Why is God's Name NOT in the Bible?
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Amen and thanks for your interest. I believe you are right about Jesus speaking Aramaic mostly.BAck again to me speaking English... Seems to me God knew/knows there would be people speaking Spanish, French, German ETC. . I think Jesus spoke Aramaic mostly. Which was the language of that time and place. So much of this just seems plain ol silly. Yet here i am reading
You are most certainly right about God knowing all.
We are reasonably sure that Jesus knew ancient Hebrew because of his knowledge of scripture. Of course, at that time, the Old Testament was the only "scripture". This is also the scripture that I was referring to.
Now we know that the name YHWH was written in scripture around 6,800 times and referred to God's name.
We know that it was spoken aloud. for example, Sarah, Leah, and many others.
These are in quotes, in the scripture. Thousands of times. Hard to deny.
So, it is ludicrous to claim that YHWH could not be pronounced.
Similarly, you would have to be a mental contortionist to think that God was hiding his name on purpose.
I would warn people against throwing out the old testament because it is the basis for the new testament.
It was Jesus' own resource.
I thank you again for your interest in the subject and please know that this is not a rebuttal to anything you have stated.
It's just what is on my mind at the moment and you are a good listener
Good point!
Let me bounce this off of you then.
As for the pronunciation, I am currently in the camp of "Yahuah" rather than "Yahweh". Both are similar.
Maybe it is because I have not fully vetted the argument on the "Yahweh" side. I hope to get around to that.
I am sure of this, though. I take no man's word for either side. You could have a PhD in the study of everything and it would not make you correct on a subject. There are those that "say they are Yahudim and are not, but do lie."
This is probably a very minor dispute anyway.
I usually don't like to be in the "undecided" camp on anything but I also don't mind switching camps. That, to me, is a sign of progress.
Peace to you.
If, in everyplace in scripture, we were to replace Lord for Yahweh/Yahuah, where is was originally removed - what would change?
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Please clarify/illustrate in point those changes - thank you
Rom_8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
Gal_4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
Jesus said Luk_11:2 And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.
How serious are we to take or understand the Words of Jesus? I have read in this thread to take the Word of God literal do we ?
So when we pray we are to say Our Father When in Joy we say Abba Father... to me it is a bit like this old song..
Let's Call the Whole Thing Off (You Say Tomato, I Say Tomato)
Gal_4:6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
Jesus said Luk_11:2 And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth.
How serious are we to take or understand the Words of Jesus? I have read in this thread to take the Word of God literal do we ?
So when we pray we are to say Our Father When in Joy we say Abba Father... to me it is a bit like this old song..
Let's Call the Whole Thing Off (You Say Tomato, I Say Tomato)
The President of the United States has been in office since 1789. Wow! that's a long time to run a country. Good Job! Mr. President.
Ignorance is bliss - God is Eternal so, hey, HE can be President since 1789.....................and counting.
Based on your knowledge of YHWH and this thread "God's Name not in the Bible" :
What is the most important changes that would take place if we replaced LORD (where it speaks of YHWH) with Yahweh/Yahuah?
I would take the majority of PhDs who are expert in the ancient languages as the correct or best form of knowledge on this that a person can come to. I would not consider any other data as credible than that of "man's, (experts like PhDs in ancient languages).
Who else would you listen to if not man's opinion on how to pronounce this? Are you suggesting that we should pray and ask God and then go about telling people that one should pronounce it such and such a way because God told them how when they prayed about it?
Of course we should trust expert opinion from those who know enough about ancient Hebrew to explain the details. Who else would you trust but a PhD on this subject?
In what way - please be specific - that is one way you can make YHWH 'happier'.
"Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have."
I guess I misunderstand you.
Are you saying that right is by reason of majority?
Are you saying that right is by reason of Education level?
Are you saying that right is by reason of a majority of highly educated people?
Is that how "right" is defined?
Wow, I guess Jesus' life truly was doomed from the start. Aren't we glad he rose again?
I have explained many times but if you can't distinguish between a name and a title then I can't help you.
Yes, I understand your Thread title and the explanation of YHWH/Yahweh/Yahuah as part of the Name of ELOHIM/God/Lord
No Jeff, you have not explained any specific point to the question I have asked you: What important change(s) would make different from current word of 'LORD' where it replaced YHWH.
It would be very easy for you to say, as an example, = a.) Yahweh here in scripture changes this to that
"Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have."
I am talking about the right way to pronounce YHWH. That "right" way can only be determined by the rules of ancient Hebrew. Of course we know that we are actually talking about the "right" way to pronounce the image below, not YHWH.
And how do we determine this? By either educating ourselves to ancient Hebrew language and rules and all of the questions regarding this topic or by listening to the majority of experts who seem to have formed a consensus on the subject long ago and who's opinions would be the best method for drawing a conclusion on the matter of "how do we pronounce this name correctly." So in this case YES, education and the majority of expert opinion determines the closest to the "right" way one can conclude on this matter.
What would you suggest one should do to determine the "right" way to pronounce this name? Listen to a fringe group non expert, or one individual on a youtube video? What would be the correct method besides listening the majority of PhDs of ancient Hebrew Language? I am at a loss to your thoughts and what you are trying to express if you think this is not the best method?
Do you believe that if the Jews were to use the name Yahweh, then HE would hear them?
Ok then JeffA, the problem you have with translation of the bible has already been remedied with this Holy Name Bible translation. Is your endeavor truly to change every translation? To destroy all other translations?
God hears the prayers of all honest hearted humans no matter what race, ethnicity, or national origin. He is not partial the Bible states. Acts 10:34, 35, John 9:31 There are Jews that have loved Yahweh all their life as have some of their descendants. Do you think he heard you ask that question and read your intentions?