Did Jesus died on Good Friday and rise Sunday, first day of the week?

[JeffA]

Jesus was crucified DURING a High Sabbath. The first day of unleavened bread.
The Pharisees practiced that sabbath did not start until 6pm.
The followers of Jesus did not break God's Sabbath during that day.

Luke 23:54 (ASV) And it was the day of the Preparation, and the sabbath drew on.

That means that the Sabbath was ONGOING. Just not according to the Farsi

 

[elights]

There’s nothing that is as challenging as telling the day the Lord rose from the dead,some are of the view that crucifixion happened on Wednesday,others Thursday while many suppose it was on Friday,Each one of these opinions have both pros and cons If scripture deemed it important,it would have specifically communicated the day,what is more important than anything is that Jesus died for our sins and resurrected from the dead!!!

 

[elights]

There’s nothing that is as challenging as telling the day the Lord rose from the dead,some are of the view that crucifixion happened on Wednesday,others Thursday while many suppose it was on Friday,Each one of these opinions have both pros and cons If scripture deemed it important,it would have specifically communicated the day,what is more important than anything is that Jesus died for our sins and resurrected from the dead!!!

 

[Nehemiah6]

Jesus was crucified DURING a High Sabbath.

That is incorrect. Christ was crucified on the day of Passover (the 14th of Nisan, AD 30), since He is in fact called "Christ our Passover"). Passover began on the evening of the previous day and ended at sunset of Wednesday. The next day would be the Feast of Unleavened Bread (which was also a high Sabbath). Thus Christ would fulfill both the feasts of Passover (by dying on that day as "the Lamb of God") and First Fruits (by rising from the dead as the "First Fruits of them that slept"). To fulfil all prophecies, He was crucified on Wednesday and rose on Sunday (the first day of the week, called "the morrow after the Sabbath").

 

[Inquisitor]

This is the Pharisee day of preparation. Their Sabbath begins at 6pm.
Jesus was crucified during this day before 6pm
Joseph of Arimathea was a Pharisee. He collected the body and put it in the tomb. The women watched only.
All of the locals observed the same way. This was the religious correctness of the day.

I gave hard evidence in post 153 and 154 that the TRUE Sabbath, just like every other day, begins at dawn.

Until you realize that, you will never reconcile all of the verses pertaining to the Passion of Christ.

Leviticus 23:32
It is to be a Sabbath of complete rest for you, and you shall humble yourselves; on the ninth of the month at evening, from evening until evening, you shall keep your Sabbath.

It appears, according to Leviticus 23, that the Sabbath was observed from evening to evening.

How do you know that Joseph of Arimathea was a Pharisee, the text does not say that.

 

[Inquisitor]

That is incorrect. Christ was crucified on the day of Passover (the 14th of Nisan, AD 30), since He is in fact called "Christ our Passover"). Passover began on the evening of the previous day and ended at sunset of Wednesday. The next day would be the Feast of Unleavened Bread (which was also a high Sabbath). Thus Christ would fulfill both the feasts of Passover (by dying on that day as "the Lamb of God") and First Fruits (by rising from the dead as the "First Fruits of them that slept"). To fulfil all prophecies, He was crucified on Wednesday and rose on Sunday (the first day of the week, called "the morrow after the Sabbath").

Crucified on Wednesday and rose on Sunday is a fourth day resurrection!

That is heresy.

Jesus rose on the third day.

 

[JeffA]

Leviticus 23:32
It is to be a Sabbath of complete rest for you, and you shall humble yourselves; on the ninth of the month at evening, from evening until evening, you shall keep your Sabbath.

It appears, according to Leviticus 23, that the Sabbath was observed from evening to evening.

How do you know that Joseph of Arimathea was a Pharisee, the text does not say that.

Lev 23:32 argument was Destroyed earlier in this thread.
You need to start at 23:27
This is the Sabbath beginning on the eve of the 9th before the DAY of atonement. It is a High Sabbath specified by God for this ONE PARTICULAR event. It has NOTHING to do with when a Biblical DAY starts.

The proof of when a weekly Sabbath begins is in post #153 and #154

Joseph of Arimathea was a member of the counsel as stated. I'm not saying that he was "bad" or not saved.

