Does the BIBLE describe a coming Nuclear War?

[VCO]

NO it is not talking about the city of Babylon, because it says "a nomad will not pitch his tent there", and even our Nomads in US Military uniforms, pitched their tents there. IT IS TALKING ABOUT THE KINGDOM OF BABYLON.

 

[VCO]

NO it is not talking about the city of Babylon, because it says "a nomad will not pitch his tent there", and even our Nomads in US Military uniforms, pitched their tents there. IT IS TALKING ABOUT THE KINGDOM OF BABYLON.

 

[Bowman]

Silliness...

They already have the RFID microchip being tested in Australia on humans for buying and selling as a replacement for anything financial, and it is in some Alzheimer's patients in Florida, and in Canada it is offered as a replacement for bank cards. Those RFID chips can track movement, and can find someone lost, store medical records, and all bank records. The number within the chip is fifteen digits, three groups of five numbers similar to a social security number. Now when this becomes MANDATORY at the orders of a World Dictator, it will be necessary to expand the numbers to identify every individual on the planet and give new ones to future generations, and that most likely in it's final form would be thee groups of six numbers; hence the 6-6-6. That experiment in Australia worked and is being held back as contingency plan for a world-wide economic crisis. The test were ran prior to the year 2000 when all the world thought every computer would shut down when the date within the computers could not compute the year being 2000, triggering the feared world-wide economic crisis. The person that developed the microchip emergency plan was none other than Dr. Henry Kissinger.

If you take the 666 mentioned in Revelation (there are also numerous other textual number variants, btw) to represent unrighteousness.....well, then you must take 144,000 to be the number of the Righteous...how then does this number fit in...?

 

[Bowman]

Since when are Christians not killed in War? It is talking about the people of the evil nation will be whipped out if they do not flee the country first, while the people of the godly nations will be spared in such a War. The Christians on a battlefield along side their Evil Enemies, certainly will be killed when a NUKE hits in close proximity to them, but they remain eternally alive in heaven with Christ; while the evil dead begin their eternal torment in hades and hell.

LOOK at this again:

Isaiah 13:17-20 (HCSB)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Look! I am stirring up the Medes{Iran} against them, who cannot be bought off with silver and who have no desire for gold.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]⌊Their⌋ bows will cut young men to pieces. They will have no compassion on little ones; they will not look with pity on children.
{I have shot several deer with a bow, and NEVER has my arrow done that; so this clearly is symbolism for modern day weapons.}
[SUP]19 [/SUP]And Babylon {Iraq}, the jewel of the kingdoms {it is NOT talking about the city of Babylon, but rather the Kingdom of Babylon}, the glory of the pride of the Chaldeans, will be like Sodom and Gomorrah when God overthrew them.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]It will never be inhabited or lived in from generation to generation; a nomad will not pitch his tent there, and shepherds will not let ⌊their flocks⌋ rest there.


Clearly that enter context is talking about when GOD calls the Iranian Army to attack Iraq. If ISIS takes over all of Iraq, we could be VERY CLOSE to seeing this prophecy fulfilled. BUT LOOK, at the hands of the Iranian Army (who do not know GOD is manipulating them to do HIS Will), they use weapons that will leave IRAQ, Southern Jordan, and Syria (the Babylonian Kingdom) totally destroyed like Sodom and Gomorrah, to where It will never be inhabited or lived in from generation to generation. The ONLY weapons on Earth that can accomplish that are NUCLEAR.

That is pure silliness, brother.....I suggest not to waste your time unless you can explain exactly how it is that a manmade war machine can discriminate between a saved person and an unsaved person...

 

[VCO]

That is pure silliness, brother.....I suggest not to waste your time unless you can explain exactly how it is that a manmade war machine can discriminate between a saved person and an unsaved person...

It cannot, but GOD has the right to punish an entire NATION for the sins of the majority, and even for the sins of the past, EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE A FEW CHRISTIANS THERE.

The US Army and Marines lost 100 chaplains killed in action during World War II: the third highest casualty rate.
Wikipedia

Being on the right side and being a born again Christian does NOT guarantee you will not be killed in Battle.

