Israel's dark side out of the shadows, into the light

[tobewholeagain]

What sickens me the most is the Israeli government sniper teams shooting children. This in itself, is a war crime

IDF shooting children
https://tinyurl.com/yxetctr8

Israel destroying Palestinian fishing boats
https://tinyurl.com/mryr5v79

illegal settlements
https://tinyurl.com/yckn2wzh

I was once a devoted believer in Israel and defended them whenever/wherever I could.
Now I am a bit confused, should I ignore the above or not?
You tell me

 

[RichMan]

You found it on the internet, so it must be true.

 

[RichMan]

Most informational websites have an agenda.
To either support or condemn a group, a person, or a nation.
There are no fact checks, so they can say anything they wish to achieve their intent.
Best to just ignore and not even click on their trash.

 

[Gideon300]

What sickens me the most is the Israeli government sniper teams shooting children. This in itself, is a war crime

IDF shooting children
https://tinyurl.com/yxetctr8

Israel destroying Palestinian fishing boats
https://tinyurl.com/mryr5v79

illegal settlements
https://tinyurl.com/yckn2wzh

I was once a devoted believer in Israel and defended them whenever/wherever I could.
Now I am a bit confused, should I ignore the above or not?
You tell me

I suggest that you look up "Honest Reporting", an organisation that presents news from Israel's point of view. Very often, facts are omitted from other news sources. Palestinian fishing boats are destroyed because they are illegally fishing. Other nations do the same to protect their territorial waters. I won't comment on sniping except to say that a 16 year old with an AK47 can be just as deadly as a 21 year old.

Palestine only exists because the world funds it. Palestine pays the families of murderers a stipend. Israel supplied concrete to Gaza for rebuilding. They took the concrete and built tunnels to enable them to invade Israel.

Personally, I believe any nation has the right to defend itself. Palestine is not, and never has been, interested in peace. Their children are taught to hate Israel virtually from birth. Apart from Egypt, Israel is surrounded by enemies. Iran is developing nukes with the sole purpose of obliterating Israel.

Israel exists by a series of miracles. The people are no longer God's, but the nation is testimony to God's ability to keep His promises.
No, Israel is not perfect. However, it is the only democracy in the region. The Western world should support Israel. That pleases God. Britain (I'm English btw) threw Israel to the Muslim wolves at the end of WW2. Britain also gave away Israel's territory to Muslims in exchange for wartime support and oil. It is no coincidence that Britain is no longer great. The sun set on the British empire decades ago. If the US abandons Israel, that will be the end of the US as a world power.

 

[tobewholeagain]

Most informational websites have an agenda.
To either support or condemn a group, a person, or a nation.
There are no fact checks, so they can say anything they wish to achieve their intent.
Best to just ignore and not even click on their trash.

The information came from a Google search which collected a series of articles covering the topic.

 

[tobewholeagain]

Israel exists by a series of miracles. The people are no longer God's, but the nation is testimony to God's ability to keep His promises.

Here is a promise you cannot ignore-----
Ezekiel
Chapter 21
1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, set thy face toward Jerusalem, and drop thy word toward the holy places, and prophesy against the land of Israel,
3 And say to the land of Israel, Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I am against thee, and will draw forth my sword out of his sheath, and will cut off from thee the righteous and the wicked.
22 At his right hand was the divination for Jerusalem, to appoint captains, to open the mouth in the slaughter, to lift up the voice with shouting, to appoint battering rams against the gates, to cast a mount, and to build a fort.
23 And it shall be unto them as a false divination in their sight, to them that have sworn oaths: but he will call to remembrance the iniquity, that they may be taken.
24 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye have made your iniquity to be remembered, in that your transgressions are discovered, so that in all your doings your sins do appear; because, I say, that ye are come to remembrance, ye shall be taken with the hand.
25 And thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end,
27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.
28 And thou, son of man, prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD concerning the Ammonites, and concerning their reproach; even say thou, The sword, the sword is drawn: for the slaughter it is furbished, to consume because of the glittering:
29 Whiles they see vanity unto thee, whiles they divine a lie unto thee, to bring thee upon the necks of them that are slain, of the wicked, whose day is come, when their iniquity shall have an end.
30 Shall I cause it to return into his sheath? I will judge thee in the place where thou wast created, in the land of thy nativity.
31 And I will pour out mine indignation upon thee, I will blow against thee in the fire of my wrath, and deliver thee into the hand of brutish men, and skilful to destroy.
32 Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

 

[tobewholeagain]

Palestine only exists because the world funds it.

