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Magenta

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Mathew 18:5: "And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me".

'One such little child' refers to any child & all little children. It is in this background that Jesus says 'one of these little ones which believe in me (Mathew18:6)' to refer to all little children.

This is clear proof Jesus says all little children believe in Him.

So reply rather than accuse.
One such little child does not refer to babies. One such little child does not refer to all children, even. It refers only to the little children who do believe in Jesus. The verse does not imply that all little children believe in Jesus. It certainly says nothing about all babies being born with faith in Christ. Your adherence to this lie you spread goes directly against Scripture.

Even from birth the wicked go astray; from the womb they are wayward, spreading lies. Psalm 58:3

Isaiah 48:8
You have never heard; you have never understood; for a long time your ears have not been open.
For I knew how deceitful you are; you have been called a rebel from birth.


Job 15:14
What is man, that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous?


Proverbs 22:15
Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.


When will you repent from your wickedness and lies?
 

Blik

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Are you saying you are justified before God by fulfilling the moral law or by faith Jesus has fulfilled the moral law on our behalf?

If you are justified by faith in Christ's fulfillment of the moral law on our behalf, why do you need the moral law?
Ask God why he gave you the moral law.

The 119th Psalm explains it well, if you really want to hear from the Lord about why.
 

Everlasting-Grace

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Ask God why he gave you the moral law.

The 119th Psalm explains it well, if you really want to hear from the Lord about why.
better yet go to galations 3. Because paul tells us exactly why the law was given.
 
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Ask God why he gave you the moral law.

The 119th Psalm explains it well, if you really want to hear from the Lord about why.
No use reading from ps119 because Jesus abolished the moral law 1000 years after by His death on the cross.
Ephesians 2:15:"Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances".
 
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One such little child does not refer to babies. One such little child does not refer to all children, even. It refers only to the little children who do believe in Jesus. The verse does not imply that all little children believe in Jesus. It certainly says nothing about all babies being born with faith in Christ. Your adherence to this lie you spread goes directly against Scripture.

Even from birth the wicked go astray; from the womb they are wayward, spreading lies. Psalm 58:3

Isaiah 48:8
You have never heard; you have never understood; for a long time your ears have not been open.
For I knew how deceitful you are; you have been called a rebel from birth.


Job 15:14
What is man, that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous?


Proverbs 22:15
Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.


When will you repent from your wickedness and lies?
Are you saying seen through the forbidden knowledge of good & evil, staying unclothed in God's most holy presence is holy & righteous?

So avoid confusing between deeds & the forbidden knowledge of good & evil which accuses deeds as sinful!
 
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Your interpretation of this does not jive with Psalms 58:3

"The wicked are estranged from the womb;
They go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies."
Again you are coming back to be justified before God by fulfilling the moral law?
 
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Your interpretation of this does not jive with Psalms 58:3

"The wicked are estranged from the womb;
They go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies."
Seen through the moral lens Adam and Eve as well, were sinful by staying unclothed in God's most holy presence!
 
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you are obsessed with babies............I will not reply further to this post, pointless,

JF
Luke19:10: "For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost".

'Lost' means humans were once believing in Jesus & had gone astray.
 

Blik

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No use reading from ps119 because Jesus abolished the moral law 1000 years after by His death on the cross.
Ephesians 2:15:"Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances".
When Jesus fulfilled every single thing told of him, you are changing scripture to say something that is not true at all. You are also giving as scripture something that is opposed to what scripture says. Scripture says the law is eternal and you say it is abolished. God does not disagree with God, you better find out what was abolished.
 

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Ephesians 2:15:"Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances".
God wants to eliminate hatred, and even this is included in the law
 

soberxp

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Ephesians 2:15:"Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances".
God wants to eliminate hatred, and even this is included in the law
Matthew 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
 

Magenta

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Are you saying seen through the forbidden knowledge of good & evil, staying unclothed in God's most holy presence is holy & righteous?
One such little child does not refer to babies. One such little child does not refer to all children, even. It refers only to the little children who do believe in Jesus. The verse does not imply that all little children believe in Jesus. It certainly says nothing about all babies being born with faith in Christ. Your adherence to this lie you spread goes directly against Scripture.

Even from birth the wicked go astray; from the womb they are wayward, spreading lies. Psalm 58:3

Isaiah 48:8
You have never heard; you have never understood; for a long time your ears have not been open.
For I knew how deceitful you are; you have been called a rebel from birth.


Job 15:14
What is man, that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous?


Proverbs 22:15
Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.


When will you repent from your wickedness and lies?

^ That is what I said. That you fail to understand it it can hardly surprise anyone at this point.
 

posthuman

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Again you are coming back to be justified before God by fulfilling the moral law?
it is unclear how demonstrating your views contradict scripture would in any way indicate i am trying to be justified through law?
 

Evmur

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Romans2:14-16 implies moral law was chosen by all humans from Eve & none can escape condemnation without believing in Jesus who delivered us from the moral law according to Romans7:4,6.

Rom 1: 20:For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
This does not show the meaning of Romans 2 14 - 16 it is classical evangelical dodge.
 
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This does not show the meaning of Romans 2 14 - 16 it is classical evangelical dodge.
So what is your interpretation? Jesus is the way. Jesus said that. Thst is not the theory of evangelicals.
 
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it is unclear how demonstrating your views contradict scripture would in any way indicate i am trying to be justified through law?
If you believe you are not justified before God by fulfilling the moral law, why do you cling to the moral law?
 
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One such little child does not refer to babies. One such little child does not refer to all children, even. It refers only to the little children who do believe in Jesus. The verse does not imply that all little children believe in Jesus. It certainly says nothing about all babies being born with faith in Christ. Your adherence to this lie you spread goes directly against Scripture.

Even from birth the wicked go astray; from the womb they are wayward, spreading lies. Psalm 58:3

Isaiah 48:8
You have never heard; you have never understood; for a long time your ears have not been open.
For I knew how deceitful you are; you have been called a rebel from birth.


Job 15:14
What is man, that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous?


Proverbs 22:15
Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.


When will you repent from your wickedness and lies?

^ That is what I said. That you fail to understand it it can hardly surprise anyone at this point.
Are you saying staying unclothed in God's most holy presence is a righteous deed? Why do you evade this question?
 
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Matthew 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Are you saying you are justified before God by your goodworks?