Who Justifieth the Ungodly
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nope ... I mean the faith that breaks the bondage of sin:
Romans 6:
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Romans 6:
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
the purpose of the law was to bring mankind to Messiah ... the Lord Jesus Christ ...
Galatians 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
It is faith in the Lord Jesus Christ which justifies a man or woman in the sight of God ... the keeping of the law does not justify because that was never the purpose of the law. Mankind has always been justified by faith ... not through the keeping of law.
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Romans 6:
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Romans 6:
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
the purpose of the law was to bring mankind to Messiah ... the Lord Jesus Christ ...
Galatians 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
It is faith in the Lord Jesus Christ which justifies a man or woman in the sight of God ... the keeping of the law does not justify because that was never the purpose of the law. Mankind has always been justified by faith ... not through the keeping of law.
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That is true, maybe you just can't receive the things of the Spirit, remember you are the one defending carnal blood to take away sin, Im defending true faith with works of repentance and ammendment.
The faith that ceases from sin is faith with works. No matter how you put it, unless you repent you shall all likewise perish. He can't justify sinners, that is why we must repent first. Even Paul says you can't serve sin no more after baptism.
You can't separate the works from faith, and still be justified, because by dead faith shall no flesh be justified. If you believe you keep the law, that is the only thing that seperates us from the faith of devils, because the devils also believe and they are not justified. You have to be better than the devils and keep the law.
Also, try reading something other than Paul, but if you really like him, he said:
How can we who are dead to sin continue to live any longer therein?
1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
The faith that ceases from sin is faith with works. No matter how you put it, unless you repent you shall all likewise perish. He can't justify sinners, that is why we must repent first. Even Paul says you can't serve sin no more after baptism.
You can't separate the works from faith, and still be justified, because by dead faith shall no flesh be justified. If you believe you keep the law, that is the only thing that seperates us from the faith of devils, because the devils also believe and they are not justified. You have to be better than the devils and keep the law.
Also, try reading something other than Paul, but if you really like him, he said:
How can we who are dead to sin continue to live any longer therein?
1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
You can't teach against the Word:
Exodus 23:7 Keep thee far from a false matter; and the innocent and righteous slay thou not: for I will not justify the wicked.
Proverbs 17:15 He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord.
Exodus 23:8 And thou shalt take no gift: for the gift blindeth the wise, and perverteth the words of the righteous.
Proverbs 15:27 He that is greedy of gain troubleth his own house; but he that hateth gifts shall live.
Proverbs 17:23 A wicked man taketh a gift out of the bosom to pervert the ways of judgment.
Isaiah 1:23 Thy princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves: every one loveth gifts, and followeth after rewards: they judge not the fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them.
Isaiah 5:22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:
23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!
Exodus 23:7 Keep thee far from a false matter; and the innocent and righteous slay thou not: for I will not justify the wicked.
Proverbs 17:15 He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord.
Exodus 23:8 And thou shalt take no gift: for the gift blindeth the wise, and perverteth the words of the righteous.
Proverbs 15:27 He that is greedy of gain troubleth his own house; but he that hateth gifts shall live.
Proverbs 17:23 A wicked man taketh a gift out of the bosom to pervert the ways of judgment.
Isaiah 1:23 Thy princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves: every one loveth gifts, and followeth after rewards: they judge not the fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them.
Isaiah 5:22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:
23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!
I did a site search for "Grace" after reading some the the admonitions on hyper grace in the front page. I also read some of the comments about being "justified by grace" in the first posts in this thread. I want to post this information because I think that when considered, it ends this conflict between hyper-grace and non-hyper grace (whatever that might be).
All Men have seen God's grace - Tit 2:11 ¶ For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men
Everyone sees that God's grace enables a person to deny ungodliness -Tit 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Seeing the effects of Grace can be very different from experiencing the effects of Grace. God only gives Grace, or teaches someone how to deny ungodliness, if they humble themselves.
Jas 4:6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
1Pe 5:5 ¶ Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble.
So even if unbelievers see the effects of Grace upon a Christian who has humbled themselves before God they will not personally receive God's grace and be empowered to deny ungodly activity until they also humble themselves before God.
A Christian grows in grace as they progress from humbling themselves through obedience, in each individual area of their lives.
