John was there in spirit. How was he able to fall down at an angel's feet if John himself did not have a spirit body?
Therefore, yes, it follows that a spirit could have robes, etc.
Did John have a glorified spirit body? Or was this more like the spirit body of Samuel appearing to Saul?
NO, JOHN DID NOT, HE COULDN'T. HIS FLESH HASN'T DIED YET. HE HADN'T DIED THE DEATH OF ADAM. WE CAN'T USE HIM OR PAUL. THEY ARE APPLES AND WE ARE TALKING ORANGES
WHAT HAPPENS ONCE THE FLESH BODY DIES?
WITH WHAT BODY ARE WE RAISED? I ask MYSELF 'WHAT EXACTLY is WRITTEN?'
Here is the answer I found, i
f you have found another I am all eyes. I will let you know I believe these words as written as they are clear and without contradiction and I DON'T need them to 'back up' some belief I have. My belief is what is written.
Please READ the comments so you will know why I don't believe as you do on this.
1 Corinthians 15:12 Now if Christ be preached that He rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
If you are saying anything other than 'there is a resurrection of the dead' something IS BEING BROUGHT to the words of God and I would like to know why that is.
EVEN if you are saying THERE WILL BE A RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD sometime in the future, then you also need to say that CHRIST WILL BE RISING FROM THE DEAD in the future also. Can't have one without the other. IT ISN'T WRITTEN IN THAT MANNER. THEY ARE ALWAYS WRITTEN IN THE SAME TENSE.
IF THE DEAD DON'T RESURRECT THEN CHRIST CAN'T RESURRECT.
13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen
SO WE KNOW FOR SURE THE DEAD DO RISE. WE EVEN AGREE THE DEAD DO RISE. WE ONLY DON'T AGREE ABOUT WHAT 'BODY' WE RISE WITH. SO WHAT ARE WE TOLD?
14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that He raised up Christ: whom He raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
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CHRIST IS THE FIRSTFRUITS OF A GROUP OF SOULS AND THAT GROUP IS THEM THAT SLEPT. NOT THEM THAT WILL BE GOING TO SLEEP BUT OF A GROUP ALREADY DEAD.
20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become
the firstfruits of them that slept.
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1Corinthians 15:23
But every man in his own order
CHRIST THE FIRSTFRUITS OF THAT IMMEDIATE GROUP
Christ the firstfruits
AND ALL BELIEVERS WHO GO TO SLEEP RISE UP IN THEIR ORDER
AND THEN THE ALIVE AND REMAINING AT HIS COMING BECAUSE THEY DON'T PRECEDE THEY RISE UP AFTER
afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
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Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.
THERE ISN'T EVEN A QUESTION OF 'IF' THERE IS A BODY, THE QUESTION ZOOMS PAST AND GOES TO WHAT KIND
35 But some man will say,
How are the dead raised up? and
with what body do they come?
HOW DOES THE SPIRITUAL BODY COME TO LIFE???
36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest
is not quickened, except it die
37 And that which thou sowest,
thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain
NO QUESTIONS LEFT ABOUT RISING UP IN A BODY OR NOT IS THERE?
38 But
God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and
to every seed his own body.
NOTICE, NO 'LAST DAY' BEING BROUGHT UP. JUST A SIMPLE TEACHING ON CHANGE OF BODIES AND WHEN AND HOW
42 So also
is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour;
it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
FIRST WE LIVE THIS WAY, THEN WE LIVE THAT WAY
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
49
And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
NOW COMES THE END TIME MYSTERY. WHAT HAPPENS ON THE LAST AND FINAL DAY WHEN CHRIST RETURNS AND PEOPLE ARE STILL ALIVE?
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery;
We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
NOT EVERYONE DIES AND RESURRECTS BECAUSE ON THE LAST DAY THEY WONT SLEEP FIRST, THEY WILL JUST BE CHANGED
HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO CHANGE BODIES?
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound,
WHO ARE THESE DEAD SINCE ALL BELIEVERS HAVE ALREADY RISEN?
and the dead shall be raised incorruptible,
AND THE ALIVE WILL BE CHANGED?
and we shall be changed.
THOSE SAVED WHO DIED AND RAISED ALREADY PUT ON INCORRUPTION AND HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED IMMORTALITY. THEY ARE ALL OF THE FIRST RESURRECTION.
BUT 'THE DEAD' THEY ARE JUST NOW RISING
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption,
THOSE WHO ARE ALIVE AND CHANGED BECOME IMMORTAL
and this mortal must put on immortality.
WHEN 'THE DEAD' HAVE PUT ON THEIR INCORRUPTIBLE BODY, AND THE 'CHANGED' HAVE BECOME IMMORTAL
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality,
NO MORE DEATH OF THE FLESH AS ALL ARE NOW IN BODIES THAT ONLY GOD CAN KILL
then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
ONLY DEATH LEFT IS LAKE OF FIRE. NO ONE IS GOING TO THE 'GRAVE' BY THE HAND OF ANOTHER MAN EVER AGAIN. NO MORE FEARING MAN WHO CAN KILL THE BODY. WHAT A MESS THAT WOULD CREATE.
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
57 But thanks be to God,
which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
58
Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord.