Read it for yourself, GOD WILL USE ARMIES OF THE EARTH TO UTTERLY DESTROY THE KINGDOM OF BABYLON, which includes southern Jordan and most of Syria. GOD WARNED PEOPLE TO FLEE THE LAND of the Babylonians and to take others with you. EVEN if you remain there, you will be killed too. BOMBS kill indiscriminately, anyone in the blast zone. Therefore, if US Troops are there at that time, they too will be killed. I REPEAT THE PROPHECY is against the Kingdom of BABYLON, AND not just only against the evil inhabitants of Babylon. Jeremiah also Warned about this SAME WAR, perhaps you can understand him better:

Jeremiah 50:8-46 (HCSB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] Escape from Babylon; depart from the Chaldeans’ land. Be like the rams that lead the flock.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] For I will soon stir up and bring against Babylon an assembly of great nations from the north country. They will line up in battle formation against her; from there she will be captured. Their arrows will be like those of a skilled warrior who does not return empty-handed.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] The Chaldeans will become plunder; all Babylon’s plunderers will be fully satisfied. ⌊This is⌋ the LORD’s declaration.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] Because you rejoice, because you sing in triumph— you who plundered My inheritance— because you frolic like a young cow treading grain and neigh like stallions,
[SUP]12 [/SUP] your mother will be utterly humiliated; she who bore you will be put to shame. Look! She will lag behind all the nations— a dry land, a wilderness, an Arabah.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Because of the LORD’s wrath, she will not be inhabited; she will become a desolation, every bit of her. Everyone who passes through Babylon will be horrified and scoff because of all her wounds.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Line up in battle formation around Babylon, all you archers! Shoot at her! Do not spare an arrow, for she has sinned against the LORD.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] Raise a war cry against her on every side! She has thrown up her hands ⌊in surrender⌋; her defense towers have fallen; her walls are demolished. Since this is the LORD’s vengeance, take out your vengeance on her; as she has done, do the same to her.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] Cut off the sower from Babylon as well as him who wields the sickle at harvest time. Because of the oppressor’s sword, each will turn to his own people, each will flee to his own land.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Israel is a stray lamb, chased by lions. The first who devoured him was the king of Assyria; the last one who crushed his bones was Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] Therefore, this is what the LORD of Hosts, the God of Israel, says: “I am about to punish the king of Babylon and his land ☜ ☜ just as I punished the king of Assyria.
[SUP]19 [/SUP] I will return Israel to his grazing land, and he will feed on Carmel and Bashan; he will be satisfied in the hill country of Ephraim and of Gilead.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] In those days and at that time— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— one will search for Israel’s guilt, but there will be none, and for Judah’s sins, but they will not be found, for I will forgive those I leave as a remnant.
[SUP]21 [/SUP] “Go against the land of Merathaim, and against those living in Pekod. Put them to the sword; completely destroy them— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— do everything I have commanded you.
[SUP]22 [/SUP] The sound of war is in the land— a great destruction.
[SUP]23 [/SUP] How the hammer of the whole earth is cut down and smashed! What a horror Babylon has become among the nations!
[SUP]24 [/SUP] Babylon, I laid a trap for you, and you were caught, but you did not even know it. You were found and captured because you fought against the LORD.
[SUP]25 [/SUP] The LORD opened His armory and brought out His weapons of wrath, because it is a task of the Lord GOD of Hosts in the land of the Chaldeans.
[SUP]26 [/SUP] Come against her from the most distant places. Open her granaries; pile her up like mounds of grain and completely destroy her. Leave her no survivors.
[SUP]27 [/SUP] Put all her young bulls to the sword; let them go down to the slaughter. Woe to them, because their day has come, the time of their punishment.
[SUP]28 [/SUP] “⌊There is⌋ a voice of fugitives and those who escape from the land of Babylon announcing in Zion the vengeance of the LORD our God, the vengeance for His temple.
[SUP]29 [/SUP] Summon the archers to Babylon, all who string the bow; camp all around her; let none escape. Repay her according to her deeds; just as she has done, do the same to her, for she has acted arrogantly against the LORD, against the Holy One of Israel.
[SUP]30[/SUP] Therefore, her young men will fall in her public squares; all the warriors will perish in that day. ⌊This is⌋ the LORD’s declaration.
[SUP]31 [/SUP] Look, I am against you, you arrogant one— ⌊this is⌋ the declaration of the Lord GOD of Hosts— because your day has come, the time when I will punish you.
[SUP]32 [/SUP] The arrogant will stumble and fall with no one to pick him up. I will set fire to his cities, and it will consume everything around him.”
[SUP]33 [/SUP] This is what the LORD of Hosts says: Israelites and Judeans alike have been oppressed. All their captors hold them fast; they refuse to release them.
[SUP]34 [/SUP] Their Redeemer is strong; Yahweh of Hosts is His name. He will fervently plead their case so that He might bring rest to the earth but turmoil to those who live in Babylon.
[SUP]35 [/SUP] A sword is over the Chaldeans— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— against those who live in Babylon, against her officials, and against her sages.
[SUP]36 [/SUP] A sword is against the diviners, and they will act foolishly. A sword is against her heroic warriors, and they will be terrified.
[SUP]37 [/SUP] A sword is against his horses and chariots and against all the foreigners among them, and they will be like women. A sword is against her treasuries, and they will be plundered.
[SUP]38 [/SUP] A drought will come on her waters, and they will be dried up. For it is a land of carved images, and they go mad because of terrifying things.
[SUP]39 [/SUP] Therefore, desert creatures will live with hyenas, and ostriches will also live in her. It will never again be inhabited or lived in through all generations. ☜ ☜
[SUP]40 [/SUP] Just as God demolished Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring towns— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— so no one will live there; no human being will even stay in it as a temporary resident.
[SUP]41 [/SUP] Look! A people comes from the north. A great nation and many kings will be stirred up from the remote regions of the earth. {This is an Earthly WAR that has not happened YET!}
[SUP]42 [/SUP] They grasp bow and javelin. They are cruel and show no mercy. Their voice roars like the sea, and they ride on horses, lined up like men in battle formation against you, Daughter Babylon.
[SUP]43 [/SUP] The king of Babylon has heard reports about them, and his hands fall helpless. Distress has seized him— pain, like a woman in labor.
[SUP]44 [/SUP] “Look, it will be like a lion coming from the thickets of the Jordan to the watered grazing land. Indeed, I will chase Babylon away from her ⌊land⌋ in a flash. I will appoint whoever is chosen for her. For who is like Me? Who will summon Me? Who is the shepherd who can stand against Me?”
[SUP]45 [/SUP] Therefore, hear the plans that the LORD has drawn up against Babylon and the strategies He has devised against the land of the Chaldeans: Certainly the flock’s little lambs will be dragged away; certainly the grazing land will be made desolate because of them.
[SUP]46 [/SUP] At the sound of Babylon’s conquest the earth will quake; a cry will be heard among the nations.

