O
Oblio
Guest
He has shown me what is good...so I try to act justly, love mercy, and walk humbly, all the days of my life.
We the new chosen people, are Jews no longer chosen people?
- Thread starter Blik
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Gen 18:19 For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of the LORD, to do justice and judgment; that the LORD may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him.
Gen 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;
Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
Lev 26:40 If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me;
Lev 26:41 And that I also have walked contrary unto them, and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if then their uncircumcised hearts be humbled, and they then accept of the punishment of their iniquity:
Lev 26:42 Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land.
Deu 7:12 Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the LORD thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant and the mercy which he sware unto thy fathers:
In re-reading i see i did not put it in question form i asked for and explanation so will you give your explanation of those verses ? That is a question.
_____________
I will do my best.
these verses are saying God has a condition He expects the children of Isreal to do, THat condition is still today, yet they can be judged and be restored. The blessing swore to Abraham must be kept if not you will be judged yet children who are judged do still remain, children, of God just as the Prodigal was still and son but dead. Today there is an angry older brother who is bothered by the killing of the fatted calf for the prodigal son.
Sorry just saw this. The cross unified both Jew and Gentile. So that we could be one people.
More Scripturally Contextually Explained:
Eph 2:13 "But now In Christ Jesus ye who sometimes
were far off are made nigh by The BLOOD Of Christ.
Eph 2:14 For He Is our Peace, Who Hath Made Both ONE, and
Hath Broken Down the middle wall of partition between us;
Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even
the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for To
Make In Himself of twain ONE New man, So Making Peace;
Eph 2:16 And that He Might Reconcile both unto God In
ONE Body By The CROSS, Having Slain the enmity thereby:
Eph 2:17 And came and preached peace to you
which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
Eph 2:18 For Through Him we both Have Access
By ONE Spirit Unto The Father."
-----------------------------------------
Note: This Is By GRACE, And when This Dispensation Is ENDED
At Great GRACE Departure Of {The Heavenly} Body Of CHRIST,
According To The Revelation Of The MYSTERY, Then:
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That DIFFER!” {online}:
God Will Resume HIS Prophetic program with
{earthly} ISRAEL, His "chosen." Amen?
---------------------------
GRACE And Peace...
Only Jews who believe in Jesus are part of the vine.
O
Oblio
Guest
Jesus says in John 8: 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
J
joecoten
Guest
Not having read the 630+ posts before, forgive me if this passage has been used already...
(Jer 31:35) Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
(Jer 31:36) If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
(Jer 31:37) Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.
(Jer 31:35) Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
(Jer 31:36) If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
(Jer 31:37) Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.
J
joecoten
Guest
"Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah - Jeremiah 31:31
" 18 “When your people ask you, ‘Won’t you tell us what you mean by this?’ 19 say to them, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am going to take the stick of Joseph—which is in Ephraim’s hand—and of the Israelite tribes associated with him, and join it to Judah’s stick. I will make them into a single stick of wood, and they will become one in my hand.’ 20 Hold before their eyes the sticks you have written on 21 and say to them, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will take the Israelites out of the nations where they have gone. I will gather them from all around and bring them back into their own land. 22 I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel. There will be one king over all of them and they will never again be two nations or be divided into two kingdoms." - Ezekiel 37:15-22
" 18 “When your people ask you, ‘Won’t you tell us what you mean by this?’ 19 say to them, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am going to take the stick of Joseph—which is in Ephraim’s hand—and of the Israelite tribes associated with him, and join it to Judah’s stick. I will make them into a single stick of wood, and they will become one in my hand.’ 20 Hold before their eyes the sticks you have written on 21 and say to them, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will take the Israelites out of the nations where they have gone. I will gather them from all around and bring them back into their own land. 22 I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel. There will be one king over all of them and they will never again be two nations or be divided into two kingdoms." - Ezekiel 37:15-22
From what I've learned, israelis will reign with Christ in the Lord's land for those 1000 years you've read about in Revelation.
I have no problem excepting them as being chosen or set apart. They earn it.
Maybe someday you will learn what I've learned then you will understand.
I have no problem excepting them as being chosen or set apart. They earn it.
Maybe someday you will learn what I've learned then you will understand.
J
joecoten
Guest
Do you have any Christian scripture you would like to make your case from?
Earned it?
Does the content of your learning come from scripture or what people have told you?
I dont go for replacement theology. God has a people, He has had a people from the beginning. Before Abraham He had a people . As we today, us believers, are saints so were the folks of old. From Adam , Noah, Job fits some place , Samson, Ruth, Deborah, Moses, Joseph, The Levites , Rahab, David John the Baptist Paul Peter on and on, we are all part of the family of God . I dont see a them and or us . We are all one in Christ.
Gal_3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Col_3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
Gal_3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Col_3:11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
J
joecoten
Guest
Galatians refers to being justified by faith verses works. It is not saying that God doesn't have a special plan for the Jews. The 12 tribes spoke about in Revelation says He does.
The Lord speaks of a time when Judah and Ephraim will be made one in the new covenant. Jeremiah 31:31.
He speaks of a time when He will make the 2 sticks, or houses, of Israel one. Ezekiel 37
If you want to negate what He said in the O.T., that's your business. If you want to say that He didn't really mean 12 literal tribes, biological descendants of Jacob/Israel, that's your business.
For me, I am glad to be part of the commonwealth of Israel.
The Lord speaks of a time when Judah and Ephraim will be made one in the new covenant. Jeremiah 31:31.
He speaks of a time when He will make the 2 sticks, or houses, of Israel one. Ezekiel 37
If you want to negate what He said in the O.T., that's your business. If you want to say that He didn't really mean 12 literal tribes, biological descendants of Jacob/Israel, that's your business.
For me, I am glad to be part of the commonwealth of Israel.