Who Justifieth the Ungodly

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OIC1965 said:
Read Romans 7-8 carefully. When did we die/were set free from the Law?
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Read Gal 3:13 carefully. How were they redeemed from the curse of the Law ? In Rom 7:4 how did they become dead to the law ?

4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
 
brightfame52 said:
Read Gal 3:13 carefully. How were they redeemed from the curse of the Law ? In Rom 7:4 how did they become dead to the law ?

4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
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So you answer questions with questions?
 
brightfame52 said:
You dont understand those verses the way I do, so no need for me to explain them to you, you already have issues with plain statements like Gal 3:13
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I answered all of your questions, and you answered none of mine. You answer questions with more questions. You want me to answer your questions but you don’t want to answer mine. What does that make you?
 
brightfame52 said:
You dont understand those verses the way I do, so no need for me to explain them to you, you already have issues with plain statements like Gal 3:13
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You won’t answer because you don’t like the answer those scriptures I ask you about give.
 
brightfame52 said:
Why are all for whom Christ died Justified before God prior to their believing the Gospel ?
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:rolleyes: read your Bible!!!

Romans 4:

20 He [Abraham] staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;

21 And being fully persuaded that, what he [God] had promised, he [God] was able also to perform.

22 And therefore it [Abraham's faith] was imputed to him for righteousness.

23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it [righteousness] was imputed to him;

24 But for us also, to whom it [righteousness] shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ

vs 24 - righteousness is imputed when a person believes on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead ... not before.

vs 1 - therefore being justified by faith ... the text does not read "therefore being justified before faith".




brightfame52 said:
This applies to everyone Christ died for, without them doing or believing a thing.
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John 3:

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
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brightfame52 said:
Read Gal 3:13 carefully. How were they redeemed from the curse of the Law ? In Rom 7:4 how did they become dead to the law ?

4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
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How did they become dead to the Law? Before faith came, we were shut up under the law…”. Galatians 3:23

The Law was our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ. Galatians 3:24

After faith has come we are no longer under a schoolmaster. Galatians 3:25

Whose faith?

For you are all chldren of God through faith in Jesus Christ. Galatians 3:26
 
brightfame52 said:
Read Gal 3:13 carefully. How were they redeemed from the curse of the Law ? In Rom 7:4 how did they become dead to the law ?

4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
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Notice the words (are become dead to the Law). When did we become dead to the Law?

A. When we were in the flesh, the motions of sin which WERE BY THE LAW…”. Romans 7:6

B. I was alive without the Law one, THEN THE COMMANDMENT CAME , SIN REVIVED AND I DIED. Romans 7:9

C. The Law of the Spirit of life has made me free from the law of sin and death. Romans 8:2

The Law was our schoolmaster to bring us to Christ. Galatians 3:24
 
reneweddaybyday said:
Galatians 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
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Okay, I have no problem with that verse, however I dont know if you understand it. It doesnt contradict anything I stated with scripture.
 
reneweddaybyday said:
:rolleyes: read your Bible!!!

Romans 4:

20 He [Abraham] staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;

21 And being fully persuaded that, what he [God] had promised, he [God] was able also to perform.

22 And therefore it [Abraham's faith] was imputed to him for righteousness.

23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it [righteousness] was imputed to him;

24 But for us also, to whom it [righteousness] shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ

vs 24 - righteousness is imputed when a person believes on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead ... not before.

vs 1 - therefore being justified by faith ... the text does not read "therefore being justified before faith".





John 3:

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
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Whats your point ? Because you havent made one.
 
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