Which specific Scripture? And who, in the Church, is not "in God's service"?
Alcohol - a world wide phenomena
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People will argue day and night over their alcohol. Why is that?
Yes or no, would society be better off without alcohol?
Yes or no, would society be better off without alcohol?
He makes grass grow for the cattle, and plants for people to cultivate— bringing forth food from the earth:
wine that gladdens human hearts, oil to make their faces shine, and bread that sustains their hearts.
Go, eat your food with gladness, and drink your wine with a joyful heart, for God has already approved what you do.
Uses of alcohol in medicine, industry, and daily life (<= link
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People argue day and night over their KJV. Apply the same logic.
My answer, and yours, are opinions, and have no evidentiary value to the discussion.
I don't drink alcohol, so if offered a drink I would simply decline.
Others drinking in front of me is not a problem either.
The suggestion was not to lie about drinking, or whatever, but to abstain in
front of those who are weak in their faith so as to not cause a problem for them.
I work with many teenagers. One reason I do not drink is because if they were to ask me, I want to say no, I don’t drink. A “yes” could cause them to stumble. Alcohol has destroyed many of my family and friends. Not one good thing can come from it.
If not one good thing can come from it, why is it recommended under certain circumstances in Scripture?
To those who are sick to numb their illness. I guess if one is sick, then it can come in handy. We’ve got medicine today.
Alcohol is used medicinally still. In more ways than one...
God said Be sober. Because your adversary the devil goes about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour.
God said Drunkards will not inherit the kingdom of God. Drunkness is a sin.
Why do we think we can control fire and hold it next to our body and not be burned by it? Then make excuses for why we were burned knowing NOT to Play with Fire.
God said Drunkards will not inherit the kingdom of God. Drunkness is a sin.
Why do we think we can control fire and hold it next to our body and not be burned by it? Then make excuses for why we were burned knowing NOT to Play with Fire.
There is so much ridiculous black-and-white thinking with this subject.
Simply put, consumption of alcohol is not forbidden in Scripture. There is a line for everyone between acceptable and unacceptable levels of consumption (for some it is zero).
If you choose to abstain, fine, but stop promoting error, confusion, and corruption of the Scriptures by your ignorance and bias.
Simply put, consumption of alcohol is not forbidden in Scripture. There is a line for everyone between acceptable and unacceptable levels of consumption (for some it is zero).
If you choose to abstain, fine, but stop promoting error, confusion, and corruption of the Scriptures by your ignorance and bias.
And keep in mind also that while wine is "fruit of the vine" - either alcoholic or not - "strong drink" is actually referring to liquor.
I will say though that there is no better painkiller than alcohol. It doesn't deaden pain or sorrow per se - in fact sometimes it heightens them to the point that you can actually cry and that in itself is a relief - but it can make it so that you don't CARE that you are suffering, also a relief.
If you've never experienced a sorrow so deep that you have wished for death for a period of years, you probably won't understand what I'm talking about.
Three years of cancer treatment, tons of chemo, radiation, and three transplants…never wanted alcohol. That’s just me.
Beer is even mentioned in Scriptures
Mostly, but not always, in a negative way 
Proverbs 20:1
Wine is a mocker and beer a brawler; whoever is led astray by them is not wise.
Proverbs 31:4
It is not for kings, Lemuel— it is not for kings to drink wine, not for rulers to crave beer,
Proverbs 31:6
Let beer be for those who are perishing, wine for those who are in anguish!
Isaiah 24:9
No longer do they drink wine with a song; the beer is bitter to its drinkers.
Isaiah 28:7
And these also stagger from wine and reel from beer: Priests and prophets stagger from beer and are befuddled
with wine; they reel from beer, they stagger when seeing visions, they stumble when rendering decisions.
Isaiah 29:9
Be stunned and amazed, blind yourselves and be sightless;
be drunk, but not from wine, stagger, but not from beer.
Isaiah 56:12
“Come,” each one cries, “let me get wine! Let us drink our fill
of beer! And tomorrow will be like today, or even far better.”
Micah 2:11
If a liar and deceiver comes and says, ‘I will prophesy for you plenty
of wine and beer,’ that would be just the prophet for this people!
I think the following principle is wise. To avoid fornication, it is good not to touch a woman. To avoid drunkenness, don’t touch alcohol. Don’t play with fire.
1 Corinthians 7:
1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.
2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
Beer is even mentioned in Scriptures
Proverbs 20:1
Wine is a mocker and beer a brawler; whoever is led astray by them is not wise.
Proverbs 31:4
It is not for kings, Lemuel— it is not for kings to drink wine, not for rulers to crave beer,
Proverbs 31:6
Let beer be for those who are perishing, wine for those who are in anguish!
Isaiah 24:9
No longer do they drink wine with a song; the beer is bitter to its drinkers.
Isaiah 28:7
And these also stagger from wine and reel from beer: Priests and prophets stagger from beer and are befuddled
with wine; they reel from beer, they stagger when seeing visions, they stumble when rendering decisions.
Isaiah 29:9
Be stunned and amazed, blind yourselves and be sightless;
be drunk, but not from wine, stagger, but not from beer.
Isaiah 56:12
“Come,” each one cries, “let me get wine! Let us drink our fill
of beer! And tomorrow will be like today, or even far better.”
Micah 2:11
If a liar and deceiver comes and says, ‘I will prophesy for you plenty
of wine and beer,’ that would be just the prophet for this people!
Wine is a mocker. Why put something in your body that scripture, God calls a mocker?
Well, I didn't want alcohol either, honestly. Can't stand the taste. I just wanted the suffering to end.
Which it did eventually, thank God! And I don't drink these days. I had one drink in the last year, and that was a family medicinal remedy when I was sick.
If only people would consider the research from the scripture which was provided twice, instead of promoting non-scriptural anecdotal 'just-so' stories, then a real bible study could begin, but the devil does not like detailed and exact consideration of God's word, and must add his own commentary and take away from what God said every time.
Alcohol is indeed forbidden in scripture. I referred to several such texts in the research of the Bible.
Perhaps bible study, which was the point of this thread to begin with, can take place after all of the Babylonian "whine" has gone out of some men, and all are properly 'vented' from their 'leaven'.