 

[MarcR]

I don't deny that nuclear war is possible. Man(kind) has acted in self destructive ways since Adam ate the forbidden fruit.

What we need to keep straight is the fact that what God says He will do, He does NOT need man's weapons to accomplish.

 

[VCO]

I don't deny that nuclear war is possible. Man(kind) has acted in self destructive ways since Adam ate the forbidden fruit.

What we need to keep straight is the fact that what God says He will do, He does NOT need man's weapons to accomplish.

Jeremiah 50:9 (HCSB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] For I will soon stir up and bring against Babylon an assembly of great nations from the north country. They will line up in battle formation against her; from there she will be captured. Their arrows will be like those of a skilled warrior who does not return empty-handed.

Isaiah 13:17-20 (HCSB)
17 Look! I am stirring up the Medes {Iran} against them, who cannot be bought off with silver and who have no desire for gold.
18 ⌊Their⌋ bows will cut young men to pieces. They will have no compassion on little ones; they will not look with pity on children.
{I have shot several deer with a bow, and NEVER has my arrow done that; so this clearly is symbolism for modern day weapons.}
19 And Babylon {Iraq}, the jewel of the kingdoms {it is NOT talking about the city of Babylon, but rather the Kingdom of Babylon}, the glory of the pride of the Chaldeans, will be like Sodom and Gomorrah when God overthrew them.
20 It will never be inhabited or lived in from generation to generation; a nomad will not pitch his tent there, and shepherds will not let ⌊their flocks⌋ rest there.

Isaiah 19:2 (ASV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] And I will stir up the Egyptians against the Egyptians: and they shall fight every one against his brother, and every one against his neighbor; city against city, and kingdom against kingdom.

Amos 6:14 (NIV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] For the LORD God Almighty declares, "I will stir up a nation against you, O house of Israel, that will oppress you all the way from Lebo Hamath to the valley of the Arabah."

Zechariah 9:13 (ASV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] For I have bent Judah for me, I have filled the bow with Ephraim; and I will stir up thy sons, O Zion, against thy sons, O Greece, and will make thee as the sword of a mighty man.


Isaiah 37:6-7 (ASV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] And Isaiah said unto them, Thus shall ye say to your master, Thus saith Jehovah, Be not afraid of the words that thou hast heard, wherewith the servants of the king of Assyria have blasphemed me.
[SUP]7 [/SUP] Behold, I will put a spirit in him, and he shall hear tidings, and shall return unto his own land; and I will cause him to fall by the sword in his own land.

Jeremiah 19:7 (ASV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] And I will make void the counsel of Judah and Jerusalem in this place; and I will cause them to fall by the sword before their enemies, and by the hand of them that seek their life: and their dead bodies will I give to be food for the birds of the heavens, and for the beasts of the earth.