 

[JeffA]

Jesus was not crucified on a Sabbath day. Jesus was crucified on the preparation day for the Sabbath.

Luke 23:54
It was a preparation day, and a Sabbath was about to begin.

That day was 15 Abib. All Day, starting at Dawn. A High Sabbath as the first day of unleavened bread.
Days start at Dawn.

 

[Inquisitor]

Lev 23:32 argument was Destroyed earlier in this thread.
You need to start at 23:27
This is the Sabbath beginning on the eve of the 9th before the DAY of atonement. It is a High Sabbath specified by God for this ONE PARTICULAR event. It has NOTHING to do with when a Biblical DAY starts.

The proof of when a weekly Sabbath begins is in post #153 and #154

Joseph of Arimathea was a member of the counsel as stated. I'm not saying that he was "bad" or not saved.

You are wrong, your statement

This is the Sabbath beginning on the eve of the 9th before the DAY of atonement.

does not make any sense?

Do you understand what you just wrote?

The day of Atonement is kept as a Sabbath day.

Your trying to say that there was a Sabbath day before the Atonement day?

 

[Inquisitor]

Lev 23:32 argument was Destroyed earlier in this thread.
You need to start at 23:27
This is the Sabbath beginning on the eve of the 9th before the DAY of atonement. It is a High Sabbath specified by God for this ONE PARTICULAR event. It has NOTHING to do with when a Biblical DAY starts.

The proof of when a weekly Sabbath begins is in post #153 and #154

Joseph of Arimathea was a member of the counsel as stated. I'm not saying that he was "bad" or not saved.

It doesn't matter whether Joseph was good or bad. You said Joseph was a Pharisee without any supporting evidence from the text. You can't do that.

 

[Inquisitor]

That day was 15 Abib. All Day, starting at Dawn. A High Sabbath as the first day of unleavened bread.
Days start at Dawn.

You need to support your idea that the first day of Unleavened Bread was a high Sabbath.

You will not find the evidence in Leviticus 23, because the first day of UB is not called even a Sabbath. Let alone a high Sabbath.

Days do not start at dawn in Israel, they start at sunset.

 

[gb9]

That day was 15 Abib. All Day, starting at Dawn. A High Sabbath as the first day of unleavened bread.
Days start at Dawn.

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no sir. jews in Jesus's time kept time from twilight to twilight .

by our way of counting, 6-8 pm to 6-8 pm.


not the same in a m.

 

[ewq1938]

Crucified on Wednesday and rose on Sunday is a fourth day resurrection!

That is heresy.

Jesus rose on the third day.

Jesus was crucified on a Wednesday, he died and was buried that evening which is when Thursday started. The three days in the grave is Thursday, Friday and Saturday, rising from the dead when Saturday first turned into Sunday.

 

[Mem]

When a sabbath arrives, one can commence to say "Shabbat shalom" at sunset and continue with that sentiment until sunset the next day. A high sabbath is distinct from the seventh day sabbath in that it does not need to fall on the seventh day of the week as the event makes the day a sabbath rather than the day qualifying the event as a sabbath. These verses show a high sabbath preparation for Passover, when the lamb is slain for the Passover meal and prepared for the meal that evening when the (high Sabbath of) Passover arrives. In the exodus this is the time the Israelites placed the blood on the doorposts:
John 19:14 It was the day of Preparation for the Passover, about the sixth hour. And Pilate said to the Jews, “Here is your King!”
John 19:31 It was the day of Preparation, and the next day was a High Sabbath. In order that the bodies would not remain on the cross during the Sabbath, the Jews asked Pilate to have the legs broken and the bodies removed.
John 19:42 And because it was the Jewish day of Preparation and the tomb was nearby, they placed Jesus there.

Then Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John speak of the first day of the week, which is clearly after the seventh day weekly sabbath, "very early in the morning of an "evening and the morning" day which would conclude that Sunday evening.