2Pe 3:18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
Joh 1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
All Men have seen God's grace - Tit 2:11 ¶ For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men
Everyone sees that God's grace enables a person to deny ungodliness -Tit 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Seeing the effects of Grace can be very different from experiencing the effects of Grace. God only gives Grace, or teaches someone how to deny ungodliness, if they humble themselves.
Jas 4:6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
1Pe 5:5 ¶ Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble.
So even if unbelievers see the effects of Grace upon a Christian who has humbled themselves before God they will not personally receive God's grace and be empowered to deny ungodly activity until they also humble themselves before God.
A Christian grows in grace as they progress from humbling themselves through obedience, in each individual area of their lives.
2Pe 3:18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
Joh 1:16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
Why Justifcation by Faith ?
Those who are Justified before Faith before God, based upon The Divine Purpose which includes the blood of Christ in covenant, slain from the foundation Rev 13:8, foreknown before the world began 1 Pet 1:20, based on the blood of the everlasting covenant Heb 13:20. They all shall be Justified by Faith in time at their call by the Gospel Rom 8:28-30
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
Its at this Call they do receive a sense and knowledge of it [Justification], they now know themselves Justified in their consciousness to be Justified before God through Spirit wrought Faith 1 Cor 6:11
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
For Faith is a fruit of the Spirit Gal 5:22, and men do not have it [Justifying Faith] by Nature; and men by nature [even the elect] have no way of knowing of such a spiritual blessing as Justification before God until they capacitated by the fruit of Faith from the Spirit, and only to those is the Gospel sent to reveal this Justification / Righteousness to Rom 1:16-17
16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
This Righteousness revealed to Faith is the basis of their Justification before God.
So its only proper in the arrangement of Salvation in the Dine Purpose, that those Justified before Faith, are Justified by Faith or through Faith knowingly and consciously. For what comfort or peace can come from it [Justification before God] if its never made known to the one who is. For Justification by Faith is the beginning of the assurance of Faith Heb 10:22
22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
Without Justification by Faith there would be no Joy and Peace in Believing Rom 15:13
Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost. 7
Those who are Justified before Faith before God, based upon The Divine Purpose which includes the blood of Christ in covenant, slain from the foundation Rev 13:8, foreknown before the world began 1 Pet 1:20, based on the blood of the everlasting covenant Heb 13:20. They all shall be Justified by Faith in time at their call by the Gospel Rom 8:28-30
28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
Its at this Call they do receive a sense and knowledge of it [Justification], they now know themselves Justified in their consciousness to be Justified before God through Spirit wrought Faith 1 Cor 6:11
11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.
For Faith is a fruit of the Spirit Gal 5:22, and men do not have it [Justifying Faith] by Nature; and men by nature [even the elect] have no way of knowing of such a spiritual blessing as Justification before God until they capacitated by the fruit of Faith from the Spirit, and only to those is the Gospel sent to reveal this Justification / Righteousness to Rom 1:16-17
16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
This Righteousness revealed to Faith is the basis of their Justification before God.
So its only proper in the arrangement of Salvation in the Dine Purpose, that those Justified before Faith, are Justified by Faith or through Faith knowingly and consciously. For what comfort or peace can come from it [Justification before God] if its never made known to the one who is. For Justification by Faith is the beginning of the assurance of Faith Heb 10:22
22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
Without Justification by Faith there would be no Joy and Peace in Believing Rom 15:13
Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost. 7
False premise … in 45+ pages, you have not proven your conjecture is “Truth” and you continue to deny the Truth of Scripture.
… more nonsense.
Here’s a verse you need to learn and keep in mind:
2 Corinthians 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ
… wind of doctrine … God warns us about those. He gave us His Word so we wouldn’t be blown about and deceived:
Ephesians 4:14 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive
If you would just read God's Word and believe what is plainly written in Scripture, you wouldn't have to make up all these silly scenarios where you try to make God's Word somehow fit your erroneous dogma.
READ YOUR BIBLE!!!
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… more nonsense.Here’s a verse you need to learn and keep in mind:
2 Corinthians 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ
… wind of doctrine … God warns us about those. He gave us His Word so we wouldn’t be blown about and deceived:
Ephesians 4:14 14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive
If you would just read God's Word and believe what is plainly written in Scripture, you wouldn't have to make up all these silly scenarios where you try to make God's Word somehow fit your erroneous dogma.