Ezekiel 32:12 (KJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] By the swords of the mighty will I cause thy multitude to fall, the terrible of the nations, all of them: and they shall spoil the pomp of Egypt, and all the multitude thereof shall be destroyed.


OBVIOUSLY, GOD uses the World's Armies to accomplish HIS WILL.

 

[VCO]

AND NOW, it begins. If you have not seen the world news watch it sometime TODAY, preferably on FOX NEWS:


United Nations envoy: Yemen set to erupt into civil war| Latest News Videos | Fox News

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sena,_Yemen

Wikipedia

Sena is located in Yemen. Sena. Location in Yemen ... Sena was a thriving Jewish city at the time part of the Babylonian empire around 500 BC.

Isaiah 13:17-20 (HCSB)
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Look! I am stirring up the Medes{Iran} against them, who cannot be bought off with silver and who have no desire for gold.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]⌊Their⌋ bows will cut young men to pieces. They will have no compassion on little ones; they will not look with pity on children.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]And Babylon {Iraq}, the jewel of the kingdoms, the glory of the pride of the Chaldeans, will be like Sodom and Gomorrah when God overthrew them.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]It will never be inhabited or lived in from generation to generation; a nomad will not pitch his tent there, and shepherds will not let ⌊their flocks⌋ rest there.

 

[dcontroversal]

I don't deny that nuclear war is possible. Man(kind) has acted in self destructive ways since Adam ate the forbidden fruit.

What we need to keep straight is the fact that what God says He will do, He does NOT need man's weapons to accomplish.

Wile I agree with this I will also say that God has consistently used the nations of the world and their war making efforts to judge the nations that were ripe for judgment.....

Assyria-->Northern Kingdom of Israel
Babylon--->Judah/Benjamin, Assyria
Israel-->Jebusites, Canaanites, Philistines
Medes and Persians--->Babylon

Etc......

 

[VCO]

Re: Silliness...

If you take the 666 mentioned in Revelation (there are also numerous other textual number variants, btw) to represent unrighteousness.....well, then you must take 144,000 to be the number of the Righteous...how then does this number fit in...?

I have news for you, the 144,000 are ALL JEWS sealed in their mortal bodies to repopulate ISRAEL, at the beginning of Christ's one thousand year reign from the THRONE OF DAVID.

Amazing how many do not want believe that when HE SAID IT IN EXTREMELY PLAIN LANGUAGE.

 

[MarcR]

Jeremiah 50:9 (HCSB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] For I will soon stir up and bring against Babylon an assembly of great nations from the north country. They will line up in battle formation against her; from there she will be captured. Their arrows will be like those of a skilled warrior who does not return empty-handed.

Isaiah 13:17-20 (HCSB)
17Look! I am stirring up the Medes {Iran} against them, who cannot be bought off with silver and who have no desire for gold.
18 ⌊Their⌋ bows will cut young men to pieces. They will have no compassion on little ones; they will not look with pity on children.
{I have shot several deer with a bow, and NEVER has my arrow done that; so this clearly is symbolism for modern day weapons.}
19 And Babylon {Iraq}, the jewel of the kingdoms {it is NOT talking about the city of Babylon, but rather the Kingdom of Babylon}, the glory of the pride of the Chaldeans, will be like Sodom and Gomorrah when God overthrew them.
20 It will never be inhabited or lived in from generation to generation; a nomad will not pitch his tent there, and shepherds will not let ⌊their flocks⌋ rest there.

Isaiah 19:2 (ASV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] And I will stir up the Egyptians against the Egyptians: and they shall fight every one against his brother, and every one against his neighbor; city against city, and kingdom against kingdom.

Amos 6:14 (NIV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] For the LORD God Almighty declares, "I will stir up a nation against you, O house of Israel, that will oppress you all the way from Lebo Hamath to the valley of the Arabah."

Zechariah 9:13 (ASV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] For I have bent Judah for me, I have filled the bow with Ephraim; and I will stir up thy sons, O Zion, against thy sons, O Greece, and will make thee as the sword of a mighty man.


Isaiah 37:6-7 (ASV)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] And Isaiah said unto them, Thus shall ye say to your master, Thus saith Jehovah, Be not afraid of the words that thou hast heard, wherewith the servants of the king of Assyria have blasphemed me.
[SUP]7 [/SUP] Behold, I will put a spirit in him, and he shall hear tidings, and shall return unto his own land; and I will cause him to fall by the sword in his own land.

Jeremiah 19:7 (ASV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] And I will make void the counsel of Judah and Jerusalem in this place; and I will cause them to fall by the sword before their enemies, and by the hand of them that seek their life: and their dead bodies will I give to be food for the birds of the heavens, and for the beasts of the earth.

