Alcohol - a world wide phenomena
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probably every single one of us have stories like this, and if we don't, we either haven't lived long enough or paid enough attention.
but you can't blame that on the alcohol.
things like drugs and alcohol do not cause a person's heart to sin - they only remove inhibition to sin, and cloud judgement.
alcohol is not root cause. it is a contributing factor to things in people's hearts being openly expressed that they may have otherwise only expressed internally, but the root cause is in the heart. have a good look again at Matthew 5.
certainly it is worse to commit murder than it is only harbor hatred in your heart, but it is still sin even if it is not physically manifest in the deed.
but you can't blame that on the alcohol.
things like drugs and alcohol do not cause a person's heart to sin - they only remove inhibition to sin, and cloud judgement.
alcohol is not root cause. it is a contributing factor to things in people's hearts being openly expressed that they may have otherwise only expressed internally, but the root cause is in the heart. have a good look again at Matthew 5.
certainly it is worse to commit murder than it is only harbor hatred in your heart, but it is still sin even if it is not physically manifest in the deed.
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why would anyone say vines full of fresh grapes at the time of harvest should be destroyed?
and in the context of the whole chapter, in the opening stanza God says He is found by those who did not seek Him - a reference to the bringing in of the Gentiles. then we have much written about the sin & idolatry of Israel, which is 'bad fruit' - i.e. He has gone out to harvest from them, and found only things that have rotted on the vine, or produced nothing.
then the chapter closes by speaking of the new creation
so contextually, we are overall talking about after Israel has been examined and found without good fruit. i.e. after harvest time.
and we are talking about a vinedresser having in mind to destroy or at least cut back the vine - not something done while it is full of fresh grapes.
and we are talking about a certain situation, not an everyday occurrence, when the state of a cluster of grapes makes one consider throwing them away. when does that situation occur? certainly not when they are fresh and full.
when they have begun to ferment on the vine.
it is that 'new wine' being found in the grapes that one man says 'destroy it!' but another says 'no, it is a blessing'
this makes zero sense if we're talking about fresh ripe grapes.
it makes perfect sense if we're talking about grapes which are beginning to naturally ferment into alcoholic wine.
As the new wine is found in the cluster,
and one says, ‘Do not destroy it,
for a blessing is in it,’
so will I do for My servants’ sake,
that I may not destroy them all.
(Isaiah 65:8)
someone says, 'do not destroy it'why would anyone say vines full of fresh grapes at the time of harvest should be destroyed?
and in the context of the whole chapter, in the opening stanza God says He is found by those who did not seek Him - a reference to the bringing in of the Gentiles. then we have much written about the sin & idolatry of Israel, which is 'bad fruit' - i.e. He has gone out to harvest from them, and found only things that have rotted on the vine, or produced nothing.
then the chapter closes by speaking of the new creation
so contextually, we are overall talking about after Israel has been examined and found without good fruit. i.e. after harvest time.
and we are talking about a vinedresser having in mind to destroy or at least cut back the vine - not something done while it is full of fresh grapes.
and we are talking about a certain situation, not an everyday occurrence, when the state of a cluster of grapes makes one consider throwing them away. when does that situation occur? certainly not when they are fresh and full.
when they have begun to ferment on the vine.
it is that 'new wine' being found in the grapes that one man says 'destroy it!' but another says 'no, it is a blessing'
this makes zero sense if we're talking about fresh ripe grapes.
it makes perfect sense if we're talking about grapes which are beginning to naturally ferment into alcoholic wine.
it's true that little is a relative term
for the folks who are under the untenable impression that Biblical wine has zero or nearly zero alcohol content, i suppose the recommendation is to be read as a great number of liters -- tho i am thinking that would result in bladder pain?
perhaps Paul's advice is just to give young Timothy a different problem, so he forgets the first
for the folks who are under the untenable impression that Biblical wine has zero or nearly zero alcohol content, i suppose the recommendation is to be read as a great number of liters -- tho i am thinking that would result in bladder pain?
perhaps Paul's advice is just to give young Timothy a different problem, so he forgets the first
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"Now then," said the Lord, "you Pharisees clean the outside of the
cup and dish, but inside you are full of greed and wickedness."
Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the
cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. Blind Pharisee!
First clean the inside of the cup and dish, so that the outside may become clean as well.
Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs,
which look beautiful on the outside, but on the inside are full of dead men’s bones
and every kind of impurity. In the same way, on the outside you appear to be righteous,
but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
cup and dish, but inside you are full of greed and wickedness."
Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the
cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. Blind Pharisee!
First clean the inside of the cup and dish, so that the outside may become clean as well.
Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs,
which look beautiful on the outside, but on the inside are full of dead men’s bones
and every kind of impurity. In the same way, on the outside you appear to be righteous,
but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
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That was one of my favorite things said by Paul in Philippians 3;
13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
I don’t think it means to literally forget, but to place those memories in their proper place, for them not to have have undue influence, but only serve to mark our progress.
13 Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
I don’t think it means to literally forget, but to place those memories in their proper place, for them not to have have undue influence, but only serve to mark our progress.
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every definition i can find says a 'winebibber' is specifically someone who habitually drinks a lot of wine, akin to 'lush' or 'toper' or 'sot' -- while it may technically mean 'one who drinks wine' there is a very clear insinuation attached.
it's not referring to anyone who simply drinks any amount of alcohol, ever.
it would not be correct to call you a glutton because you ate a small meal, just like it would be inaccurate to say someone who had 2 glasses of champagne at a wedding two years ago qualifies as a functional alcoholic.
when they called Jesus a winebibber, the implication was 'He's always drunk!'
not 'we saw him sip a glass of wine one time!'
it's not referring to anyone who simply drinks any amount of alcohol, ever.
it would not be correct to call you a glutton because you ate a small meal, just like it would be inaccurate to say someone who had 2 glasses of champagne at a wedding two years ago qualifies as a functional alcoholic.
when they called Jesus a winebibber, the implication was 'He's always drunk!'
not 'we saw him sip a glass of wine one time!'
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