Israel only exists because the USSA funds it.

 

[Gideon300]

Israel only exists because the USSA funds it.

Yes and no. Israel has some remarkable industries. It's been forced to develop its own defence industry, it's GDP is twice that of Iran and more than double that of Ukraine. This in a country of fewer than 10 million people. Palestinians produce poverty, violence and terrorism. Israel employs Palestinian workers. Those who advocate boycotting Israel businesses seem to forget that.

Israel is not perfect. But when you compare it to the surrounding autocracies and failed states, it is a relative paradise.

 

[Gideon300]

Here is a promise you cannot ignore-----
Ezekiel
Chapter 21
1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, set thy face toward Jerusalem, and drop thy word toward the holy places, and prophesy against the land of Israel,
3 And say to the land of Israel, Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I am against thee, and will draw forth my sword out of his sheath, and will cut off from thee the righteous and the wicked.
22 At his right hand was the divination for Jerusalem, to appoint captains, to open the mouth in the slaughter, to lift up the voice with shouting, to appoint battering rams against the gates, to cast a mount, and to build a fort.
23 And it shall be unto them as a false divination in their sight, to them that have sworn oaths: but he will call to remembrance the iniquity, that they may be taken.
24 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye have made your iniquity to be remembered, in that your transgressions are discovered, so that in all your doings your sins do appear; because, I say, that ye are come to remembrance, ye shall be taken with the hand.
25 And thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end,
27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.
28 And thou, son of man, prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD concerning the Ammonites, and concerning their reproach; even say thou, The sword, the sword is drawn: for the slaughter it is furbished, to consume because of the glittering:
29 Whiles they see vanity unto thee, whiles they divine a lie unto thee, to bring thee upon the necks of them that are slain, of the wicked, whose day is come, when their iniquity shall have an end.
30 Shall I cause it to return into his sheath? I will judge thee in the place where thou wast created, in the land of thy nativity.
31 And I will pour out mine indignation upon thee, I will blow against thee in the fire of my wrath, and deliver thee into the hand of brutish men, and skilful to destroy.
32 Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

Already fulfilled. Check your history. Rome destroyed Jerusalem in 70 AD. About 30 years later, Rome destroyed every population centre. Israel effectively ceased to exist. Most (but not all) of the Jewish population emigrated. Rome renamed Israel Palestine.

God also promised to restore Israel. I'd say, "Job done".

 

[gb9]

Already fulfilled. Check your history. Rome destroyed Jerusalem in 70 AD. About 30 years later, Rome destroyed every population centre. Israel effectively ceased to exist. Most (but not all) of the Jewish population emigrated. Rome renamed Israel Palestine.

God also promised to restore Israel. I'd say, "Job done".

i have seen a lot of these anti-Israel talking points. when you say what you just said, they come back and say " those are not the real jews". that is their next talking point.

 

[RichMan]

Israel only exists because the USSA funds it.

Israel exist because it is God's will.

 

[Gideon300]

i have seen a lot of these anti-Israel talking points. when you say what you just said, they come back and say " those are not the real jews". that is their next talking point.

Sure, I've have had that said to me also. However, it is beside the point. The nation Israel stands as witness to God's power to do the impossible. Israel should have been still born. God ensured that she survived and prevails to this day. The pathetic pandering of the West to Russia shows how not to defend yourself. When Israel knows that she will be attacked, she gets in first. Everyone knew that Putin was going to invade Ukraine. I wonder how it would have turned out if Ukraine had attacked first..........

