We need to take another look at The Garden of Eden

[Obey-JESUS]

Eve's Reborn spirit seed is what crushes the head of the serpent. Therefore, our Reborn spirit crushes the head of the serpent, which means we overcome sin slavery through CHRIST.
We need to be born of the Spirit to enter The Kingdom ...to have access to The Tree of LIFE.

Gen 3:15 NIV
And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”

...so there is also enmity between the Reborn and fallen (satan's children).

Eve is the spirit of The Body of CHRIST, Adam is the soul of the body of sin.

If we are IN Adam (sin) we die, our soul would be thinking with worldly fallen flesh.

1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

If we Join JESUS on The Cross we will not serve sin anymore:

Romans 6:5-6
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

We can't be Reborn without The Image of JESUS (Obey Him for SALVATION). The HOLY SPIRIT in our Temple is our connection to Life.
The church system thinks they are Reborn and can still eat from the tree of knowledge (repeated willful sin).


How is repeated willful sin not an attempt to save your fallen life? What do you think picking up your cross and Following Him means?

"LEST HE PUT FORTH HIS HAND, AND TAKE ALSO OF THE TREE OF LIFE, AND EAT, AND LIVE FOR EVER:"
GOD was telling us that the church system is not going to have Eternal Life ...because they think they can eat from both Trees! "Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues."


Your walk is about your spiritual intentions (heart). The carnal mind is about your soul (mind) and spirit (intentions) both being about the flesh. Double-minded.

Your spirit is dead because it isn't using The Tree of LIFE!

You are not walking in The SPIRIT if you intend to repeat willful sin.

You eat from the tree of knowledge via your spirit. You made definitions for your morality intentions.

James 4:8
Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

Romans 8:3-6
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.



We are Adam and Eve ...we can't have the Life of CHRIST and continue to live in repeated willful sin.
The Garden was GOD telling us about The Test we are in right now.

Genesis 3:24
So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming SWORD which turned every way, to keep THE WAY of the TREE OF LIFE.

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

//Being Born of The SPIRIT is how we walk past the Angels guarding The Tree of LIFE ...we use The Way ...and The Sword (The Word) doesn't let you use alternative ways.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Interesting read thanks for taking the time to share it for consideration God bless

 

[Dino246]

Eve's Reborn spirit seed is what crushes the head of the serpent.

Huh? Jesus is the seed referred to in Genesis 3:15, but He isn't "reborn". I'm not sure where you got that idea.

Therefore, our Reborn spirit crushes the head of the serpent

Um, no; Jesus crushed the head of the serpent already. We don't need to do so.

which means we overcome sin slavery through CHRIST.

We do indeed overcome slavery to sin through Christ.

We need to be born of the Spirit to enter The Kingdom ...to have access to The Tree of LIFE.

Correct.

Eve is the spirit of The Body of CHRIST, Adam is the soul of the body of sin.

Again, no. There is nothing in Scripture suggesting that.

If we are IN Adam (sin) we die, our soul would be thinking with worldly fallen flesh.

1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

Methinks you missed something here... we all die the death of the flesh, saved or not. Only those in Christ are made alive apart from the flesh.

If we Join JESUS on The Cross we will not serve sin anymore:

If? We are crucified with Christ and yet we live.

Romans 6:5-6 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

The church system thinks they are Reborn and can still eat from the tree of knowledge (repeated willful sin).

This is starting to sound like a broadbrush condemnation of the Church. That doesn't go well around here.

"LEST HE PUT FORTH HIS HAND, AND TAKE ALSO OF THE TREE OF LIFE, AND EAT, AND LIVE FOR EVER:"
GOD was telling us that the church system is not going to have Eternal Life

No, God was stating His reason for excluding the individuals known as Adam and Eve from the garden of Eden. He did not want them eating from the tree in their sinful state.

...because they think they can eat from both Trees! "Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues."

More broadbrush condemnation.

That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

But we have the mind of Christ.

We are Adam and Eve ...we can't have the Life of CHRIST and continue to live in repeated willful sin.
The Garden was GOD telling us about The Test we are in right now.

