Moral Courage or Foolishness? Ukraine.

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JohnDB said:
A lot of this Russia/Ukraine conflict is steeped in racism. Not exactly the racism that we Westerners recognize. But between the people groups that Comprise Russia vx Ukraine.
That and the resources that Russia wants from Ukraine.
And they aren't going to get along anytime soon...there's never going to be any trust of Russia in Ukraine. Or by any of the former Soviet block nations. They will be resistant always. The long standing history between the two areas and abuses by Russia will only cement the division.

Get used to the idea. It's like Kurds and Iran... Palestinian and Israelis; they are not going to get along.

This is where a nation with five times the military power and might is going to be slapped around by a little nation. And the whole world is watching.
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Ukraine has been defeated already - do not buy into the Ukraine hype from fake news.

I told everyone that what began with the satanists Agenda/Covid that there was no turning back to 'normal'.
Covid then Ukraine and more to come - this is all related and interlinked.

Prophecy will continue to unfold before our eyes at a rapid pace.
 
PennEd said:
Interesting that you have the freedom to say that because of men like that.
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I know exactly where my freedom and salvation comes from.

PennEd said:
I'd recommend watching this whole movie.
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I would recommend spending more time in the Word and on our knees giving credit, honour, and Glory to whom it is due.

I love you brother. I am only commenting on those video clips. I value you highly as a friend and brother. I just wish you would not feed your head with all that mush that comes out of Hollywood.

God bless you, brother. (y)
 
DavidTree said:
Please tell me Brother as I am limited to English - Thank You
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Green,,,it translates to "Mr. Green" in all three languages,,, An bushel of wheat and barley for and days(Ukraine wheat,barley/food) wages but don't hurt the oil and wine(both are luxuries/economy,lifestyle) think Revelation 6 but then there's that post.pre trib. issue in that some may see this in the future so it's a no go and others relate to current goings on as they unfold...
 
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randyk said:
A lot of Christians have been pacifists, particularly in times when the government is hopelessly corrupt or pagan. But Israel was a nation of God and called to fight in the land of Canaan and against pagan enemies. There have also been many Christian nations who fought just wars. I completely disagree with you.
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So there are Christians in Russia and Christians in the Ukraine.....so they end up fighting each other??????
 
Marilyn said:
So there are Christians in Russia and Christians in the Ukraine.....so they end up fighting each other??????
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There are Christians in Ukraine due to evangelism. Russia has some as well but its a smaller number. Russia is still an atheistic nation and not markedly Christian. As you go further west in former Soviet Block nations the numbers increase. Slovakia has a protestant (non-denominational) school and seminary. Slovakia is predominantly Catholic or Atheist. The Catholic church there is not the same as American catholics. No where near the same.
I'm not sure what Ukraine has as far as seminaries or religious training.

I'm sure that Putin is dismayed at what religious institutions have made gains in Russia.
 
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iamsoandso said:
Green,,,it translates to "Mr. Green" in all three languages,,, An bushel of wheat and barley for and days(Ukraine wheat,barley/food) wages but don't hurt the oil and wine(both are luxuries/economy,lifestyle) think Revelation 6 but then there's that post.pre trib. issue in that some may see this in the future so it's a no go and others relate to current goings on as they unfold...
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In NT oil and wine are given new symblic significance - oil is the Holy Spirit, wine is the blood of Jesus, therefore oil and wine in this passage could be referring to the Church who is blessed to endure and survive this hardship in the end times.
 
Carry_Your_Name said:
In NT oil and wine are given new symblic significance - oil is the Holy Spirit, wine is the blood of Jesus, therefore oil and wine in this passage could be referring to the Church who is blessed to endure and survive this hardship in the end times.
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Okay then lets look at Revelation 6:8,,,the pale horse(green, 4th seal),,, then afterwards In the fifth seal,verse 9 and onward those who were slain for the word of God are given robes and told to wait because their fellow servants were going to be killed(verse 11) so if you see this as the Holy Spirit or the Church how can it be that this means "hurt not" if the remainder of the verses explains they were about to be killed? https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation 6&version=KJV
 
iamsoandso said:
Okay then lets look at Revelation 6:8,,,the pale horse(green, 4th seal),,, then afterwards In the fifth seal,verse 9 and onward those who were slain for the word of God are given robes and told to wait because their fellow servants were going to be killed(verse 11) so if you see this as the Holy Spirit or the Church how can it be that this means "hurt not" if the remainder of the verses explains they were about to be killed? https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation 6&version=KJV
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Some of them could be the woman, which is Israel, in Rev. 12. That woman was preserved and nourished for three and a half years, and at end they'll bear witness of the Lord's glorious return.
 
Nehemiah6 said:
Really? Now where did you hear that fake news?

A 60% Dud Rate for Precision-Guided Munitions Explains a Lot of Russia's Problems in Ukraine
https://redstate.com/streiff/2022/0...-a-lot-of-russias-problems-in-ukraine-n540644
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IDK - the complete devastation and destruction of Ukraine, the evacuation of the country, the superior firepower that continues from Russia everyday that continues the devastation and destruction..............

The fact that the Biden puppet and the Globalists knew this was coming and withheld what Ukraine needed.

The fact that this is all part of their plan and connected to the Covid Agenda.

QUESTION: How's that pre-trib rapture working out for you these days....???
 
DavidTree said:
DK - the complete devastation and destruction of Ukraine, the evacuation of the country, the superior firepower that continues from Russia everyday that continues the devastation and destruction.............
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What you are forgetting is that Putin expected little or no resistance but now he is bogged down because of the deficiencies of his own side. Putin thought his victory would come within less than a week, and now it is about a month and no end in sight. If Ukraine is being devastated Putin's troops are also being decimated.
 
iamsoandso said:
If so then your post trib pre mill...
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Yep, that's my position in eschatology.

DavidTree said:
QUESTION: How's that pre-trib rapture working out for you these days....???
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It doesn't. Never did. If you believe that each church in Rev. 2-3 symbolizes a historic period and Laodicea is the last, then Laodicea era started from late 1800s when Darby and Scofield invented this heresy.
 
randyk said:
Putin is not in charge in the Ukraine situation. But how far should NATO go? We don't want WW3, but it may be inevitable at some point in history. Can we speed this along, or must it happen only in God's time? Should we be afraid of precipitating WW3, or being that it is in God's domain, should we just do the right thing regardless? No Fly zone? Active military participation in Ukraine. Secret military involvement?
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If there is to be war [and I believe there will] it will be the most avoidable war in the history of mankind. All that was ever needed was to sit down with the Russians and talk about their concerns about having western "defensive" military capabilities installed on their borders.

There is no such thing as a defensive missile. This is all about NATO creep.
 
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Evmur said:
If there is to be war [and I believe there will] it will be the most avoidable war in the history of mankind. All that was ever needed was to sit down with the Russians and talk about their concerns about having western "defensive" military capabilities installed on their borders.

There is no such thing as a defensive missile. This is all about NATO creep.
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Ukraine got rid of all nuclear missiles...they didn't want any. Russia however would like to park some inside of Ukraine. See how this works yet?
 
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