Alcohol - a world wide phenomena
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You will say anything or quote anything that you think will support your position that Jesus did not turn water into wine but turned it into grape juice.
Why in the world would someone accuse someone of being drunk on new wine while knowing that the wine was only grape juice. No one serves grape juice at weddings either.
Wine is made from grape juice. Grape juice is not wine.
Words have meaning in the bible but you are making them meaningless. It will be a waste of my time to reply anymore to you. We are through here.
Why in the world would someone accuse someone of being drunk on new wine while knowing that the wine was only grape juice. No one serves grape juice at weddings either.
Wine is made from grape juice. Grape juice is not wine.
Words have meaning in the bible but you are making them meaningless. It will be a waste of my time to reply anymore to you. We are through here.
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These people may have been evil but they were not stupid. They thought that the disciples were drunk on new wine. If they thought that they were drinking grape juice they would not have accused the disciples of being drunk and winebibbers along with Jesus.
Exactly, it would not be logical to accuse someone of being drunk if they thought that new wine was non-alcoholic.
Of course, Jesus made actual wine with an alcoholic content for the wedding guests at Cana. There may have been hundreds of guests and the celebration may have took days hence the 6 jars holding many gallons.
You're not stupid either but you are grasping at straws and wresting scripture to support your narrative. By doing so you are damaging your credibility is regards to knowing spiritual truth.
Exactly, it would not be logical to accuse someone of being drunk if they thought that new wine was non-alcoholic.
Of course, Jesus made actual wine with an alcoholic content for the wedding guests at Cana. There may have been hundreds of guests and the celebration may have took days hence the 6 jars holding many gallons.
You're not stupid either but you are grasping at straws and wresting scripture to support your narrative. By doing so you are damaging your credibility is regards to knowing spiritual truth.
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Yeah, the Pharisees in rejecting the miracles (Pentecost, Resurrection, Healings, Casting out devils, etc) were perfectly logical:
Mat 9:34: "But the Pharisees said, He casteth out devils through the prince of the devils."
Mat 12:24: "But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils."
Mar 3:22: "And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils."
Your logic and reasoning, like theirs, is spot on irrefutable (because it refuses to admit error).
Mat 9:34: "But the Pharisees said, He casteth out devils through the prince of the devils."
Mat 12:24: "But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils."
Mar 3:22: "And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils."
Your logic and reasoning, like theirs, is spot on irrefutable (because it refuses to admit error).
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I shall shed a tear in my beer for thee, then. 
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Yes, his very own verse...
Poor guy.
Poor guy.
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Where did I say that?
I said:
Acts 2:4: "And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance."
Job 12:4: "I am as one mocked of his neighbour, who calleth upon God, and he answereth him: the just upright man is laughed to scorn."
I said:
Acts 2:4: "And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance."
Yes indeed. You are the joke, but I love you anyway.
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I find that a certain degree of self-righteousness seems to be displayed by those who feel God has chosen them for a special purpose.
Paul went from calling himself an Apostle, the least of the Apostles, to the chiefest among sinners. In other words, the more he learned and was used by God, the more humble he became.
Paul went from calling himself an Apostle, the least of the Apostles, to the chiefest among sinners. In other words, the more he learned and was used by God, the more humble he became.
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A useful resource - https://ssnet.org/blog/why-did-jesus-create-wine/