Again, no; the Garden was historical, not allegorical.

 

[Runningman]

Eve's Reborn spirit seed is what crushes the head of the serpent. Therefore, our Reborn spirit crushes the head of the serpent, which means we overcome sin slavery through CHRIST.
We need to be born of the Spirit to enter The Kingdom ...to have access to The Tree of LIFE.

Gen 3:15 NIV
And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”

...so there is also enmity between the Reborn and fallen (satan's children).

Eve is the spirit of The Body of CHRIST, Adam is the soul of the body of sin.

If we are IN Adam (sin) we die, our soul would be thinking with worldly fallen flesh.

1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

If we Join JESUS on The Cross we will not serve sin anymore:

Romans 6:5-6
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

We can't be Reborn without The Image of JESUS (Obey Him for SALVATION). The HOLY SPIRIT in our Temple is our connection to Life.
The church system thinks they are Reborn and can still eat from the tree of knowledge (repeated willful sin).


How is repeated willful sin not an attempt to save your fallen life? What do you think picking up your cross and Following Him means?

"LEST HE PUT FORTH HIS HAND, AND TAKE ALSO OF THE TREE OF LIFE, AND EAT, AND LIVE FOR EVER:"
GOD was telling us that the church system is not going to have Eternal Life ...because they think they can eat from both Trees! "Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues."


Your walk is about your spiritual intentions (heart). The carnal mind is about your soul (mind) and spirit (intentions) both being about the flesh. Double-minded.

Your spirit is dead because it isn't using The Tree of LIFE!

You are not walking in The SPIRIT if you intend to repeat willful sin.

You eat from the tree of knowledge via your spirit. You made definitions for your morality intentions.

James 4:8
Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

Romans 8:3-6
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

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We are Adam and Eve ...we can't have the Life of CHRIST and continue to live in repeated willful sin.
The Garden was GOD telling us about The Test we are in right now.

Genesis 3:24
So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming SWORD which turned every way, to keep THE WAY of the TREE OF LIFE.

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

//Being Born of The SPIRIT is how we walk past the Angels guarding The Tree of LIFE ...we use The Way ...and The Sword (The Word) doesn't let you use alternative ways.

Jesus wasn't sinning before He picked up His cross nor did being crucified enable Him to live a sinless life. So why would we need to symbolically pick up a cross to stop sinning?

I think what Jesus really meant here is that if you want to be His follower then be prepared to literally be martyred for your beliefs.

Matthew 16:24-28
24Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. 25For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. 26For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? 27For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
28Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

 

[Obey-JESUS]

Huh? Jesus is the seed referred to in Genesis 3:15, but He isn't "reborn". I'm not sure where you got that idea.


Um, no; Jesus crushed the head of the serpent already. We don't need to do so.


We do indeed overcome slavery to sin through Christ.


Correct.


Again, no. There is nothing in Scripture suggesting that.


Methinks you missed something here... we all die the death of the flesh, saved or not. Only those in Christ are made alive apart from the flesh.


If? We are crucified with Christ and yet we live.


This is starting to sound like a broadbrush condemnation of the Church. That doesn't go well around here.


No, God was stating His reason for excluding the individuals known as Adam and Eve from the garden of Eden. He did not want them eating from the tree in their sinful state.


More broadbrush condemnation.


But we have the mind of Christ.


Again, no; the Garden was historical, not allegorical.

GOD sees the future ...He saw we each had our own first sin ...we voted for this fallen place with it. You pass Judgment Day by correcting your separation from Him ...with His Son's Image.

 

[Obey-JESUS]

Jesus wasn't sinning before He picked up His cross nor did being crucified enable Him to live a sinless life. So why would we need to symbolically pick up a cross to stop sinning?

I think what Jesus really meant here is that if you want to be His follower then be prepared to literally be martyred for your beliefs.

Matthew 16:24-28
24Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. 25For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. 26For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? 27For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
28Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

i just showed you that the entire Garden of Eden story was telling you that you can't live in sin and have The Life of CHRIST at the same time. You want to eat from both Trees. Doesn't work that way.


