Did Judas go to prison?

[Runningman]

Praying with the apostles, Peter in Acts 1 said that Judas went to "his own place."

Acts 1:25 KJV
25That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.

Of course this is talking about where Judas went in the afterlife. To me this is saying that Judas went to a place that is for him especially and not particularly meant for anyone else, somewhere like a prison cell for example. That is not without precedent as Jesus mentioned this elsewhere.

Matthew 5:25-26 KJV
25Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. 26Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.

Jesus said it is possible to go to a prison where payment will be required. Of course this is not talking about a payment of literal coins, but rather this is talking about serving time completely, serving a punishment completely, and Jesus concludes here it is possible to get out of prison.

Peter speaks about prison yet again, saying that Jesus went to prison and spoke to the souls there. Is it possible that Peter is saying that Jesus went the place where Judas was, possibly a prison of some kind?

1 Peter 3:18-19 KJV
18For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 19By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

 

[Gardenias]

Judas committed suicide bc of the wrong he had done for his sin of greed.

He did not go to a physical prison but became a prisoner of hell destined to the lake of fire!

 

[Runningman]

Judas committed suicide bc of the wrong he had done for his sin of greed.

He did not go to a physical prison but became a prisoner of hell destined to the lake of fire!

Hell and the lake of fire is the place of the general population. Judas went to “his own place” not “someone else’s place” or “their place.” That’s what I am trying to point out here. I think every detail matters. Or am I overthinking this?

 

[pottersclay]

Jesus said something very intresting in that a person knowing the truth yet disreguarding it shall recieve twice as many stripes.
Dont know vrs. Or exact wording...new tablet not set up yet.
Judas was known as the son of perdition. It leads me to believe there is a special place for him.

 

[Runningman]

Jesus said something very intresting in that a person knowing the truth yet disreguarding it shall recieve twice as many stripes.
Dont know vrs. Or exact wording...new tablet not set up yet.
Judas was known as the son of perdition. It leads me to believe there is a special place for him.

Did Judas have a special place for what he did? It seems like what Judas did was prophesied long ago, making Judas but a pawn.

John 17:12 KJV
12While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

So Judas fulfilled scripture:

Psalm 41:9 KJV
9Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.

Psalm 109:8 KJV
8Let his days be few; and let another take his office.

(side note: The person who took the office of Judas was Matthias in Acts 1)

So what does son of perdition mean to you?

 

[Magenta]

So what does son of perdition mean to you?

Some believe Judas was saved, though I am not among them.
Son of perdition means one who is doomed to destruction,
so Jesus Himself said Judas was doomed to destruction.
Does not sound saved to me at all

 

[JaumeJ]

Some believe Judas was saved, though I am not among them.
Son of perdition means one who is doomed to destruction,
so Jesus Himself said Judas was doomed to destruction.
Does not sound saved to me at all

I believe it would help those who do not understand this term to do just a minor search of the word, perdition.

In French, perdre is to lose.
In Spanish perder is also do lose.

These all come from the Latin root, in English, French and Spanish, so it seems whatever is assigned to perdition is lost. Also, it is foretold in the Psalms, 109 if I recall.

 

[peldom10]

Judas committed suicide bc of the wrong he had done for his sin of greed.

He did not go to a physical prison but became a prisoner of hell destined to the lake of fire!

Please show scripture that he ...."became a prisoner of hell destined to the lake of fire"?

 

[JaumeJ]

I believe it would help those who do not understand this term to do just a minor search of the word, perdition.

In French, perdre is to lose.
In Spanish perder is also do lose.

These all come from the Latin root, in English, French and Spanish, so it seems whatever is assigned to perdition is lost. Also, it is foretold in the Psalms, 109 if I recall.

Anyone who is lost will be separated from our Maker forever. If this is not being a prisoner of the highest meaning, then I am afraid the understanding is lost

 

[Gideon300]

Praying with the apostles, Peter in Acts 1 said that Judas went to "his own place."

Acts 1:25 KJV
25That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.

Of course this is talking about where Judas went in the afterlife. To me this is saying that Judas went to a place that is for him especially and not particularly meant for anyone else, somewhere like a prison cell for example. That is not without precedent as Jesus mentioned this elsewhere.