READ YOUR BIBLE!!!
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You are the one who believes you are justified by keeping the law.
I have told you, the purpose of the law was never to justify mankind. The purpose of the law was to bring mankind to Messiah ... the Lord Jesus Christ:
Galatians 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
The devil and his angels know God is God ... the devil and his angels also know that their eternal habitation is the lake of fire. The goal of the devil and his angels is to take mankind with him. Sadly, some will go with the devil and his angels ... even though they think they are following God's Will:
Matthew 7:
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
"he that doth the will of my Father which is in heaven" is the one who believes in Him Whom the Father sent (the Lord Jesus Christ).
Matthew 7:
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
You seem to think your "many wonderful works" (keeping the law) is going to save you.
... good luck with that erroneous dogma, DanielLL.
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I have told you, the purpose of the law was never to justify mankind. The purpose of the law was to bring mankind to Messiah ... the Lord Jesus Christ:
Galatians 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
James 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
The devil and his angels know God is God ... the devil and his angels also know that their eternal habitation is the lake of fire. The goal of the devil and his angels is to take mankind with him. Sadly, some will go with the devil and his angels ... even though they think they are following God's Will:
Matthew 7:
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
"he that doth the will of my Father which is in heaven" is the one who believes in Him Whom the Father sent (the Lord Jesus Christ).
Matthew 7:
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
You seem to think your "many wonderful works" (keeping the law) is going to save you.
... good luck with that erroneous dogma, DanielLL..
false premise ... none are justified before faith:
Romans 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it [Abraham's faith] was counted unto him for righteousness.
Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ
The very first example in Scripture concerning the approach of mankind to God clarifies that mankind is to come through faith:
Hebrews 11:4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which [Abel's faith] he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.
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Romans 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it [Abraham's faith] was counted unto him for righteousness.
Romans 5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ
The very first example in Scripture concerning the approach of mankind to God clarifies that mankind is to come through faith:
Hebrews 11:4 By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which [Abel's faith] he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.
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In numerous posts in this thread, you claim "all for whom Christ died are justified before God"
I have provided verses from Scripture which clearly state the Lord Jesus Christ died for the sins of the whole world.
You then manipulate/change God’s Word from what God has stated (that the Lord Jesus Christ died for the sins of the whole world) by claiming that "the whole world" means only some subset ... what you claim as the "elect" and/or that God withholds what is needed to come to Him from some (those you claim are not "elect").
Quit manipulating Scripture to support your erroneous dogma.
Instead, cast out your empty reasonings and bring every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. Let go of that which is not in alignment with Scripture.
2 Corinthians 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ
READ YOUR BIBLE!!!
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I have provided verses from Scripture which clearly state the Lord Jesus Christ died for the sins of the whole world.
You then manipulate/change God’s Word from what God has stated (that the Lord Jesus Christ died for the sins of the whole world) by claiming that "the whole world" means only some subset ... what you claim as the "elect" and/or that God withholds what is needed to come to Him from some (those you claim are not "elect").
Quit manipulating Scripture to support your erroneous dogma.
Instead, cast out your empty reasonings and bring every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. Let go of that which is not in alignment with Scripture.
2 Corinthians 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ
READ YOUR BIBLE!!!
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Your scenario about the king who acquits "a prisoner" fails on several levels.
One failure is due to what we read in 1 John 2:2:
1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
you keep claiming "all for whom Christ died are justified", yet even in your scenario the king only releases "a prisoner".
Another failure … you claim the acquittal was given on Tuesday and the prisoner received the news on Friday. The prisoner is still imprisoned from Tuesday to Friday, even though you claim the prisoner was freed on Tuesday.
Clearly, even under your scenario, the prisoner is in bondage until Friday.
Another failure … you hold your erroneous dogma in place of Scripture. Newsflash, your erroneous dogma is not Scripture.
Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive
READ YOUR BIBLE!!!
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One failure is due to what we read in 1 John 2:2:
1 John 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
you keep claiming "all for whom Christ died are justified", yet even in your scenario the king only releases "a prisoner".
Another failure … you claim the acquittal was given on Tuesday and the prisoner received the news on Friday. The prisoner is still imprisoned from Tuesday to Friday, even though you claim the prisoner was freed on Tuesday.
Clearly, even under your scenario, the prisoner is in bondage until Friday.
