Russia preparing for war

[Aidan1]

It was Biden who approved the pipeline from Russia that made your country pro Russian. That is not "my view" it is simply the fact. It was Zelensky today that said he wanted to be part of NATO, that is not my "view" that is a fact.

You get to have your own opinions, you don't get to have your own facts.

The present goverment, mainly the SPD is since decades pro russia and this has nothing to do with Biden and the pipeline, the former Kanzler Schröder (SPD) is a friend from Putin and in the leadership of Gazprom.
Zelensky said he want to be a part of the EU, this is not the same as to be in the NATO.
BTW, if you have a souveran state, is it right then to choice by your own which connection you will have and which not? Would you agree if another state tell the USA what to do or not to do? I suppose you would not agree.
From the Western side it was never a theme to take the Ukraine into the NATO. So far i know.
If you call me to suffer under TDS, maby you have a DDS Problem? Joke

 

[ZNP]

The present goverment, mainly the SPD is since decades pro russia and this has nothing to do with Biden and the pipeline, the former Kanzler Schröder (SPD) is a friend from Putin and in the leadership of Gazprom.
Zelensky said he want to be a part of the EU, this is not the same as to be in the NATO.
BTW, if you have a souveran state, is it right then to choice by your own which connection you will have and which not? Would you agree if another state tell the USA what to do or not to do? I suppose you would not agree.
From the Western side it was never a theme to take the Ukraine into the NATO. So far i know.
If you call me to suffer under TDS, maby you have a DDS Problem? Joke

My position has been consistent and clear, I think this is a European issue and a NATO issue. If Germany is allied to Russia then that is very significant and people need to stop calling on the US to go and fight in Ukraine.

 

[iamsoandso]

I understand that it looks like Russia is pathetic, but I don't think they really are. I think they underestimated what it would take to take over Ukraine, but I still think they can do it. Putin's motives are definitely questionable considering that the sections of Ukraine that do have groups wanting to be Russian are not where he's invading. He claimed he was going to help them peacefully. So that's completely false based on his actions. Anyhow, i know that right now it looks like the Ukraine will defend themselves, but I'm still worried that Putin is not going to go back to Russia with his tail between his legs and will make an example out of Ukraine. Maybe I'm wrong, though. Maybe Russia doesn't have anything more powerful than what they've sent so far to Ukraine. I'm just worried. If it's the end of the world, come, Lord Jesus, come! But if it's not then I don't want nukes used anywhere. Didn't you guys have to read about Hiroshima and Nagasaki? The effects of those bombs were disgusting. I don't want that for anyone.

Yep I agree at the moment Belarus a third country has entered the invasion along with Russia and are from 40-17 miles from Kyev and so eventually the numbers will overcome Kyev if he keeps sending them https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-news-02-28-22/index.html

 

[wintersrain]

At the time the haters didnt care who it was that ran against Trump , its only now that they are waking up to see the clueless leader they really have.

Doesn't matter... If not for TDS, they'd have no identity at all!

Agreed.
If he runs in 2024 and wins maybe it means he figured out how to work the next steal to America's advantage. Wouldn't that be a hoot?

 

[Aidan1]

My position has been consistent and clear, I think this is a European issue and a NATO issue. If Germany is allied to Russia then that is very significant and people need to stop calling on the US to go and fight in Ukraine.

First of all, germany is not allied to russia and never was.
Second USA is part of the NATO.
3rd who said the US or the NATO should fight in the Ukraine?
I am not shure you realy read my posts.

 

[ZNP]

First of all, germany is not allied to russia and never was.
Second USA is part of the NATO.
3rd who said the US or the NATO should fight in the Ukraine?
I am not shure you realy read my posts.

I never said you said it. Listen to the news, any mainstream media news. Hillary Clinton and Mitt Romney both said that you are virtually traitorous if you say Putin is smart.

Can you imagine? If you are a traitor for saying Putin is smart then what does that make the Ukraine?

 

[iamsoandso]

Pure propaganda. Everyone knows it is extremely difficult to take a city and if you don't want horrific civilian casualties it is impossible. However, you can starve a city out no problem. Cut off the trucks and in two weeks they will be starving. Cut off the power and the lack of water will become a major crisis in two to three days. The question is not how tough Ukrainians are after 3 days but after 3 weeks.

Also it is a lame comparison to bring in the Blitz and London, these soldiers are on the outskirts with guns and mortars. Also they control the skies.

https://www.airforcemag.com/pentago...sian-momentum-slows-but-kyiv-siege-continues/ I saw this yesterday(it may have changed though). I was wondering about the air defense part myself did you see something somewhere? I suppose though eventually it is inevitable the Ukrainians being able to contest the air will dwindle down to just drones(many of the vehicles were attacked by drones by Ukraine)...Anyway just wondering if you've seen something more current.