Hebrews 6:4-6
It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, 5 who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age 6 and who have fallen away, to be brought back to repentance. To their loss they are CRUCIFYING THE SON OF GOD ALL OVER AGAIN and subjecting him to PUBLIC DISGRACE.

 

[Dino246]

GOD sees the future

Yes, He does, and only He does.

...He saw we each had our own first sin

That's awkwardly worded, and not found in Scripture as such.

...we voted for this fallen place with it.

We weren't given the choice. There is nothing in Scripture to suggest that we were.

You pass Judgment Day by correcting your separation from Him ...with His Son's Image.

"Pass" judgment day? We are indeed spared eternal condemnation through Christ, but it seems that you're reading some sci-fi or whack-job version of Scripture instead of a reliable translation.

 

[Dino246]

i just showed you that the entire Garden of Eden story was telling you that you can't live in sin and have The Life of CHRIST at the same time. You want to eat from both Trees. Doesn't work that way.

While the intent of it is valid, your "garden of Eden" story is replete with error. Genesis 3 is not actually saying what you think it is saying.

 

[Obey-JESUS]

Yes, He does, and only He does.


That's awkwardly worded, and not found in Scripture as such.


We weren't given the choice. There is nothing in Scripture to suggest that we were.


"Pass" judgment day? We are indeed spared eternal condemnation through Christ, but it seems that you're reading some sci-fi or whack-job version of Scripture instead of a reliable translation.

JESUS was The Last Adam as the Spirit seed of Eve. He crushed the serpents head so that we can also through Him.

JESUS is The Cornerstone to Overcome the serpent.



This doesn't make any sense if Adam was literal: ...It is talking about us becoming Reborn.

1 Corinthians 15:44-49
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

 

[Magenta]

we voted for this fallen place with it.

What does this mean? Please explain.

 

[Obey-JESUS]

What does this mean? Please explain.

We voted for this place where kids get cancer because we wanted sin to be possible ...this is what we get.

 

[Aerials1978]

We voted for this place where kids get cancer because we wanted sin to be possible ...this is what we get.

Honestly, where are you getting this from?

 

[Nehemiah6]

Eve's Reborn spirit seed is what crushes the head of the serpent. Therefore, our Reborn spirit crushes the head of the serpent, which means we overcome sin slavery through CHRIST. We need to be born of the Spirit to enter The Kingdom ...to have access to The Tree of LIFE.

No one needs access to the Tree of Life in this life. Everyone needs access to the Bread of Life -- the Lord Jesus Christ -- through faith in Him and His finished work of redemption. Eve does not have any "reborn spirit seed". Christ is the "seed of the woman" in that He was born of Mary through the virgin birth. And we overcome sin by the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit (and that is indeed through Christ).

 

[Sudakar]

Eve's Reborn spirit seed is what crushes the head of the serpent. Therefore, our Reborn spirit crushes the head of the serpent, which means we overcome sin slavery through CHRIST.
We need to be born of the Spirit to enter The Kingdom ...to have access to The Tree of LIFE.

Gen 3:15 NIV
And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”

...so there is also enmity between the Reborn and fallen (satan's children).

Eve is the spirit of The Body of CHRIST, Adam is the soul of the body of sin.

If we are IN Adam (sin) we die, our soul would be thinking with worldly fallen flesh.

1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

If we Join JESUS on The Cross we will not serve sin anymore:

Romans 6:5-6
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

We can't be Reborn without The Image of JESUS (Obey Him for SALVATION). The HOLY SPIRIT in our Temple is our connection to Life.
The church system thinks they are Reborn and can still eat from the tree of knowledge (repeated willful sin).


How is repeated willful sin not an attempt to save your fallen life? What do you think picking up your cross and Following Him means?

"LEST HE PUT FORTH HIS HAND, AND TAKE ALSO OF THE TREE OF LIFE, AND EAT, AND LIVE FOR EVER:"
GOD was telling us that the church system is not going to have Eternal Life ...because they think they can eat from both Trees! "Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues."


Your walk is about your spiritual intentions (heart). The carnal mind is about your soul (mind) and spirit (intentions) both being about the flesh. Double-minded.

Your spirit is dead because it isn't using The Tree of LIFE!