 

[tobewholeagain]

Most informational websites have an agenda.

Every website has an agenda. Some for self serving reasons, some to expose a point for good or bad, others just trying to communicate with fellow human beings.

There are no fact checks, so they can say anything they wish to achieve their intent..

Which includes your post here and now.
3/21/2022
6:20 PM cst
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Best to just ignore and not even click on their trash.

Or any post originated from or participated in by RichMan,

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[tobewholeagain]

Yes and no..

Oh !!! Oh wise one, tell me more p.s. this is a trick question

Israel has some remarkable industries.

Yes, their largest export is flowers.
Isn’t it ironic that the Israeli’s make a profit on the dead Palestinian children by profiting on the sale of the flowers placed on the graves of the children the IDF sniper teams executed.

It's been forced to develop its own defence industry

What are you suggesting, the USA is holding back in giving the murdering Israel's more killing toys? Shame on those Americans.

it's GDP is twice that of Iran and more than double that of Ukraine. This in a country of fewer than 10 million people..

With such power, the Israeli's are becoming god like !!!!

Israel is not perfect.

Perfect is an unreachable goal worth striving for.

But when you compare it to the surrounding autocracies and failed states, it is a relative paradise.

"Compare ?"
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[tobewholeagain]

Israel exist because it is God's will.

And so said the lord-
Ezekiel
Chapter 21

1 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

2 Son of man, set thy face toward Jerusalem, and drop thy word toward the holy places, and prophesy against the land of Israel,

3 And say to the land of Israel, Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I am against thee, and will draw forth my sword out of his sheath, and will cut off from thee the righteous and the wicked.

22 At his right hand was the divination for Jerusalem, to appoint captains, to open the mouth in the slaughter, to lift up the voice with shouting, to appoint battering rams against the gates, to cast a mount, and to build a fort.

23 And it shall be unto them as a false divination in their sight, to them that have sworn oaths: but he will call to remembrance the iniquity, that they may be taken.

24 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because ye have made your iniquity to be remembered, in that your transgressions are discovered, so that in all your doings your sins do appear; because, I say, that ye are come to remembrance, ye shall be taken with the hand.

25 And thou, profane wicked prince of Israel, whose day is come, when iniquity shall have an end,

27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.

28 And thou, son of man, prophesy and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD concerning the Ammonites, and concerning their reproach; even say thou, The sword, the sword is drawn: for the slaughter it is furbished, to consume because of the glittering:

29 Whiles they see vanity unto thee, whiles they divine a lie unto thee, to bring thee upon the necks of them that are slain, of the wicked, whose day is come, when their iniquity shall have an end.

30 Shall I cause it to return into his sheath? I will judge thee in the place where thou wast created, in the land of thy nativity.

31 And I will pour out mine indignation upon thee, I will blow against thee in the fire of my wrath, and deliver thee into the hand of brutish men, and skilful to destroy.

32 Thou shalt be for fuel to the fire; thy blood shall be in the midst of the land; thou shalt be no more remembered: for I the LORD have spoken it.

According to a 2002 study by the Jewish Agency, "the number of Jews in the world is declining at an average of 50,000 per year."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population

 

[tobewholeagain]

According to a 2002 study by the Jewish Agency, "the number of Jews in the world is declining at an average of 50,000 per year."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population

The one gift above all other gifts is the gift of choice. God gave them a choice and then waited to see if his chosen ones would follow Him in His footsteps as He had commanded. Sadly they have not changed; sad, sad indeed.