Ezekiel 32:12 (KJV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] By the swords of the mighty will I cause thy multitude to fall, the terrible of the nations, all of them: and they shall spoil the pomp of Egypt, and all the multitude thereof shall be destroyed.


OBVIOUSLY, GOD uses the World's Armies to accomplish HIS WILL.

Certainly God uses men's armies to accomplish His will. My comment was only that He DOESN'T NEED THEM!

 

[VCO]

When I started this thread, a lot of people thought my opinion of where it is all heading in the Mid-East, was just plain silly.

SINCE THEN, Iran has backed the Rebels in Saudi Arabia, the US has stepped up the arms shipments to Saudi Arabia, and TODAY Obama and John Kerry promised a NUCLEAR UMBRELLA over the six Gulf States that are friendly to us. Which means If Iran fires one nuke at anybody in the mid east, it is all out Nuclear War. That will leave the Kingdom of Babylon, much of Syria, Southern Jordan, and probably a big chunk of Iran, a Nuclear wasteland; which the Bible describes will be "uninhabited from generation to generation".

John Kerry offers "nuclear umbrella" to Gulf States

In light of the forming deal with Iran, US Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Saudi Arabia in order to offer the Persian Gulf States a protection plan in case of an Iranian nuclear attack.

Israel News - John Kerry offers "nuclear umbrella" to Gulf States - JerusalemOnline

Now are the scoffers still scoffing?

 

[Bowman]

Re: Silliness...

I have news for you, the 144,000 are ALL JEWS sealed in their mortal bodies to repopulate ISRAEL, at the beginning of Christ's one thousand year reign from the THRONE OF DAVID.

Amazing how many do not want believe that when HE SAID IT IN EXTREMELY PLAIN LANGUAGE.

Nope.......

 

[VCO]

This one DEFINATELY bares REPEATING.
Our Troops for the most part DO PRAY!

DO NOT CONFUSE the Work of the Ministry, with work of Government and those who serve the Government as an Arm of government. THAT IS WHAT THE ARMED FORCES ARE.

The rams defend the sheep and the lambs, even in the physical world. THINK again about self defense, why else did Jesus tell his disciples to BUY a sword when traveling where thieves were know to ambush defenseless travelers. GOD gave men stronger physical abilities, and one of the reasons is the responsibility for the Husband is to protect the family, not to hide behind the couch and pray the intruder goes away. Why do you think he wrote:

Revelation 21:8 (HCSB)
8 But the cowards, unbelievers, vile, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars—their share will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”

NO, I DO NOT BELIEVE IN "CONSCIENTIOUS OBJECTOR STATUS" TO STAY OUT OF WAR. They can at least show enough courage to BE MEDICS on the front lines.

Romans 13:3-4 (NKJV)
3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same.
4 For he is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil.

Psalm 94:16 (ASV)
16 Who will rise up for me against the evil-doers? Who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?

Many stood with DAVID, how many today will stand, if this County ever gets a President with the intestinal fortitude to STOP ISIS.
The LOVE only Gospel is a false doctrine and a false gospel.

2 Timothy 3:16 (HCSB)
16 All Scripture is inspired by God and is profitable for teaching, for rebuking, for correcting, for training in righteousness,

You don't get to take the verses of scripture you like, and discard the rest.

Acts 20:27 (NKJV)
27 For I have not shunned to declare to you the whole counsel of God.

Shoot straight my brothers, and may GOD Protect you!

🕮 🕇

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Does the BIBLE describe a coming Nuclear War?

I believe is does, but we get glimpses of it from several places in Prophecy. When we look at the whole picture, all of a sudden, we begin to see a massive war that has not happened yet, and it's end result can only be explained as a full scale Nuclear War. This is a war that HAS TO HAPPEN prior to the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. My understanding of Biblical Prophecy is that while we are this side of the event, we can only make educated guesses at how it will all play out; HOWEVER, once the event has happed, it will absolutely fit the Prophecies perfectly. From the verses that I will show you, it is looking like this current War with ISIS, could lead to that unfulfilled War in Prophecy, that goes NUCLEAR.

The attack point of this War ultimately will aim at Israel, and Enemies still come from Syria, Iran, and Iraq, and Jordan gets caught in the middle, and thus they too suffer the devastation. If nukes are fired at Israel from any of those countries that I just mentioned, Israel with their Patriot missile batteries, will do their very best to knock them down before they cross their borders. That would cause many of them to fall in southern and western Jordan.

Isaiah 40:31 (HCSB)
[SUP]31 [/SUP] but those who trust in the LORD will renew their strength; they will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary; they will walk and not faint.