 

[Magenta]

I never said you said it. Listen to the news, any mainstream media news. Hillary Clinton
and Mitt Romney both said that you are virtually traitorous if you say Putin is smart.

Huh! Imagine that. Kinda similar to saying someone suffers TDS if they say negative things about Trump.

 

[ZNP]

https://www.airforcemag.com/pentago...sian-momentum-slows-but-kyiv-siege-continues/ I saw this yesterday(it may have changed though). I was wondering about the air defense part myself did you see something somewhere? I suppose though eventually it is inevitable the Ukrainians being able to contest the air will dwindle down to just drones(many of the vehicles were attacked by drones by Ukraine)...Anyway just wondering if you've seen something more current.

I have seen reports that Ukraine's air defense is based on ground based radar and Russia has already destroyed their ground based radar so Ukraine air force is flying blind. This gives Russia a huge advantage but Ukraine does still have planes in the sky. Russia has already seized Ukraine's navy as well.

I also heard that the vast majority of the javelin missiles were not charged and cannot be fired.

I have also heard that millions have already fled from Ukraine. If you empty out the women and children you can go ahead and blast your way through the cities. All you have to do is knock out the power and they will run out of water and food in a week.

 

[wintersrain]

Stalin had no intention of invading Germany. He could not defend Russia itself at first. His army lacked leaders because Stalin murdered or exiled most of them. His planes were obsolete. His army was poorly trained. They could not even defeat Finland. If he'd tried to invade Germany, he would have been defeated totally. And he knew it.

Or, Stalin was intelligent enough to realize you don't attack a pack of wolves in their own territory.
Hitler's operation Barbarossa failed because Hitler's armies thought to enter Russia and attack and have Stalin and the Russian people and remaining army capitulate to Nazi occupation and victory.

Stalin knew his limits. He also knew the psycho he was dealing with. He played it beautifully.

 

[wintersrain]

I never said you said it. Listen to the news, any mainstream media news. Hillary Clinton and Mitt Romney both said that you are virtually traitorous if you say Putin is smart.

Can you imagine? If you are a traitor for saying Putin is smart then what does that make the Ukraine?

Do you have a link to those particular Clinton and Romney remarks still?

 

[ZNP]

Or, Stalin was intelligent enough to realize you don't attack a pack of wolves in their own territory.
Hitler's operation Barbarossa failed because Hitler's armies thought to enter Russia and attack and have Stalin and the Russian people and remaining army capitulate to Nazi occupation and victory.

Stalin knew his limits. He also knew the psycho he was dealing with. He played it beautifully.

The psycho was simply a puppet on a string. The purpose for raising up Hitler by Rothschild and the bankers was to protect Europe from Communism. Once Germany attacked Britain the bankers decided that was enough and they turned him to go against Russia. It was the stupidest and most moronic move in military history unless you are the bankers. They raise up Germany to lay waste to Europe (don't worry they make money loaning money for the war and they make money loaning money to rebuild) then they destroy this pack of hyenas by sending them into Russia to lay waste to Russia and then freeze to death.

 

[ZNP]

Do you have a link to those particular Clinton and Romney remarks still?

https://rumble.com/vw188j-mitt-romney-slams-mtg-paul-gosar-over-white-nationalist-event.html

About 40 seconds in

 

[iamsoandso]

I have seen reports that Ukraine's air defense is based on ground based radar and Russia has already destroyed their ground based radar so Ukraine air force is flying blind. This gives Russia a huge advantage but Ukraine does still have planes in the sky. Russia has already seized Ukraine's navy as well.

I also heard that the vast majority of the javelin missiles were not charged and cannot be fired.

I have also heard that millions have already fled from Ukraine. If you empty out the women and children you can go ahead and blast your way through the cities. All you have to do is knock out the power and they will run out of water and food in a week.

hmm well I guess E-government may help as long as everyone can charge their phones I saw that E.Musk turned a star-link around lit up the Ukraine(free to all Ukraine) https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/27/business/starlink-activated-ukraine/index.html

 

[wintersrain]

At the time the haters didnt care who it was that ran against Trump , its only now that they are waking up to see the clueless leader they really have.

I wouldn't credit all to becoming conscious just yet.

TDS is an interesting smear because it speaks of and to those who were incapable of accepting a Republican was voted into the White House over an unfit woman who would have been an extension of the Obama agenda had she won.
All the good Trump did and that was ignored just to sling slurs because they hated that HRC didn't gain victory in order to further destroy America.

Particularly shocking is when the TDS condition was suffered by Christians. They preferred HRC! Which is absolutely the case when it appears America is a two party system and voters had a choice between Donald J. Trump and HRC, and DJT won the votes.

