Russia preparing for war

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ZNP

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JAPOV said:
Blah, Blah, Blah... You're not taking what Babylon has always been, and the God given tribulation time line into account.

What's going to be left of America after the rapture? Even if there is anything left, it won't be any threat to Rome and the antichrist...

Why do you want so much for America to be evil?
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I simply want to know what the Bible is talking about. I used to subscribe to the Great Babylon being in Rome but have since seen some very compelling teaching that it is the US and I cannot deny that many of the verses very clearly can refer to the US and no one else.
 
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I simply want to know what the Bible is talking about. I used to subscribe to the Great Babylon being in Rome but have since seen some very compelling teaching that it is the US and I cannot deny that many of the .
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The problem with prophecy is, we can't see the future like God can lol...
"verses very clearly can refer to the US and no one else"""
Really? You got a time machine? :geek:
 
shittim

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Jesus told us of this time that Holy Spirit will guide in all truth. It may be even that just as the devil always has his own minion that he would raise up to be antichrist, there may be countries as well, ccp and ussr both relied on abortion as a main form of birth control whereas in the U. S. I believe the numbers are down.
 
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JAPOV said:
The problem with prophecy is, we can't see the future like God can lol...
"verses very clearly can refer to the US and no one else"""
Really? You got a time machine? :geek:
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Yes, the prophecy in Psalms is a time machine. Try looking into "The Prophecy in Psalms" and into what Pastor Sandy is teaching S4C Community

God tells us the end from the beginning. Telling us the future is the proof that He is God and there is no other.
 
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Yes, the prophecy in Psalms is a time machine. Try looking into "The Prophecy in Psalms" and into what Pastor Sandy is teaching S4C Community

God tells us the end from the beginning. Telling us the future is the proof that He is God and there is no other.
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Yes. Prophecy is most definitely the proof of God's word, but only in retrospect. Don't forget, there's a very good reason why Biblical prophecy is always so intentionally vague.
 
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Yes. Prophecy is most definitely the proof of God's word, but only in retrospect. Don't forget, there's a very good reason why Biblical prophecy is always so intentionally vague.
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Daniel laid out to the year and day when Jesus would ride into Jerusalem on a donkey. Jesus rebuked the Jews because they didn't know the day of their redemption. Don't buy into this lame excuse that we don't really know what the prophecies say. In Amos God says He doesn't do anything without letting His prophets know.

I have been following this very closely for the last year. You could say my blog is a journal keeping track of everything coming out, I have been keeping it for a year this week and I have averaged 10 posts per day.

I have come to the conclusion that there will be believers on Earth that know when the Tribulation will begin prior to that day, and there will even be those who know when the rapture will be prior to that day. It is a puzzle, everyday believers around the globe find more pieces to this puzzle. It is quite impressive all the puzzle pieces we have found in the last 7 years.

Right now the consensus among these "watchmen" is that the tribulation begins on the Feast of Trumpets. As for the rapture there are tantalizing clues from the Bible that this takes place six months before the tribulation.
 
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We are required to lean on Him in relationship, not merely know about Him from what some church tells us. Perhaps He knew we would not seek Him if we relied on the writing, already that seems to be a main problem with outward form believers.
 
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Postulate and theorize all you want, but the Bible clearly states that you will know when the time is near, but not even Jesus knows the day or hour.

You think you know more than Jesus? Good luck with that!
 
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JAPOV said:
Postulate and theorize all you want, but the Bible clearly states that you will know when the time is near, but not even Jesus knows the day or hour.

You think you know more than Jesus? Good luck with that!
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You are misquoting the verse, it was past tense not future tense. There is no verse anywhere that says Jesus won't know the day or the hour, only that at that time only the father knew.

If you understand the picture of the Jewish wedding that is precisely according to that picture. Now it may be that the son and his friends don't know months ahead but obviously the Father must have given them the word so that they could gather together and then go blowing the horns to announce the coming of the bridegroom.
 