MECHANIZED INFANTRY

Isaiah 13:17-20 (HCSB)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Look! I am stirring up the Medes{Iran} against them, who cannot be bought off with silver and who have no desire for gold.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] ⌊Their⌋ bows will cut young men to pieces. They will have no compassion on little ones; they will not look with pity on children.
[SUP]19 [/SUP] And Babylon {Iraq}, the jewel of the kingdoms, the glory of the pride of the Chaldeans, will be like Sodom and Gomorrah when God overthrew them.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] It will never be inhabited or lived in from generation to generation; a nomad will not pitch his tent there, and shepherds will not let ⌊their flocks⌋ rest there.

Isaiah 34:6-10 (HCSB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] The LORD’s sword is covered with blood. It drips with fat, with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams. For the LORD has a sacrifice in Bozrah, a great slaughter in the land of Edom.
{Edom is Southern Jordan}
[SUP]7 [/SUP] The wild oxen will be struck down with them, and young bulls with the mighty bulls. Their land will be soaked with blood, and their soil will be saturated with fat.
[SUP]8 [/SUP] For the LORD has a day of vengeance, a time of paying back ⌊Edom⌋ for its hostility against Zion.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] ⌊Edom’s⌋ streams will be turned into pitch, her soil into sulfur; her land will become burning pitch.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] It will never go out—day or night. Its smoke will go up forever. It will be desolate, from generation to generation; no one will pass through it forever and ever.

Isaiah 17:1-3 (NKJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] The burden against Damascus. "Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city,And it will be a ruinous heap.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] The cities of Aroer are forsaken; They will be for flocks Which lie down, and no one will make them afraid.
{The area of Aroer would be the area northeast of Jerusalem in Jordan, where the main city would be Phildelphia (Amman), Jordan.}
[SUP]3 [/SUP] The fortress also will cease from Ephraim, The kingdom from Damascus, And the remnant of Syria; They will be as the glory of the children of Israel," Says the LORD of hosts.


Does ISRAEL remain unscathed in this possibly soon to be Nuclear War. NO, but out of the devastation comes the good news of Jews turning to Christ, and that leads to the Second Coming of our LORD.


Ezekiel 12:19-20 (HCSB)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Then say to the people of the land: This is what the Lord GOD says about the residents of Jerusalem in the land of Israel: They will eat their bread with anxiety and drink their water in dread, for their land will be stripped of everything in it because of the violence of all who live there.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] The inhabited cities will be destroyed, and the land will become a desolation. Then you will know that I am Yahweh.”

Zechariah 14:11 (HCSB)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] People will live there, and never again will there be a curse of complete destruction. So Jerusalem will dwell in security.

Zephaniah 3:11-17 (HCSB)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] On that day {The day of the Second Coming.} you will not be put to shame because of everything you have done in rebelling against Me. For then I will remove your proud, arrogant people from among you, and you will never again be haughty on My holy mountain.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] I will leave a meek and humble people among you, and they will take refuge in the name of Yahweh.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] The remnant of Israel will no longer do wrong or tell lies; a deceitful tongue will not be found in their mouths. But they will pasture and lie down, with nothing to make ⌊them⌋ afraid.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Sing for joy, Daughter Zion; shout loudly, Israel! Be glad and rejoice with all ⌊your⌋ heart, Daughter Jerusalem!
[SUP]15 [/SUP] The LORD has removed your punishment; He has turned back your enemy. The King of Israel, Yahweh, is among you; you need no longer fear harm.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] On that day it will be said to Jerusalem: “Do not fear; Zion, do not let your hands grow weak.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Yahweh your God is among you, a warrior who saves. He will rejoice over you with gladness. He will bring ⌊you⌋ quietness with His love. He will delight in you with shouts of joy.”


And some of you thought GOD was finished with ISRAEL. I did not get into Tribulation Events, because we have enough to focus on just seeing there is potentially a pre-Second Coming War that probably will go NUCLEAR, very quickly; but sandwiched in between the above War and the Second Coming will be the Seven Year Peace Treaty with Israel and her enemies. That Peace Treaty will be orchestrated by the Anti-Christ, and his seven year Reign will also be known as the Great Tribulation. But let's save all that for another thread dealing specifically with that issue.

So in conclusion, Do I believe the above War is describing Nuclear strikes? Yes I do.

Do I believe the Current War with ISIS is the beginning of that War? I think that is highly probable.