Jesus said in Matthew 12:40, "For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth," so we conclude our count on a night: Saturday, Friday, Thursday night...then fill in the days, Saturday, Friday, Thursday day.... and so we Have Thursday morning (day of preparation of Passover and Jesus crucified and buried), Thursday night (high Sabbath of Passover arrives), Friday morning (normally day of preparation for weekly sabbath because it is 6th day of the week but I'm not sure if there is any prep being that it is also Passover in this instance), Friday night (7th day Shabbat arrives), Saturday morning (7th day Shabbat), Saturday night (first day of the week arrives). Sunday morning , at dawn, Jesus is definitely no longer in the belly of the earth.

 

[Mem]

John 19:14 It was the day of Preparation for the Passover, about the sixth hour.b And Pilate said to the Jews, “Here is your King!”
about noon

Matt 27:47 From the sixth hour until the ninth hourg darkness came over all the land. About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli,h lema sabachthani?” which means, “My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?”
noon to 3
Jesus died at about 3 in the afternoon, during the day.

Mark 15:42 Now it was already evening. Since it was Preparation Day (that is, the day before the Sabbath), 43 Joseph of Arimathea, a prominent Council member who himself was waiting for the kingdom of God, boldly went to Pilate to ask for the body of Jesus.

If the count begins at burial, in the evening, then Sunday morning has to be included in the count if Jesus indeed died on Thursday, unless it is valid that 'in the heart of the earth' is an idiom for death.

 

[TMS]

A high sabbath (also known as a double-sabbath) is when one of the holy days coincide with the seventh-day Sabbath.
Example:
The First Day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread is a sabbath and begins on the 15th day of Nisan. The Passover lamb is to be killed at twilight on the 14th day or just before sundown. The Hebrew calendar marks the start and end of days from sunset to sunset as opposed to our modern calendar which goes from midnight to midnight.
That day may fall on any day of the week. But if it happens to fall on the seventh-day of the week, it is called “a high sabbath.”

At the Crucifixion of Jesus, the seventh-day of the week also happened to be the 15th of Nisan that year. Jesus was killed on Friday just before sunset on the 14th of Nisan. This means that Jesus laid in the tomb during a High Sabbath because the 15th of Nisan coincided with the seventh-day of the week.

This is logical because The pattern God had given Israel for many years was perfectly fulfilled by Jesus. The lamb died just before the 15th of Nisan the perfect Passover lamb.

 

[Mem]

A high sabbath (also known as a double-sabbath) is when one of the holy days coincide with the seventh-day Sabbath.
Example:
The First Day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread is a sabbath and begins on the 15th day of Nisan. The Passover lamb is to be killed at twilight on the 14th day or just before sundown. The Hebrew calendar marks the start and end of days from sunset to sunset as opposed to our modern calendar which goes from midnight to midnight.
That day may fall on any day of the week. But if it happens to fall on the seventh-day of the week, it is called “a high sabbath.”

At the Crucifixion of Jesus, the seventh-day of the week also happened to be the 15th of Nisan that year. Jesus was killed on Friday just before sunset on the 14th of Nisan. This means that Jesus laid in the tomb during a High Sabbath because the 15th of Nisan coincided with the seventh-day of the week.

This is logical because The pattern God had given Israel for many years was perfectly fulfilled by Jesus. The lamb died just before the 15th of Nisan the perfect Passover lamb.

OKAY, I mean, okay, sorry had caps lock on there...I'll go back and check that definition of a high sabbath, I may and probably have misnamed Passover a "high sabbath" but I do know for sure it is a sabbath whatever day it falls on.

 

[Mem]

I might go back and change the nomenclature of days to nights to 'daylight' and 'moonlight' to try and get a better understanding regarding the counts of the days

 

[Mem]

OKAY, I mean, okay, sorry had caps lock on there...I'll go back and check that definition of a high sabbath, I may and probably have misnamed Passover a "high sabbath" but I do know for sure it is a sabbath whatever day it falls on.

there are diverse opinions regarding a high sabbath...including one that claims that Passover is not a sabbath...

 

[TMS]

OKAY, I mean, okay, sorry had caps lock on there...I'll go back and check that definition of a high sabbath, I may and probably have misnamed Passover a "high sabbath" but I do know for sure it is a sabbath whatever day it falls on.

Yes the 15th of Nisan was a Sabbath what ever day it fell on.