We need to take another look at The Garden of Eden

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Ogom said:
If you really are "dead" to Law and Alive to --Spirit as the Quoted verses say, then You Have come to the point in your walk with Christ -- In Whatever Ways You have --that you are Following the Spirit (Sinless) in Whatever Areas of Your Life that You ARe following Christ.
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Another one using large letters 🙄
 
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Oblio said:
This settles the garden of Eden issue.
"17 For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!" - Romans 5:17
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are you not one man?
 
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Obey-JESUS said:
He sounds exactly like atheists trying to dictate why they are going to pass GOD'S test ...without giving up their lives.
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Atheist sharing God’s grace. That’s funny! 🤣
 
Magenta

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Obey-JESUS said:
are you not one man?
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The "one man" in that passage first refers to Adam and then to Jesus Christ.

Of course you are so hung up on a tree that you overlook Adam.
 
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Obey-JESUS said:
You can end up sealed and a Child of GOD some day ...but right now ...no. A Child of GOD doesn't have repeated willful sin in their life. They are Righteous. To be clear ...you can't be Righteous with repeated willful sin ...hello? Is this not obvious?


1 John 3:4-10 ESV

4 Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness.

5 You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin.

6 No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him.

7 Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous.

8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil.

9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.

10 By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.

// You just read the reason for The Son of GOD to be here was to destroy the works of the devil ...and yet, you continue to do them.
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Do you believe this verse you quoted?

"9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God."
 
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Inquisitor said:
Do you believe this verse you quoted?

"9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God."
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YES!!!

uhhh ...so uhhh ...you are not Born of GOD yet.
 
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Obey-JESUS said:
Do you think The Father has given you to His Son yet?
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What do you care what I think? I do not care for what you think on this matter either, meaning, you have made it abundantly clear that you believe yourself to be in rarified company here, telling quite a few people they are not saved, repeatedly and willfully slandering them, condemning yourself with your own words, showing everyone your hypocrisy as you act the Pharisee and devil's advocate.

I know to Whom I belong, and who you belong to (John 8:44), as well.
 
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Magenta said:
What do you care what I think? I do not care for what you think on this matter either, meaning, you have made it abundantly clear that you believe yourself to be in rarified company here, telling quite a few people they are not saved, repeatedly and willfully slandering them, condemning yourself with your own words, showing everyone your hypocrisy as you act the Pharisee and devil's advocate.

I know to Whom I belong, and who you belong to, as well.
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Hint: repeated willful sin means GOD didn't Elect you yet. You are not sealed. You are not His Child. You do not have The Life of CHRIST.
 
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Obey-JESUS said:
yes, i'm satan for telling you stop repeated willful sin to become Righteous ...to get Right with GOD.
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Well, you just played your REAL hand; you're a works salvationist, which is what Satan wants people to think. That they earn salvation by what they do.

NO ONE "becomes righteous" by ceasing to sin. That's poppycock.

God's righteousness is CREDITED to those who place their trust in the Savior, Jesus Christ, for salvation.

There is no other way.
 
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Obey-JESUS said:
You all are tempting CHRIST with your repeated willful sin!


1Co 10:9
Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
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This is nuts. Jesus CAN'T be tempted. But then, what do you know about the Bible?

James 1:13 - When tempted, no one should say, “God is tempting me.” For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt anyone;

Satan once tempted Christ and it didn't work out well for him.

Learn your Bible.
 
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Ogom said:
(M i l k)
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scriptural definition of milk:

  • repentance from dead works,
  • faith toward God,
  • baptisms,
  • laying on of hands,
  • resurrection of the dead,
  • eternal judgment.

Hebrews 6:1-2


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Obey-JESUS said:
The kiss blowing hyper grace never ends. You chose death when you reached past CHRIST on The Cross to sin.
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And you have played your hand again. The words "hyper-grace" is pejorative.

How can there be too much of God's grace? Your position is becoming clearer and clearer.
 
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