Another failure … you hold your erroneous dogma in place of Scripture. Newsflash, your erroneous dogma is not Scripture.
Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive
READ YOUR BIBLE!!!
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"wonderful works" is miracles.
Keeping the law is not "wonderful works", it is the love of God:
1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Keeping the law is not "wonderful works", it is the love of God:
1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
doesn't matter what "works" you're going to rely on ...
Romans 3:
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe
Mankind is not justified through keeping the law.
You seem to think your keeping the law is going to save you.
Read the verse just before John 14:21:
John 14:
20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Do you know the Lord Jesus Christ???
The only way a person is in the Lord Jesus Christ is for that person to be born again. Are you born again? Is the Lord Jesus Christ in you?
More importantly, is the Lord Jesus Christ going to say to you depart from me, ye that work iniquity ???
Matthew 7:
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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Romans 3:
20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe
Mankind is not justified through keeping the law.
You seem to think your keeping the law is going to save you.
Read the verse just before John 14:21:
John 14:
20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Do you know the Lord Jesus Christ???
The only way a person is in the Lord Jesus Christ is for that person to be born again. Are you born again? Is the Lord Jesus Christ in you?
More importantly, is the Lord Jesus Christ going to say to you depart from me, ye that work iniquity ???
Matthew 7:
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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Being justified means - being "made just" or equitable, Strongs #1344.
Those who are justified are made just/equitable because God's grace teaches them to deny ungodliness - Titus 2:11 and 12.
Tit 2:11 ¶ For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Tit 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Being "righteous" does not mean that thereafter every action the person ever does is "right", it means that they did the right thing at that particular moment.
1Jo 3:7 (RSV) Little children, let no one deceive you. He who does "right" is righteous, as he is righteous.
Abraham had faith before scripture made the statement about Him in Genesis 15:6.
Abraham had faith and God considered that the "right" way to relate to Him.
Ge 15:6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.
The word "imputed" in the KJV is more clearly translated using the word "Reckoned" and the NKJV does recognize this as it translates James 2:23. Below both Bible translations of James 2:23 are pasted to illustrate this point.
KJV Jas 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed (Strong's #3049)
unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
NKJV (New King James version) Jas 2:23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, "Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness." And he was called the friend of God. (NKJV)
KJV translation - Ga 3:6 ¶ Even as <kathos> Abraham <Abraam> believed <pisteuo> God <theos>, and <kai> it was
accounted <logizomai>
to him <autos> for <eis> righteousness <dikaiosune>. {accounted: or, imputed }
Strong's concordance number 3049. logizomai logizomai, log-id'-zom-ahee
Search for 3049 in KJV
middle voice from 3056; to take an inventory, i.e. estimate (literally or figuratively):--conclude, (ac-)count (of), + despise, esteem, impute, lay, number, reason, reckon, suppose, think (on).
New KJV translation - Ro 4:9 ¶ Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.
Ro 4:12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.
Ro 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
Ro 4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
Ga 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
Ga 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
It will take a while to adjust a persons thinking and view the concept of "Imputed righteousness" as God approving of the Faith Abraham had at the time and considering that the "right " thing to do.
Abraham was not at that moment given faith as the "word" imputed sometimes can imply. He was also not at that time stamped with the term "righteous" in every action He would ever perform.
He was only said to have done the "right thing at that particular moment. God recognized that He had faith and deemed that the correct or "right " way to do things.
It will also take a while to understand that the word "Justified" means "being "made just" as is used in the term "Justified by Grace".
Grace "justifies" a person because God's Grace teaches a person to "deny ungodly activity" and to be righteous or do the "right " thing.
To get into "works " a bit here. Some verses contrasting "works" with "Grace" are pasted below -
Ro 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
Ga 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. (KJV)
Ro 4:4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. (KJV)
Ro 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. (KJV)
The verses referring to "works" do not mean we can't or even shouldn't do any works,
(Here refer to Phil 2:12 and the concept of - "working out your salvation").
The verses contrasting "works" with "Grace" mean that we/mankind are not capable of doing any work that will teach us to deny ungodliness, as the grace of God can teach us (Titus 2:11-12).