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Biden is hoping that economic sanctions will impede Russia. I think he wants to avoid world war 3. I hope it doesn't escalate that far
 
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Biden is hoping that economic sanctions will impede Russia. I think he wants to avoid world war 3. I hope it doesn't escalate that far
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I don't believe Putin is as powerful as everyone thinks. Russia is full of old aristocracy, old money... Putin is just their puppet. Those that TRULY own Russia will cut Putin off before things get too embarrassing... That may explain a lot about the way Putin is acting :unsure:
 
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JAPOV said:
Postulate and theorize all you want, but the Bible clearly states that you will know when the time is near, but not even Jesus knows the day or hour.

You think you know more than Jesus? Good luck with that!
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Not postulating or theorizing, neither acting obtuse as you just did in #648
 
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I doubt Biden has any hopes other than lining his own pocket and not messing himself.:unsure:
 
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I doubt Biden has any hopes other than lining his own pocket and not messing himself.:unsure:
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I don't know I really don't think Russia wants any smoke if it really comes down to a full scale war
We will have britain, france, Germany and possibly even China on our side.
We would rip Russia a proverbial new one if it came to it
 
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I don't believe Putin is as powerful as everyone thinks. Russia is full of old aristocracy, old money... Putin is just their puppet. Those that TRULY own Russia will cut Putin off before things get too embarrassing... That may explain a lot about the way Putin is acting :unsure:
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We get the impression from reports it isn't the result he was expecting, there is a long memory among Ukrainians about Moscow,:unsure:
 
ZNP

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Well so much for keeping yourself safe in a bunker

 
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ZNP said:
I see the fall of Babylon as referring to the US, it is simple to prove. So the key thing is that the fall of Babylon -- the US, takes place in a single hour. That would have been completely impossible at the time of the apostle John but very believable today.

The good news is that the last seven years of this age is very well documented with a precise timetable. There are several people on line who have done a wonderful job with this. Prophecy Club sees himself as having special insight into this timeline even though I don't fully agree with what he shares I do respect the extensive work he has done in this area. DTBM is the guy who seems to be the real expert on the history in the Bible, I love all his messages.

That said the timeline in the book of Revelation is not my interest. I'm much more focused on making the first rapture which takes place prior to the start of the tribulation, maybe even six months before.

What is most important -- I think the tribulation has a very high probability of starting this September. There are extensive prophecies in the Bible which point to this. The best people to listen to for this are S4C Global Community (Pastor Sandy) and Dr. Barry Awe.

There are also amazing prophecies in the book of Psalms that point to the first rapture taking place this month. Granted, people have been very excited ever since the Revelation 12 sign in 2017, so there have been many who have been wrong again and again with their guesses. That said all of the prophecies, types, shadows they have dug out of the word all fall apart starting mid April.

So then where are we right now? Many think and teach that Ezekiel 38 takes place prior to the tribulation. Israel burns the fuel from the wreckage and buries the dead for seven years, so sounds like Ezekiel 38 is God providing for Israel before the tribulation. Also, this miraculous victory sets the stage for the Antichrist to confirm the covenant which is the official start of the 7 years.

So then I see this current invasion of Ukraine growing. Russia has no choice after Biden debanked him. The best way to respond to this debanking is for Putin to take over the Mid East. To do that he must ally himself with Islamic nations -- this is the Gog/Magog army that Ezekiel 38 talks about. So then buckle up, this battle in Ukraine is not about to end, it is about to blow up into a massive world war.

One of the prophecies from Psalms says that this year (ending April 2nd with the start of the Jewish new year) is "The ultimate speaking of the Lord" and what He is saying is that these world leaders are fools not knowing what is coming. This is the beginning of the End for them.

Putin is not a good guy, the Lord is gathering him to Israel for destruction.
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Thanks,,, so as for Gog/Magog you see this as appertaining to Ezekiel and then also from your post #639 where you quoted Revelation 17 you are seeing the current events as the fulfillment of both Ezekiel and Revelation 17? If so in Revelation 16 who do you see as the three foul spirits?
 
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