Acts are different from the moral knowledge which makes you consider acts are sinful.
 
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Sudakar

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Sipsey said:
I think you need to look closely at the context of the verses you use. Everyone that can read know what it says, not everyone knows what they mean.
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Do you mean God made a mistake by creating humans without faith in Jesus? Yes or no?
 
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Sipsey

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Sudakar said:
Do you mean God made a mistake by creating humans without faith in Jesus? Yes or no?
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It’s very simple, you and I have choices to make, choose wisely.
 
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Sudakar

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Sipsey said:
It’s very simple, you and I have choices to make, choose wisely.
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The question is not whether humans have choices or not after birth. At birth are they created with faith in Jesus or not? That's the question.
 
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Sipsey

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Sudakar said:
The question is not whether humans have choices or not after birth. At birth are they created with faith in Jesus or not? That's the question.
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Since you claim they do, I believe it is up to you to show in Scripure that they are born with this faith you claim they have. Scripture uses various terms to refer to yong children. Young children have a simple, uncomplicated faith, babies don't know much at all.

Show me in Scripture that all babies are born with faith in Jesus.
 
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I’m saddened to surmise by some of the posts on display that some people are tormented by evil spirits. My prayers are lifted for their healing.
 
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FreeGrace2

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FreeGrace2 said:
What do you mean by "forbidden moral law"? What is that?

And believing in Jesus means to have full trust in His work on the cross on behalf of our sins. iow, He paid the full debt for our sins, and also trusting that He will save whosoever believes in Him for eternal life.

btw, Jesus died for everyone, but not everyone is delivered. So your theory has a big problem. I hope you see it.
Sudakar said:
If God had given the moral law to Adam and Eve why would they stay unclothed in God's most holy presence?
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What is "forbidden moral law" anyway?

God gave only 1 restrictive command to Adam/Eve; don't eat of 1 specific tree. Being unclothed was of no issue to them. God created them both and they were naked. So what?

They didn't hide from the Lord until AFTER they rebelled.
 
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