HRC is all for late term abortions. Even at the time the baby is being born! As is Joe! While Trump is pro-life.
Bill Clinton sexually offended women during his term in office, even as governor of Arkansas. When all this hit the press HRC called the women bringing the charges against him all manner of filthy names.
When she was running for highest office herself she changed her tune to coincide with the contrived sexual assault (lies) smear campaign she'd orchestrated against Trump. Claiming abused women should be heard and respected.
HRC has a history of selling out America and offices of authority, and seats in those offices, when she was running for president especially. All so she could obtain more monies for her presidential campaign.

Trump didn't need the money to run for office. But his supporters started a campaign website so supporters could show their support because that's tradition. And it didn't appear as if he was laying his own money out to take the office because that would have been assailed by his haters as an attempt to buy the office, no doubt.

After the election was over guess what? HRC kept the remaining balance in her campaign war chest. This is against the rules.
Rules are news to HRC.

When haters of Trump continue to condemn him after all the good he did while in office, and that was reversed as much as possible by Joe B. in less than 2 months after he took office, they are deranged! Because Trump is gone. The reality they're left with is the unfit mentally ill Democrat they think they voted into the office because they couldn't bear to have another four years of "the great orange", as some of the worst among them would call Trump.

It is a syndrome to hate a man who does good for a country. It's worse when they claim to know better than God and judge Trump to not be Christian because they can't understand what he meant when asked about faith and repentance.

Then they get all sensitive and play the victim after screeding against Trump for years as people identify their problem as a syndrome they need to get treatment for. If not by the simple act of growing the heck up and facing reality. It's 2022. Not 2019.

 

[wintersrain]

https://rumble.com/vw188j-mitt-romney-slams-mtg-paul-gosar-over-white-nationalist-event.html

About 40 seconds in

Thank you for posting the link.
Lord Mitt, shut up already!

 

[wintersrain]

Not even Putin's personal wealth is enough to rescue Russia's economy. Yes, the ordinary people suffer, but the economy will tank. Will Russians put up with a North Korea style economy, so bad that there is not enough to feed the people properly? North Koreans have never known prosperity. Russians have. Putin may yet rue the day that he went to war in Ukraine.

I don't foresee Russia going the route of NK. It's a wait and see at this point.
I've said before and I do believe that all the powers leading all nations in this world and even convened as the UN, are in on it together. Whatever happens, they're in on what strings are pulled, what economies bust, what nations go to war for whatever contrived "reason".

Take the U.S. for example.
During Trump's presidency we were introduced to the invention of new words for our English language. Lock down! (a term typical of prison culture not free countries), "Essential Worker", sounds like something straight out of 1984, or the history of the USSR.
"Stimulus checks". Loved that one. Boy did some people get paaaaid! Just to stay home, locked down. Threatened in some states by prosecution if they dared go outside for fresh air and sunshine.

Jobs that were allowed to open suffered horribly. Then when the lock was lifted those people use to getting paid not to work stayed out of work. And still obtained a tax free income. Then when those checks stopped guess what? No job to go back to. Served them right really.

Now? Oh, we've got inflation! A contrived system that's orchestrated by those with the power to do so. And it ain't the working class.
Now, all those monies people blew because it was "free", is spent. And goods and services have jumped in some areas of the country as much as 50 and 200%.
And along with that increase comes increase in taxation of goods and services. Especially gasoline and all petrochemical products. In winter! Can't wait for summer to be blazing hot and on the cusp of vacation season. Ukraine drama should be well underway and gas in America should be what? $6.00 per gallon for regular?

All that free money before under Trump, and for a little while under Joe Blow. And now, we're having to pay through the nose for food, clothing, transportation and shelter.

Free money?
No such thing in America.

A global syndicate! It isn't a conspiracy theory when that fact speaks for itself.
Biden is a billionaire. Putin is too. And so too is Kim J. Think about that one. His people in NK eat their dead babies that starved to death. Because they have no food. And if you possess a Bible and are found out in NK you'll never hunger again!

Because they kill you.

 

[ZNP]

https://gettr.com/post/pwhxwt02c5

Ukraine is not a democracy

 

[iamsoandso]

The psycho was simply a puppet on a string. The purpose for raising up Hitler by Rothschild and the bankers was to protect Europe from Communism. Once Germany attacked Britain the bankers decided that was enough and they turned him to go against Russia. It was the stupidest and most moronic move in military history unless you are the bankers. They raise up Germany to lay waste to Europe (don't worry they make money loaning money for the war and they make money loaning money to rebuild) then they destroy this pack of hyenas by sending them into Russia to lay waste to Russia and then freeze to death.

You have to read this but... and then several things came out in the Nuremberg trials but as it seems Hitler and Russia had agreed to attack Poland at the same time but Russia delayed their attack and made it look as to liberate them from Germany. After the war in the trials it came out that Russia's plan was to get Germany,France,England ect. to go to war to so that it weakened them and afterwards their plan was to invade all of Europe and rule it.

 

[wintersrain]

https://gettr.com/post/pwhxwt02c5

Ukraine is not a democracy

Ukraine is a Republic.