I’m not sure of scripture but common sense tells Me eventually man is going to use the destructive weapons they invented , man has proven ourselves destroyers and power hungry to the point of destroying each other until the end

can’t imagine mans Will for peace would outlast thier eventual greed for power and domination. And some pretty wicked people have advanced nukes while Israel’s enemies constantly strive for one

when Iran tests thier rockets and while they desperately seek nukes , one one side they paint” death to israel “and on the other “death to America “

it seems it’s only a matter of time but I’m not sure of scripture decrees it it seems more like mans will that will bring about such a catastrophe

 

[VCO]

I’m not sure of scripture but common sense tells Me eventually man is going to use the destructive weapons they invented , man has proven ourselves destroyers and power hungry to the point of destroying each other until the end

can’t imagine mans Will for peace would outlast thier eventual greed for power and domination. And some pretty wicked people have advanced nukes while Israel’s enemies constantly strive for one

when Iran tests thier rockets and while they desperately seek nukes , one one side they paint” death to israel “and on the other “death to America “

it seems it’s only a matter of time but I’m not sure of scripture decrees it it seems more like mans will that will bring about such a catastrophe

Do you know that we just went to DEFCON 3, and PUTIN called all of his Ambassadors and support personnel HOME, from UKRAINE, I Assume. We have not been to DEFCON 3 in decades. It means: DEFCON 3: Select forces are ready to deploy in 15 minutes. Which I assume it means the Bombers will be ready to take off in 15 minutes with Nukes on board.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Do you know that we just went to DEFCON 3, and PUTIN called all of his Ambassadors and support personnel HOME, from UKRAINE, I Assume. We have not been to DEFCON 3 in decades. It means: DEFCON 3: Select forces are ready to deploy in 15 minutes. Which I assume it means the Bombers will be ready to take off in 15 minutes with Nukes on board.

lol brother I’m always at defcon three levels

but seriously I don’t really follow the news much so I’m not aware of it. If nukes are coming we should all study the lords word a bit and believe would
Be my answer to defcon 3 so we can go home !!!

 

[LetGodBeTrue]

Does the BIBLE describe a coming Nuclear War?

I believe is does, but we get glimpses of it from several places in Prophecy. When we look at the whole picture, all of a sudden, we begin to see a massive war that has not happened yet, and it's end result can only be explained as a full scale Nuclear War. This is a war that HAS TO HAPPEN prior to the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. My understanding of Biblical Prophecy is that while we are this side of the event, we can only make educated guesses at how it will all play out; HOWEVER, once the event has happed, it will absolutely fit the Prophecies perfectly. From the verses that I will show you, it is looking like this current War with ISIS, could lead to that unfulfilled War in Prophecy, that goes NUCLEAR.

The attack point of this War ultimately will aim at Israel, and Enemies still come from Syria, Iran, and Iraq, and Jordan gets caught in the middle, and thus they too suffer the devastation. If nukes are fired at Israel from any of those countries that I just mentioned, Israel with their Patriot missile batteries, will do their very best to knock them down before they cross their borders. That would cause many of them to fall in southern and western Jordan.

Isaiah 40:31 (HCSB)
[SUP]31 [/SUP] but those who trust in the LORD will renew their strength; they will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary; they will walk and not faint.

MECHANIZED INFANTRY

Isaiah 13:17-20 (HCSB)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Look! I am stirring up the Medes{Iran} against them, who cannot be bought off with silver and who have no desire for gold.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] ⌊Their⌋ bows will cut young men to pieces. They will have no compassion on little ones; they will not look with pity on children.
[SUP]19 [/SUP] And Babylon {Iraq}, the jewel of the kingdoms, the glory of the pride of the Chaldeans, will be like Sodom and Gomorrah when God overthrew them.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] It will never be inhabited or lived in from generation to generation; a nomad will not pitch his tent there, and shepherds will not let ⌊their flocks⌋ rest there.

Isaiah 34:6-10 (HCSB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] The LORD’s sword is covered with blood. It drips with fat, with the blood of lambs and goats, with the fat of the kidneys of rams. For the LORD has a sacrifice in Bozrah, a great slaughter in the land of Edom.
{Edom is Southern Jordan}
[SUP]7 [/SUP] The wild oxen will be struck down with them, and young bulls with the mighty bulls. Their land will be soaked with blood, and their soil will be saturated with fat.
[SUP]8 [/SUP] For the LORD has a day of vengeance, a time of paying back ⌊Edom⌋ for its hostility against Zion.
[SUP]9 [/SUP] ⌊Edom’s⌋ streams will be turned into pitch, her soil into sulfur; her land will become burning pitch.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] It will never go out—day or night. Its smoke will go up forever. It will be desolate, from generation to generation; no one will pass through it forever and ever.