The site link states that the Israeli’s must---

Repent
Ask for forgiveness
Honor Thy Father & Thy Mother
Love the stranger as you would love Thyself​

And the Lord says He will forgive you. I believe Him, so should you
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[StarsMeetStars]

from what I know...The real jews are scattered I believed most of the "jew" reside in Israel aren't the jews from the lost tribe not all but most aren't. Lost tribe heard God's voice...led by God gives vision to their young descendant and are gathering them soon I guess. Mostly found in US...UK,.. or even Canada those lost tribe most likely African I suppose? The government doesn't even give Jews & Christian to pray in temple mount so who they truly serve its apparent. Satan loves to make a mockery of God's work as always. I am not sure if Israel flag...about Star of David exist or not I do not know... or is it really the Star of Solomon or Star of Remphan...or The Star of Moloch

 

[JStates]

from what I know...The real jews are scattered I believed most of the "jew" reside in Israel aren't the jews from the lost tribe not all but most aren't. Lost tribe heard God's voice...led by God gives vision to their young descendant and are gathering them soon I guess. Mostly found in US...UK,.. or even Canada those lost tribe most likely African I suppose? The government doesn't even give Jews & Christian to pray in temple mount so who they truly serve its apparent. Satan loves to make a mockery of God's work as always. I am not sure if Israel flag...about Star of David exist or not I do not know... or is it really the Star of Solomon or Star of Remphan...or The Star of Moloch

It's a confusing topic for sure. The Jews did a really poor job of maintaining their genetic identity as commanded by God. God knows who they are. I do think many of them are in Israel, because God has clearly fought for that nation many times over. But I don't think the white Ashkenazi Jews are the only Jews as some of them claim.

The Temple Mount is actually not the site of the Biblical Temple, however. Many people still don't know this today (sadly) but it's actually the site of the Roman Fortress Antonia. The Temple was in the City of David, which is to the southeast a bit. As Christ said, nothing remains of the Temple but the stone foundations. The Western Wall is part of the old Roman fortifications. So sad and ironic that many go there to pray. Look up the work of Ron Wyatt if you are interested in the topic of rediscovered Biblical sites.

The so-called "Star of David" is definitely something else. It is the visual representation of the 6-6-6 to the secret societies and mystery schools. Six pointed star, with six equilateral triangles, and a hexagon in the middle. You begin to see that the modern religion of Judaism is NOT the same religion God gave to the Hebrews thousands of years ago. The "Star of David" is sacred and employed by Catholic orders, Islam, Freemasonry, occult schools, as well as "Judaism." Something ain't right there.

 

[StarsMeetStars]

you're right I guess after revisiting...the stories and all that..especially the gospel....it make sense why Israel's flag is that way and all those stupid cruel sacrifice in the old testament were done...all those inhumane things...

"Truly I say to you, the stars complete all these things. When Saklas completes the time span that's been determined for him, their first star will appear with the generations, and they'll finish what's been said. Then they'll sleep around in my name, murder their children, 55 and [they'll …] evil and […] the realms, bringing the generations and presenting them to Saklas. [And] after that […] will bring the twelve tribes of [Israel] from […], and the [generations] will all serve Saklas, sinning in my name. And your star will [rule] over the thirteenth realm."

 

[BeeThePeace]

What sickens me the most is the Israeli government sniper teams shooting children. This in itself, is a war crime

IDF shooting children
https://tinyurl.com/yxetctr8

Israel destroying Palestinian fishing boats
https://tinyurl.com/mryr5v79

illegal settlements
https://tinyurl.com/yckn2wzh

I was once a devoted believer in Israel and defended them whenever/wherever I could.
Now I am a bit confused, should I ignore the above or not?
You tell me

No. But it's tradition to side with Israel in all things because it behooves Israel to continually exploit its role as perpetual victim. Thus insuring their aggression is excused, ignored,denied, or pardoned .

It is against Israel's laws for Palestinian homes to drill wells and insure a free water source in that desert. Against the law!
Instead,Palestinians are made by law to pay Israel for a water bill for water piped to Palestinian homes.
That's control over life and death in that desert land.

Israeli children are taught to hate Palestinians as a matter of coarse.Perhaps not all do hate, but still.

So no, that Israel perpetrates acts of terrorism against Palestinians is not a surprise. Though it is to those who cling only to western reporting of events there.