Ro 3:24 Being justified <dikaioo> freely <dorean> by his <autos> grace <charis> through <dia> the redemption <apolutrosis> that is in <en> Christ <Christos> Jesus <Iesous>:
Ga 5:4 Christ <Christos> is become of no effect unto you <apo> <katargeo>, whosoever of you <hostis> are justified <dikaioo> by <en> the law <nomos>; ye are fallen from <ekpipto> grace <charis>.
Tit 3:7 That <hina> being justified by <dikaioo> his <ekeinos> grace <charis>, we should be made <ginomai> heirs <kleronomos> according to <kata> the hope <elpis> of eternal <aionios> life <zoe>.
(KJV)
1344. dikaiow dikaioo, dik-ah-yo'-o
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from 1342; to render (i.e. show or regard as) just or innocent:--free, justify(-ier), be righteous.
Those who are justified are made just/equitable because God's grace teaches them to deny ungodliness - Titus 2:11 and 12.
Tit 2:11 ¶ For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,
Tit 2:12 Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world;
Being "righteous" does not mean that thereafter every action the person ever does is "right", it means that they did the right thing at that particular moment.
1Jo 3:7 (RSV) Little children, let no one deceive you. He who does "right" is righteous, as he is righteous.
Abraham had faith before scripture made the statement about Him in Genesis 15:6.
Abraham had faith and God considered that the "right" way to relate to Him.
Ge 15:6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.
The word "imputed" in the KJV is more clearly translated using the word "Reckoned" and the NKJV does recognize this as it translates James 2:23. Below both Bible translations of James 2:23 are pasted to illustrate this point.
KJV Jas 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed (Strong's #3049)
unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
NKJV (New King James version) Jas 2:23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, "Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness." And he was called the friend of God. (NKJV)
KJV translation - Ga 3:6 ¶ Even as <kathos> Abraham <Abraam> believed <pisteuo> God <theos>, and <kai> it was
accounted <logizomai>
to him <autos> for <eis> righteousness <dikaiosune>. {accounted: or, imputed }
Strong's concordance number 3049. logizomai logizomai, log-id'-zom-ahee
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middle voice from 3056; to take an inventory, i.e. estimate (literally or figuratively):--conclude, (ac-)count (of), + despise, esteem, impute, lay, number, reason, reckon, suppose, think (on).
New KJV translation - Ro 4:9 ¶ Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.
Ro 4:12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.
Ro 4:13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
Ro 4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
Ga 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
Ga 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
It will take a while to adjust a persons thinking and view the concept of "Imputed righteousness" as God approving of the Faith Abraham had at the time and considering that the "right " thing to do.
Abraham was not at that moment given faith as the "word" imputed sometimes can imply. He was also not at that time stamped with the term "righteous" in every action He would ever perform.
He was only said to have done the "right thing at that particular moment. God recognized that He had faith and deemed that the correct or "right " way to do things.
It will also take a while to understand that the word "Justified" means "being "made just" as is used in the term "Justified by Grace".
Grace "justifies" a person because God's Grace teaches a person to "deny ungodly activity" and to be righteous or do the "right " thing.
To get into "works " a bit here. Some verses contrasting "works" with "Grace" are pasted below -
Ro 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
Ga 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace. (KJV)
Ro 4:4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. (KJV)
Ro 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. (KJV)
The verses referring to "works" do not mean we can't or even shouldn't do any works,
(Here refer to Phil 2:12 and the concept of - "working out your salvation").
The verses contrasting "works" with "Grace" mean that we/mankind are not capable of doing any work that will teach us to deny ungodliness, as the grace of God can teach us (Titus 2:11-12).
Ro 3:24 Being justified <dikaioo> freely <dorean> by his <autos> grace <charis> through <dia> the redemption <apolutrosis> that is in <en> Christ <Christos> Jesus <Iesous>:
Ga 5:4 Christ <Christos> is become of no effect unto you <apo> <katargeo>, whosoever of you <hostis> are justified <dikaioo> by <en> the law <nomos>; ye are fallen from <ekpipto> grace <charis>.
Tit 3:7 That <hina> being justified by <dikaioo> his <ekeinos> grace <charis>, we should be made <ginomai> heirs <kleronomos> according to <kata> the hope <elpis> of eternal <aionios> life <zoe>.
(KJV)
1344. dikaiow dikaioo, dik-ah-yo'-o
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from 1342; to render (i.e. show or regard as) just or innocent:--free, justify(-ier), be righteous.