Isaiah 17:1-3 (NKJV)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] The burden against Damascus. "Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city,And it will be a ruinous heap.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] The cities of Aroer are forsaken; They will be for flocks Which lie down, and no one will make them afraid.
{The area of Aroer would be the area northeast of Jerusalem in Jordan, where the main city would be Phildelphia (Amman), Jordan.}
[SUP]3 [/SUP] The fortress also will cease from Ephraim, The kingdom from Damascus, And the remnant of Syria; They will be as the glory of the children of Israel," Says the LORD of hosts.


Does ISRAEL remain unscathed in this possibly soon to be Nuclear War. NO, but out of the devastation comes the good news of Jews turning to Christ, and that leads to the Second Coming of our LORD.


Ezekiel 12:19-20 (HCSB)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Then say to the people of the land: This is what the Lord GOD says about the residents of Jerusalem in the land of Israel: They will eat their bread with anxiety and drink their water in dread, for their land will be stripped of everything in it because of the violence of all who live there.
[SUP]20 [/SUP] The inhabited cities will be destroyed, and the land will become a desolation. Then you will know that I am Yahweh.”

Zechariah 14:11 (HCSB)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] People will live there, and never again will there be a curse of complete destruction. So Jerusalem will dwell in security.

Zephaniah 3:11-17 (HCSB)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] On that day {The day of the Second Coming.} you will not be put to shame because of everything you have done in rebelling against Me. For then I will remove your proud, arrogant people from among you, and you will never again be haughty on My holy mountain.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] I will leave a meek and humble people among you, and they will take refuge in the name of Yahweh.
[SUP]13 [/SUP] The remnant of Israel will no longer do wrong or tell lies; a deceitful tongue will not be found in their mouths. But they will pasture and lie down, with nothing to make ⌊them⌋ afraid.
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Sing for joy, Daughter Zion; shout loudly, Israel! Be glad and rejoice with all ⌊your⌋ heart, Daughter Jerusalem!
[SUP]15 [/SUP] The LORD has removed your punishment; He has turned back your enemy. The King of Israel, Yahweh, is among you; you need no longer fear harm.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] On that day it will be said to Jerusalem: “Do not fear; Zion, do not let your hands grow weak.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Yahweh your God is among you, a warrior who saves. He will rejoice over you with gladness. He will bring ⌊you⌋ quietness with His love. He will delight in you with shouts of joy.”


And some of you thought GOD was finished with ISRAEL. I did not get into Tribulation Events, because we have enough to focus on just seeing there is potentially a pre-Second Coming War that probably will go NUCLEAR, very quickly; but sandwiched in between the above War and the Second Coming will be the Seven Year Peace Treaty with Israel and her enemies. That Peace Treaty will be orchestrated by the Anti-Christ, and his seven year Reign will also be known as the Great Tribulation. But let's save all that for another thread dealing specifically with that issue.

So in conclusion, Do I believe the above War is describing Nuclear strikes? Yes I do.

Do I believe the Current War with ISIS is the beginning of that War? I think that is highly probable.

None of those verses has anything to do with modern-day Israel. They concern those very nations of THAT OT day.

 

[VCO]

None of those verses has anything to do with modern-day Israel. They concern those very nations of THAT OT day.

A great deal has to do with Modern ISRAEL. None of it has to do with the Church becoming spiritual Israelites.

Isaiah 40:2 (YLT)
2 Speak to the heart of Jerusalem, and call to her, That her warfare hath been completed, That accepted hath been her punishment, That she hath received from the hand of Jehovah Double for all her sins.

Sense Israel's warfare has NOT BEEN COMPLETED, it is still FUTURE PROPHESSY.

Isaiah 40:31 (GW)
31 Yet, the strength of those who wait with hope in the LORD will be renewed. They will soar on wings like eagles. They will run and won't become weary. They will walk and won't grow tired.




The other part of that verse is OBVIOUSLY Armored Personnel Carriers and Tanks.

 

[VCO]

Re: Silliness...




Nope.......

Then You do not believe the BIBLE LITERALLY, when I DO.

Revelation 7:4-8 (HCSB)
4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed:
144,000 sealed from every tribe of the Israelites:

5 12,000 sealed from the tribe of Judah,
12,000 from the tribe of Reuben,
12,000 from the tribe of Gad,
6 12,000 from the tribe of Asher,
12,000 from the tribe of Naphtali,
12,000 from the tribe of Manasseh,
7 12,000 from the tribe of Simeon,
12,000 from the tribe of Levi,
12,000 from the tribe of Issachar,
8 12,000 from the tribe of Zebulun,
12,000 from the tribe of Joseph,
12,000 sealed from the tribe of Benjamin.