You are not walking in The SPIRIT if you intend to repeat willful sin.

You eat from the tree of knowledge via your spirit. You made definitions for your morality intentions.

James 4:8
Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

Romans 8:3-6
For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

View attachment 237703

We are Adam and Eve ...we can't have the Life of CHRIST and continue to live in repeated willful sin.
The Garden was GOD telling us about The Test we are in right now.

Genesis 3:24
So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming SWORD which turned every way, to keep THE WAY of the TREE OF LIFE.

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

//Being Born of The SPIRIT is how we walk past the Angels guarding The Tree of LIFE ...we use The Way ...and The Sword (The Word) doesn't let you use alternative ways.

They lost access to the tree of life by choosing the forbidden knowledge of good & evil? Shouldn't we be delivered from the forbidden knowledge of good and evil in order to restore access?

 

[Obey-JESUS]

They lost access to the tree of life by choosing the forbidden knowledge of good & evil? Shouldn't we be delivered from the forbidden knowledge of good and evil in order to restore access?

Um, being on The Narrow Path of SALVATION is avoiding making your own plan (tree of knowledge). Choosing that wicked tree is choosing to make your meaning of Life ...to be death ...separation from GOD. You have the Free Will to choose it ...but it doesn't end well. i think it gets set on fire so you don't want to be eating from it.

 

[Sudakar]

Um, being on The Narrow Path of SALVATION is avoiding making your own plan (tree of knowledge). Choosing that wicked tree is choosing to make your meaning of Life ...to be death ...separation from GOD. You have the Free Will to choose it ...but it doesn't end well. i think it gets set on fire so you don't want to be eating from it.

Do you believe Jesus delivered us from the forbidden knowledge of good and evil by His perfect sacrifice as per Romans7:4,6?

 

[Obey-JESUS]

Do you believe Jesus delivered us from the forbidden knowledge of good and evil by His perfect sacrifice as per Romans7:4,6?

Yes, the problem is that most people don't accept the Free Gift ...they just claim that they did. It involves Joining Him on The Cross, most want to blow Him kisses and expected to magically be covered in His Blood. ...kiss blowing hyper grace.

 

[Sudakar]

Yes, the problem is that most people don't accept the Free Gift ...they just claim that they did. It involves Joining Him on The Cross, most want to blow Him kisses and expected to magically be covered in His Blood. ...kiss blowing hyper grace.

So do you accept all your thoughts as good & righteous? Do you say you had evil thoughts?

 

[Obey-JESUS]

temptation happens in the mind, that means the tree of knowledge is in us. It means a lot of things were symbolic for The Garden.

“So He was saying, “What is the kingdom of God like, and to what shall I compare it? It is like a mustard seed, which a man took and threw into his own garden; and it grew and became a tree, and the birds of the air nested in its branches.” (Luke 13:18–19).

Tree in the Garden!

Eve was the first to eat from the tree ...our spirits are what eat from the Trees.

"Eve" means "to live" and was a companion to Adam ...our soul. The only way we live in CHRIST is if our spirit is living.

Eve's seed crushes the head of the serpent ...so do we if we have The SPIRIT.

Gen 3:15 NIV
And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”

The Woman having offspring means there is a body of people. So there is also a body of the antichrist spirit.

 

[Dino246]

temptation happens in the mind, that means the tree of knowledge is in us. It means a lot of things were symbolic for The Garden.

“So He was saying, “What is the kingdom of God like, and to what shall I compare it? It is like a mustard seed, which a man took and threw into his own garden; and it grew and became a tree, and the birds of the air nested in its branches.” (Luke 13:18–19).

Tree in the Garden!

Eve was the first to eat from the tree ...our spirits are what eat from the Trees.

"Eve" means "to live" and was a companion to Adam ...our soul. The only way we live in CHRIST is if our spirit is living.

Eve's seed crushes the head of the serpent ...so do we if we have The SPIRIT.

Gen 3:15 NIV
And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel.”

The Woman having offspring means there is a body of people. So there is also a body of the antichrist spirit.

This is New Age hogwash, not biblical Christianity.