The Ukraine Thread

[Oblio]

No, they are pawns.

Sure, that works for me.

 

[JTB]

I'm just being a realist. The choice was to not admit the Ukraine to NATO, or start a war with Russia.

Lotta truth in that. Cursed if ya do and cursed if ya don't. And who's the master of curses.

 

[2ndRateMind]

No, they are pawns.

Kant was of the opinion that no human should be regarded as a means to an end, only as an end in themselves. While real-politik has it's place, I see that place as only within the context of Kant's categorical imperative maxim.

Best wishes, 2RM

 

[Oblio]

These things gotta come, I guess. I'm so glad I belong to Him!

 

[2ndRateMind]

They only have to come if one despairs of humanity. We Christians have faith, hope and love, and we should trust in these three graces. If we do, we find these things don't have to come, at all.

Best wishes, 2RM.

 

[JTB]

They only have to come if one despairs of humanity. We have faith, hope and charity, and we should trust in these three graces. If we do, we find these things don't have to come, at all.

Best wishes, 2RM.

How far does that go? Can we faith hope and charity our way out from under the antichrist?

 

[2ndRateMind]

Try it, and see. Be assured, you won't have gone wrong.

Best wishes, 2RM.

 

[Oblio]

"5For many will come in My name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. These things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places.…" - Matthew 24:5-7 Berean Study Bible

 

[Oblio]

President Joe Biden handed over top secret U.S. intelligence to China about Ukraine, which the Chinese Communist Party then relayed straight back to Russia, according to reports. - planet-today.com

 

[2ndRateMind]

Seems like you can't even trust your enemies, these days.

Best wishes, 2RM.

 

[Oblio]

Whatever...we all gotta die someday.

 

[2ndRateMind]

'To die, to sleep. To sleep, perchance to dream.
Aye, there's the rub, for in that sleep of death what dreams may come?'

Best wishes, 2RM.

 

[Oblio]

While in a coma at the hospital, I died. I later recalled being in a city that was like a park. It had a golden mist clinging to the ground.
I turned around and Jesus was less than 3 feet from me, looking me in the eye. I could feel His love for me. He was smiling at me.
I've been in pain, ill, and for the most part, alone for many years. Life is enduring it all. I long for the day it ends. And I'm not depressed.
I know where I'm going. I know what it feels like. This life is a mist...here and then gone.

 

[2ndRateMind]

This reminds me of the aphorism that we are not humans, having a spiritual experience, but spirits, having a human experience. I rather like this latter perspective.

Best wishes, 2RM.

 

[Oblio]

Our bodies are machines that we travel through this life in.
I am on the road...to my home...in the New Jerusalem.

 

[shittim]

While we are here, we will walk out His plan for our lives, doing His good will.

 

[2ndRateMind]

Fascinated. Richard Dawkins would go you so far, that our that our bodies are machines. The question is, is their ultimate aim purposelessness (the propagation of genes) or purposeful (the development of spiritual stature)?

Best wishes, 2RM

 

[shittim]

Said the misguided subject

 

[shittim]

Dawkins is another lost reprobate

 

[2ndRateMind]

Dawkins is another lost reprobate

I'm inclined to agree. Though I wouldn't phrase it that way. Credit whenever credit is due. I'm sure that Dawkins has forgotten far more about biology than I have ever learned.

Best wishes, 2RM