Matthew 5:25-26 KJV
25Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. 26Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.

Jesus said it is possible to go to a prison where payment will be required. Of course this is not talking about a payment of literal coins, but rather this is talking about serving time completely, serving a punishment completely, and Jesus concludes here it is possible to get out of prison.

Peter speaks about prison yet again, saying that Jesus went to prison and spoke to the souls there. Is it possible that Peter is saying that Jesus went the place where Judas was, possibly a prison of some kind?

1 Peter 3:18-19 KJV
18For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 19By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

No. Judas had heard the gospel over and over in this life. Why would Lord Jesus speak to him again? His "own place" was destruction.

 

[Aerials1978]

Some believe Judas was saved, though I am not among them.
Son of perdition means one who is doomed to destruction,
so Jesus Himself said Judas was doomed to destruction.
Does not sound saved to me at all

That’s news to me. What basis did they say indicated Judas was saved? From the texts we have Jesus pretty much said he was sealed for destruction.

 

[Magenta]

That’s news to me. What basis did they say indicated Judas was saved? From
the texts we have Jesus pretty much said he was sealed for destruction.

Yes, people say and believe all manner of things, don't they? Despite the weight of Scripture, and Jesus' own words, that stand against such, for instance, Jesus calling Judas a devil and saying he was unclean. It seems to have been a while since the topic came up, but if I remember correctly, the main thrust of their argument was that Judas committing suicide was proof of his repentance. Whereas now I would say that was worldly sorrow, not Godly. (Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death.) To this they would add the sheer fact that Judas had been chosen and sent out by Jesus with the other disciples. If you wish to look into it further, you could do a word search of my post stream for "perdition," as conversations with that word are almost always about this very issue, since the phrase "son of perdition" is used only twice in the NT, one of the two being in direct relation to Judas.

 

[pottersclay]

Did Judas have a special place for what he did? It seems like what Judas did was prophesied long ago, making Judas but a pawn.

John 17:12 KJV
12While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.

So Judas fulfilled scripture:

Psalm 41:9 KJV
9Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me.

Psalm 109:8 KJV
8Let his days be few; and let another take his office.

(side note: The person who took the office of Judas was Matthias in Acts 1)

So what does son of perdition mean to you?

I believe he was and is part of the unholy trinity to come.
Satan uses counterfeit to appear as it is of God but is not.
Judas made merchandise of jesus and his followers. Judas did preach and heal according to the sending out.
I think his ambition was to take over the ministry among other things.
The greeting of the kiss is still done today among the jews to give respect to there rabbi, but judas as we know used it to identify the Christ for incarceration.
There is much to gleen in these scriptures as we see the betrayal came from with in and not outside the choosen.
Today we have a counterfeit gospel, counterfeit preaching, counterfeit healings, making merchandise of the church.
As we know the scriptures show that the powers of God cannot be purchased.

 

[Gardenias]

Anyone who is lost will be separated from our Maker forever. If this is not being a prisoner of the highest meaning, then I am afraid the understanding is lost

I agree.
If the devil's rebellion earned him a PLACE in the LOF....... What he did was treason and revolt.

I myself think Judas will be placed along side of him! He betrayed Jesus for JUST THIRTY PIECES OF SILVER!

 

[Pilgrimshope]

I agree.
If the devil's rebellion earned him a PLACE in the LOF....... What he did was treason and revolt.

I myself think Judas will be placed along side of him! He betrayed Jesus for JUST THIRTY PIECES OF SILVER!

terrible huh he was priced as an oxen

“If the ox shall push a manservant or a maidservant; he shall give unto their master thirty shekels of silver, and the ox shall be stoned.”
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭21:32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

But it was fulfillment of prophecy

“And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.

And the Lord said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the Lord.”
‭‭Zechariah‬ ‭11:12-13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And supper being ended, the devil having now put into the heart of Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, to betray him;”
‭‭John‬ ‭13:2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that.

And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself. And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, It is not lawful for to put them into the treasury, because it is the price of blood. And they took counsel, and bought with them the potter's field, to bury strangers in.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭27:3-7‬ ‭